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Old 01-02-2007, 10:55 AM
Bill Frisbee
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Um, what about the OS running on the computer in the car?


Bill F.

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>
> Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes don't
> usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue. Myself, I do
> cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in a moving vehicle
> is more dangerous than being in Iraq.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 01-02-2007, 10:55 AM
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Fully agree. When I got XP, I had to buy a new scanner because even though
there was an XP driver, I could never get it to work. Tried multiple times
over weeks and no go, so broke down and got a new scanner.

Currently have an ATI TV Wonder Pro card in my relatively new Vista capable
Dell XPS400. No Vista drivers at present on the ATI site. So... when Vista
hits the shelves at the end of January... if there are no drivers for my TV
card, then I will have to weigh the cost of moving to Vista in terms of
having to buy the OS and buying a new TV card. That'll be my decision, made
without having a gun up side my head.

Lang


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:%23jPsEkZHHHA.1064@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
> All through his own choice.
> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista in
> any version.
> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or not.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message news:%> Well, MS does
> well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do[color=green]
>> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't do
>> well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but, why
>> complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the commodities
>> broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets paid. Neither take
>> a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so 2 out of 3 ain't bad,
>> right?
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>[/color]

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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Fully agree. When I got XP, I had to buy a new scanner because even though
there was an XP driver, I could never get it to work. Tried multiple times
over weeks and no go, so broke down and got a new scanner.

Currently have an ATI TV Wonder Pro card in my relatively new Vista capable
Dell XPS400. No Vista drivers at present on the ATI site. So... when Vista
hits the shelves at the end of January... if there are no drivers for my TV
card, then I will have to weigh the cost of moving to Vista in terms of
having to buy the OS and buying a new TV card. That'll be my decision, made
without having a gun up side my head.

Lang


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:%23jPsEkZHHHA.1064@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
> All through his own choice.
> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista in
> any version.
> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or not.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> [url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
> [url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message news:%> Well, MS does
> well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do[color=green]
>> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't do
>> well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but, why
>> complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the commodities
>> broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets paid. Neither take
>> a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so 2 out of 3 ain't bad,
>> right?
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>[/color]

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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Um, what about the OS running on the computer in the car?
>
>
> Bill F.[/color]

Drivers cause accidents, not OSes. More Americans have died on the
highway since 2001 than in the Twin Towers, Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:uaeD$NYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes
>> don't usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue.
>> Myself, I do cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in
>> a moving vehicle is more dangerous than being in Iraq.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:56 AM
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
> All through his own choice.
> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista
> in any version.
> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or not.
>[/color]

If MS wasn't a de facto monopoly, you would have a point.

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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Um, what about the OS running on the computer in the car?
>
>
> Bill F.[/color]

Drivers cause accidents, not OSes. More Americans have died on the
highway since 2001 than in the Twin Towers, Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:uaeD$NYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes
>> don't usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue.
>> Myself, I do cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in
>> a moving vehicle is more dangerous than being in Iraq.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:56 AM
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
> All through his own choice.
> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista
> in any version.
> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or not.
>[/color]

If MS wasn't a de facto monopoly, you would have a point.

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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
news:eQx7FIeHHHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:[color=green]
>> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
>> All through his own choice.
>> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista in
>> any version.
>> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
>> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or
>> not.
>>[/color]
>
> If MS wasn't a de facto monopoly, you would have a point.[/color]

If the competition wasn't so lame (Linux? too cheap. Mac? too expensive)
you would have a point.

Mike

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Mike
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
news:eQx7FIeHHHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:[color=green]
>> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
>> All through his own choice.
>> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista in
>> any version.
>> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
>> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or
>> not.
>>[/color]
>
> If MS wasn't a de facto monopoly, you would have a point.[/color]

If the competition wasn't so lame (Linux? too cheap. Mac? too expensive)
you would have a point.

Mike

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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

> If the competition wasn't so lame (Linux? too cheap. Mac? too[color=blue]
> expensive) you would have a point.[/color]

Agreed.

But cheap is not Linux's weakness, user-unfriendly and little compatible
applications are, but don't worry, MS is moving to the same direction.


"Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
news:DC8FBF2F-F185-4368-812E-186D2A3A9A94@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:eQx7FIeHHHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
>>> All through his own choice.
>>> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista
>>> in any version.
>>> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
>>> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or
>>> not.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> If MS wasn't a de facto monopoly, you would have a point.[/color]
>
> If the competition wasn't so lame (Linux? too cheap. Mac? too
> expensive) you would have a point.
>
> Mike
>[/color]


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xfile
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

> If the competition wasn't so lame (Linux? too cheap. Mac? too[color=blue]
> expensive) you would have a point.[/color]

Agreed.

But cheap is not Linux's weakness, user-unfriendly and little compatible
applications are, but don't worry, MS is moving to the same direction.


"Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
news:DC8FBF2F-F185-4368-812E-186D2A3A9A94@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:eQx7FIeHHHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
>>> All through his own choice.
>>> No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista
>>> in any version.
>>> Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
>>> product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or
>>> not.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> If MS wasn't a de facto monopoly, you would have a point.[/color]
>
> If the competition wasn't so lame (Linux? too cheap. Mac? too
> expensive) you would have a point.
>
> Mike
>[/color]


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:56 AM
David
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

As a stock trader, you will notice the beat of the drum.

Buy Tech, Buy Tech.....per rum pum pum

If you guys want to make some money in 2007, seriously look at tech.

"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
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>I wont comment on the following..
>
> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>
> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11 December
> 2006 - 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>
> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry claims
> Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more financially from the
> operating system than Microsoft itself will in 2007. According to the
> report on the U.S. economic impact of Vista, for every one dollar
> Microsoft makes on Vista in 2007, Microsoft partners that offer software,
> hardware, and services related to Vista will make $18.
>
> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a Microsoft
> piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said John Gantz, one
> of the IDC analysts who wrote the report. "Microsoft, as a software
> vendor, casts a bigger shadow than its revenues." IDC analysts Al Gillen
> and Marcel Warmerdam co-wrote the report, released today, which was
> commissioned by Microsoft. The report also says that 35 percent to 45
> percent of new PCs that ship to enterprises in 2007 will run Vista. "Some
> thought [adoption] would move faster," Gantz said. "But to me, that's
> relatively quick."
>[/color]

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David
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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

As a stock trader, you will notice the beat of the drum.

Buy Tech, Buy Tech.....per rum pum pum

If you guys want to make some money in 2007, seriously look at tech.

"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
news:en6VCAVHHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I wont comment on the following..
>
> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>
> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11 December
> 2006 - 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>
> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry claims
> Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more financially from the
> operating system than Microsoft itself will in 2007. According to the
> report on the U.S. economic impact of Vista, for every one dollar
> Microsoft makes on Vista in 2007, Microsoft partners that offer software,
> hardware, and services related to Vista will make $18.
>
> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a Microsoft
> piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said John Gantz, one
> of the IDC analysts who wrote the report. "Microsoft, as a software
> vendor, casts a bigger shadow than its revenues." IDC analysts Al Gillen
> and Marcel Warmerdam co-wrote the report, released today, which was
> commissioned by Microsoft. The report also says that 35 percent to 45
> percent of new PCs that ship to enterprises in 2007 will run Vista. "Some
> thought [adoption] would move faster," Gantz said. "But to me, that's
> relatively quick."
>[/color]

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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Um, what about the OS running on the computer in the car?
>
>
> Bill F.[/color]

LOL, that's an easy one:

Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto
industry and stated, “If GM had kept up with technology like the
computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got
1,000 miles to the gallon.”

In response to Bill’s comments, General Motors issued a press release
stating:

If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving
cars with the following characteristics:

1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have
to buy a new car.
3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You
would have to pull to the side of the road, close all of the windows,
shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could
continue. For some reason you would simply accept this.
4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would
cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you
would have to reinstall the engine.
5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was
reliable, five times! as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would run
on only five percent of the roads.
6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would
all be replaced by a single “This Car Has Performed An Illegal
Operation” warning light.
7. The airbag system would ask “Are you sure?” before deploying.
8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you
out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door
handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to
learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would
operate in the same manner as the old car.
10. You’d have to press the “Start” button to turn the engine off.

[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:uaeD$NYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes
>> don't usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue.
>> Myself, I do cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in
>> a moving vehicle is more dangerous than being in Iraq.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]



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Re: For every 1 dollar MS makes the rest of the world makes 18...

Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Um, what about the OS running on the computer in the car?
>
>
> Bill F.[/color]

LOL, that's an easy one:

Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto
industry and stated, “If GM had kept up with technology like the
computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got
1,000 miles to the gallon.”

In response to Bill’s comments, General Motors issued a press release
stating:

If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving
cars with the following characteristics:

1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have
to buy a new car.
3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You
would have to pull to the side of the road, close all of the windows,
shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could
continue. For some reason you would simply accept this.
4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would
cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you
would have to reinstall the engine.
5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was
reliable, five times! as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would run
on only five percent of the roads.
6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would
all be replaced by a single “This Car Has Performed An Illegal
Operation” warning light.
7. The airbag system would ask “Are you sure?” before deploying.
8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you
out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door
handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to
learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would
operate in the same manner as the old car.
10. You’d have to press the “Start” button to turn the engine off.

[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:uaeD$NYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes
>> don't usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue.
>> Myself, I do cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in
>> a moving vehicle is more dangerous than being in Iraq.
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]



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