On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:47:34 -0400, "Rick Raisley"
<heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>It just takes me and others a while to identify the names of those who are
>only here to disrupt and cause problems, and those who are here to help
>those with problems.[/color]

And just the other day I was thinking how sharing kill files was a good idea.
Then I remember how I kill filed every poster in one out of place obscene
message where everyone was trying to one up the other.

I wound up with about 15 of 250 posts..
But guess what, the stuff left was both informative, interesting, and didn't
need a machete to hack out the crap.
--
more pix @ [url]http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html[/url]

"Rick Raisley" <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net> wrote in message
news:OLoPVnqhHHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:hqjs23p6g0vvja72rrma48b3ovs53oddjj@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:31:03 -0400, "Mike Hall MVP"
>> <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Respect for others in here.. you care only that you get your insults
>> >in..[/color]
>>
>> Mike just can't stop pretending he somehow was put in charge. Get over
>> your Walter Mity dream kid and maybe consider growing up instead of
>> trying to be a net cop. In case you haven't figured it out by youself,
>> NOBODY respects a smartass trying to boss others around.
>>[/color]
>
> Nor does anyone respect someone simply trying to disrupt and prevent
> people
> from getting the help they are asking for. Yes, it's true, there is no
> "boss" here. That makes it all the more important IMHO that "normal
> people"
> express their feelings about such newsgroup abuse. If people don't state
> that your comments are unwelcome, how are you to know, right?
>[color=green]
>> Take a hint. THIS IS USENET. Anybody can say anything, anytime, for
>> any reason in any newsgroup, and they don't need your permission.
>>[/color]
>
> Unfortunate, but true. Just like the bullies and thugs on the wrong side
> of
> town, harassing good people, only like the gangs, they have come to invade
> the good neighborhoods as well. Anonymity allows anyone to do anything,
> usually things they would never think of doing (or be allowed to do) in
> real
> life.
>
> It just takes me and others a while to identify the names of those who are
> only here to disrupt and cause problems, and those who are here to help
> those with problems.
>
> I don't even mind that Umbutu or Linux or other OS's are mentioned, in
> their
> own threads, as alternatives for any that are so inclined; I do, however,
> resent valid threads being corrupted and interrupted, making it impossible
> for those needing help, and those willing to help, to communicate
> effectively.
>
> I'll ask again: How do I 'kill-file' a poster, so as not to see any of
> their
> posts? Can that be done in Outlook Express (and Windows Mail, for my home
> Vista machine), or is that only available in 3rd-party news readers?
> (Although I will admit that having done that, I'd have missed the very
> amusing "If Restaurants Functioned Like Microsoft" post. ;-)[/color]

Try Tools/Message Rules/News. Select the guy to delete.
[color=blue]
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Rick Raisley
>
>[/color]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:31:55 -0400, [email]keepout******.com.inva[/email]lid wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:47:34 -0400, "Rick Raisley"
><heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>It just takes me and others a while to identify the names of those who are
>>only here to disrupt and cause problems, and those who are here to help
>>those with problems.[/color]
>
>And just the other day I was thinking how sharing kill files was a good idea.
>Then I remember how I kill filed every poster in one out of place obscene
>message where everyone was trying to one up the other.
>
>I wound up with about 15 of 250 posts..
>But guess what, the stuff left was both informative, interesting, and didn't
>need a machete to hack out the crap.[/color]

People that need kill files and love to "plonk" people fall into the
same hopeless category as the morbidly obese. Here's a typical Vista
Beta Tester sitting at his computer:

[url]http://bextruthfinder.blogs.com/mental_equilibrium/images/big.jpg[/url]

Excessivly fat people can't stop shoveling food into their mouth,
while idiots that have some daily need to whine about people that
point out real flaws in Vista can't stop replying to posters that bug
them. The issue for both is the same. NO WILLPOWER None at all.

Blocking someone is easier than that. In Windows Mail, highlight the message
from the person you want to block and go to Message/Junk E-Mail / Add sender
to blocked sender list.

In Outlook Express, same way except the option is in Message / Block Sender.

Now, if we could just get people, who insist on replying to the trolls
messages, to refrain from quoting their entire message this would be an even
more pleasant experience.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Mellowed" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:JHuXh.10365$no.1359@trnddc02...[color=blue]
>
> "Rick Raisley" <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net> wrote in message
> news:OLoPVnqhHHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>> news:hqjs23p6g0vvja72rrma48b3ovs53oddjj@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:31:03 -0400, "Mike Hall MVP"
>>> <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Respect for others in here.. you care only that you get your insults
>>> >in..
>>>
>>> Mike just can't stop pretending he somehow was put in charge. Get over
>>> your Walter Mity dream kid and maybe consider growing up instead of
>>> trying to be a net cop. In case you haven't figured it out by youself,
>>> NOBODY respects a smartass trying to boss others around.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Nor does anyone respect someone simply trying to disrupt and prevent
>> people
>> from getting the help they are asking for. Yes, it's true, there is no
>> "boss" here. That makes it all the more important IMHO that "normal
>> people"
>> express their feelings about such newsgroup abuse. If people don't state
>> that your comments are unwelcome, how are you to know, right?
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Take a hint. THIS IS USENET. Anybody can say anything, anytime, for
>>> any reason in any newsgroup, and they don't need your permission.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Unfortunate, but true. Just like the bullies and thugs on the wrong side
>> of
>> town, harassing good people, only like the gangs, they have come to
>> invade
>> the good neighborhoods as well. Anonymity allows anyone to do anything,
>> usually things they would never think of doing (or be allowed to do) in
>> real
>> life.
>>
>> It just takes me and others a while to identify the names of those who
>> are
>> only here to disrupt and cause problems, and those who are here to help
>> those with problems.
>>
>> I don't even mind that Umbutu or Linux or other OS's are mentioned, in
>> their
>> own threads, as alternatives for any that are so inclined; I do, however,
>> resent valid threads being corrupted and interrupted, making it
>> impossible
>> for those needing help, and those willing to help, to communicate
>> effectively.
>>
>> I'll ask again: How do I 'kill-file' a poster, so as not to see any of
>> their
>> posts? Can that be done in Outlook Express (and Windows Mail, for my home
>> Vista machine), or is that only available in 3rd-party news readers?
>> (Although I will admit that having done that, I'd have missed the very
>> amusing "If Restaurants Functioned Like Microsoft" post. ;-)[/color]
>
> Try Tools/Message Rules/News. Select the guy to delete.
>[color=green]
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rick Raisley
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

> I had to laugh at the 'xfile' claim that Linux users wanted to know about[color=blue]
> Vista too.. maybe some do[...][/color]

Which "xfile" are you referring to?



"Mike Hall MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23%230CX6lhHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Frank, the kill file grows ever larger.. unfortunately, many access this
> newsgroup through media where they are not able to erase the names of
> troublemakers and disruptors..
>
> The trolls don't seem to care about anybody but themselves.. a sad bunch
> at best.. I had to laugh at the 'xfile' claim that Linux users wanted to
> know about Vista too.. maybe some do, but they are certainly NOT the ones
> spewing out one insult after another..
>
> For now, they have driven one very good guy out of here.. I am assuming
> that they all feel really pleased with themselves, as they continue to
> keep the pressure up.. they are acting like jealous children, and appear
> intensely proud of the fact..
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:%236QrLkjhHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Stop tiptoeing around the FACT that MVPs"
>>> It is not a fact, merely your opinion.
>>> An opinion that is nearly worthless considering your need to insult.
>>>
>>> "You're a idiot"
>>> Apparently you are incapable of discussing without insults.
>>> You continue to prove my point.
>>> This shows your character and is a reflection of yourself.
>>> If you were secure in your views, you would not need to prop up your
>>> position with insults.
>>> Leave it to others with your view and the competence.
>>> They are around and have no need to prop up their own insecurity as you
>>> need.
>>>[/color]
>> Jupiter, this guy is totally mental. I laser flamed his ass real good
>> awhile ago and then kill filed him. I only see his ignorant, insulting
>> post when someone else replies to him.
>> He's a real sicko. He belittles and insults everyone, which means he's
>> really weak and insecure. He's like a person off their meds.
>> A real loser.
>> Frank[/color]
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]
>
>
>[/color]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:05:15 -0500, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
>On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:31:55 -0400, [email]keepout******.com.inva[/email]lid wrote:
>[color=green]
>>On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:47:34 -0400, "Rick Raisley"
>><heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>It just takes me and others a while to identify the names of those whoare
>>>only here to disrupt and cause problems, and those who are here to help
>>>those with problems.[/color]
>>
>>And just the other day I was thinking how sharing kill files was a goodidea.
>>Then I remember how I kill filed every poster in one out of place obscene
>>message where everyone was trying to one up the other.
>>
>>I wound up with about 15 of 250 posts..
>>But guess what, the stuff left was both informative, interesting, and didn't
>>need a machete to hack out the crap.[/color]
>
>People that need kill files and love to "plonk" people fall into the
>same hopeless category as the morbidly obese. Here's a typical Vista
>Beta Tester sitting at his computer:
>[/color]
You obviously haven't grasped the true value of the kill file. by dumpingthe
kiddy screaming at the top of their lungs with every other post, spamminga
group when you REMOVE that crap, you can actually see and not get distracted.
It's a fact of nature. Like a train wreck. You don't want to see it, but it's
drawing your attention. Rubber necking an accident.
color design. Certain colors are calming, others are alarming. You can sell
more things with blue, and pink colors than you can with red and black.

Kill files turn reds and blacks into pink and blue, stick blinders on thegroup
to erase the accidents and train wrecks screaming for attention.

you don't actually read all the spam you get ?
--
more pix @ [url]http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html[/url]

Thanks for the blocking information. Only two names blocked thus far, and I
can already feel the love (but no kisses ;-) coming from the group! Some
responses don't make as much sense, but they're easy to recognize, being
responses to those I've blocked.

A potential blocking problem may be that most don't use real email
addresses, and there's a possibility that two might be using the same one
(spam@spam.com or some such), but I'll take my chances there.

I'm taking my time choosing who to block, no need to be rash. But when all
that's left is people wanting help, and those willing to help, this is a
much more pleasant place to be! ;-) More pleasant, more informative,
helpful, etc.

--
Regards,

Rick Raisley

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org> wrote in message
news:EA1B83AD-CAA9-499B-BD3E-0E3E9A9E58F6@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Blocking someone is easier than that. In Windows Mail, highlight the[/color]
message[color=blue]
> from the person you want to block and go to Message/Junk E-Mail / Add[/color]
sender[color=blue]
> to blocked sender list.
>
> In Outlook Express, same way except the option is in Message / Block[/color]
Sender.[color=blue]
>
> Now, if we could just get people, who insist on replying to the trolls
> messages, to refrain from quoting their entire message this would be an[/color]
even[color=blue]
> more pleasant experience.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Mellowed" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:JHuXh.10365$no.1359@trnddc02...[color=green]
> >
> > "Rick Raisley" <heavymetal-A-T-bellsouth-D-O-T-net> wrote in message
> > news:OLoPVnqhHHA.392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> >> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> >> news:hqjs23p6g0vvja72rrma48b3ovs53oddjj@4ax.com...
> >>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:31:03 -0400, "Mike Hall MVP"
> >>> <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Respect for others in here.. you care only that you get your insults
> >>> >in..
> >>>
> >>> Mike just can't stop pretending he somehow was put in charge. Get over
> >>> your Walter Mity dream kid and maybe consider growing up instead of
> >>> trying to be a net cop. In case you haven't figured it out by youself,
> >>> NOBODY respects a smartass trying to boss others around.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Nor does anyone respect someone simply trying to disrupt and prevent
> >> people
> >> from getting the help they are asking for. Yes, it's true, there is no
> >> "boss" here. That makes it all the more important IMHO that "normal
> >> people"
> >> express their feelings about such newsgroup abuse. If people don't[/color][/color][/color]
state[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> that your comments are unwelcome, how are you to know, right?
> >>
> >>> Take a hint. THIS IS USENET. Anybody can say anything, anytime, for
> >>> any reason in any newsgroup, and they don't need your permission.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Unfortunate, but true. Just like the bullies and thugs on the wrong[/color][/color][/color]
side[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> of
> >> town, harassing good people, only like the gangs, they have come to
> >> invade
> >> the good neighborhoods as well. Anonymity allows anyone to do anything,
> >> usually things they would never think of doing (or be allowed to do) in
> >> real
> >> life.
> >>
> >> It just takes me and others a while to identify the names of those who
> >> are
> >> only here to disrupt and cause problems, and those who are here to help
> >> those with problems.
> >>
> >> I don't even mind that Umbutu or Linux or other OS's are mentioned, in
> >> their
> >> own threads, as alternatives for any that are so inclined; I do,[/color][/color][/color]
however,[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> resent valid threads being corrupted and interrupted, making it
> >> impossible
> >> for those needing help, and those willing to help, to communicate
> >> effectively.
> >>
> >> I'll ask again: How do I 'kill-file' a poster, so as not to see any of
> >> their
> >> posts? Can that be done in Outlook Express (and Windows Mail, for my[/color][/color][/color]
home[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Vista machine), or is that only available in 3rd-party news readers?
> >> (Although I will admit that having done that, I'd have missed the very
> >> amusing "If Restaurants Functioned Like Microsoft" post. ;-)[/color]
> >
> > Try Tools/Message Rules/News. Select the guy to delete.
> >[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rick Raisley
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >[/color]
>[/color]