Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Agreed, come January, there will be lots of people running to tech's to
> get Vista installed, upgrade various hardware to support Vista, etc.[/color]

Don't forget "repaired".
[color=blue]
> All in all better supporting our local and global businesses.
>
> Yet another thumbs up for Microsoft.
>
> Bill F.[/color]

And yet another thumbs down from Microsoft for their paying customers
but what else is new?

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:Ow8HcCVHHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> The rolling out of Vista is a repair tech's dream come true.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>[/color]

Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Agreed, come January, there will be lots of people running to tech's to
> get Vista installed, upgrade various hardware to support Vista, etc.[/color]

Don't forget "repaired".
[color=blue]
> All in all better supporting our local and global businesses.
>
> Yet another thumbs up for Microsoft.
>
> Bill F.[/color]

And yet another thumbs down from Microsoft for their paying customers
but what else is new?

Alias[color=blue]
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:Ow8HcCVHHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> The rolling out of Vista is a repair tech's dream come true.
>>
>> Alias[/color]
>[/color]

Ron K. wrote:[color=blue]
> So what? Same thing happened with XP, ME, OSX, etc. Same thing as buying a
> new car, you go out and get new floor mats, stereo, seat covers, and better
> tires/rims. You gat a new toy along with the accessories, whats the big
> deal?[/color]

Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes don't
usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue. Myself, I do
cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in a moving
vehicle is more dangerous than being in Iraq.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> "MicroFox" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I wont comment on the following..
>>
>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>>
>> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11 December 2006 -
>> 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>>
>> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry claims
>> Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more financially from the
>> operating system than Microsoft itself will in 2007. According to the report
>> on the U.S. economic impact of Vista, for every one dollar Microsoft makes
>> on Vista in 2007, Microsoft partners that offer software, hardware, and
>> services related to Vista will make $18.
>>
>> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a Microsoft
>> piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said John Gantz, one
>> of the IDC analysts who wrote the report. "Microsoft, as a software vendor,
>> casts a bigger shadow than its revenues." IDC analysts Al Gillen and Marcel
>> Warmerdam co-wrote the report, released today, which was commissioned by
>> Microsoft. The report also says that 35 percent to 45 percent of new PCs
>> that ship to enterprises in 2007 will run Vista. "Some thought [adoption]
>> would move faster," Gantz said. "But to me, that's relatively quick."
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

Ron K. wrote:[color=blue]
> So what? Same thing happened with XP, ME, OSX, etc. Same thing as buying a
> new car, you go out and get new floor mats, stereo, seat covers, and better
> tires/rims. You gat a new toy along with the accessories, whats the big
> deal?[/color]

Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes don't
usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue. Myself, I do
cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in a moving
vehicle is more dangerous than being in Iraq.

Alias[color=blue]
>
> "MicroFox" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I wont comment on the following..
>>
>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>>
>> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11 December 2006 -
>> 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>>
>> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry claims
>> Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more financially from the
>> operating system than Microsoft itself will in 2007. According to the report
>> on the U.S. economic impact of Vista, for every one dollar Microsoft makes
>> on Vista in 2007, Microsoft partners that offer software, hardware, and
>> services related to Vista will make $18.
>>
>> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a Microsoft
>> piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said John Gantz, one
>> of the IDC analysts who wrote the report. "Microsoft, as a software vendor,
>> casts a bigger shadow than its revenues." IDC analysts Al Gillen and Marcel
>> Warmerdam co-wrote the report, released today, which was commissioned by
>> Microsoft. The report also says that 35 percent to 45 percent of new PCs
>> that ship to enterprises in 2007 will run Vista. "Some thought [adoption]
>> would move faster," Gantz said. "But to me, that's relatively quick."
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

>[color=blue]
> Don't forget "repaired".
>[/color]

Repaired systems happen now, they happened in the past and they will
continue to happen, be it from someone breaking a "cup holder", sticking two
CD's in the drive or downloading something bad...

[color=blue]
> And yet another thumbs down from Microsoft for their paying customers but
> what else is new?
>[/color]

So it's OK for Apple to bilk users nearly every year for mostly incremental
upgrades, no better than a SP most of the time, but its not OK for Microsoft
to release a new consumer OS every 5 years or so?

Explain to me how that is bad for the paying customer?

They get a new computer typically every 38 months in the US, and upgrade
OS's typically every 6.

But Microsoft is somehow screwing the customer?

Yeah OK... thats a rather strange little world you live in.


Bill F.

>[color=blue]
> Don't forget "repaired".
>[/color]

Repaired systems happen now, they happened in the past and they will
continue to happen, be it from someone breaking a "cup holder", sticking two
CD's in the drive or downloading something bad...

[color=blue]
> And yet another thumbs down from Microsoft for their paying customers but
> what else is new?
>[/color]

So it's OK for Apple to bilk users nearly every year for mostly incremental
upgrades, no better than a SP most of the time, but its not OK for Microsoft
to release a new consumer OS every 5 years or so?

Explain to me how that is bad for the paying customer?

They get a new computer typically every 38 months in the US, and upgrade
OS's typically every 6.

But Microsoft is somehow screwing the customer?

Yeah OK... thats a rather strange little world you live in.


Bill F.

Customer gets a new, more secure, more robust OS, that can take advantage of
the newer hardware released since XP came out.

Yeah thats a real bad thing.

I don't get it, Microsoft takes 5 years to release an OS and people scream
for either taking too long or supposedly ripping customers off...

Meanwhile some people whose only interface with Vista seems to be Slashdot
(or some other Linux oriented, Microsoft bashing site), Apple (or some other
Apple oriented, Microsoft bashing site) comments from the true fanboi's of
the world...

Bill F.

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
news:%23x7wmPYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=green]
>> And how is this a bad thing?
>>
>> Other companies make money... lots of money.
>>
>>
>> Thus Microsoft contributes to the economy and better business in general.
>>
>>
>> Bill F.[/color]
>
> Well, MS does well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do
> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't do
> well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but, why
> complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the commodities
> broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets paid. Neither take
> a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so 2 out of 3 ain't bad,
> right?
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>> news:en6VCAVHHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> I wont comment on the following..
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>>>
>>> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11 December
>>> 2006 - 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>>>
>>> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry claims
>>> Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more financially from the
>>> operating system than Microsoft itself will in 2007. According to the
>>> report on the U.S. economic impact of Vista, for every one dollar
>>> Microsoft makes on Vista in 2007, Microsoft partners that offer
>>> software, hardware, and services related to Vista will make $18.
>>>
>>> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a
>>> Microsoft piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said
>>> John Gantz, one of the IDC analysts who wrote the report. "Microsoft, as
>>> a software vendor, casts a bigger shadow than its revenues." IDC
>>> analysts Al Gillen and Marcel Warmerdam co-wrote the report, released
>>> today, which was commissioned by Microsoft. The report also says that 35
>>> percent to 45 percent of new PCs that ship to enterprises in 2007 will
>>> run Vista. "Some thought [adoption] would move faster," Gantz said. "But
>>> to me, that's relatively quick."
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

Customer gets a new, more secure, more robust OS, that can take advantage of
the newer hardware released since XP came out.

Yeah thats a real bad thing.

I don't get it, Microsoft takes 5 years to release an OS and people scream
for either taking too long or supposedly ripping customers off...

Meanwhile some people whose only interface with Vista seems to be Slashdot
(or some other Linux oriented, Microsoft bashing site), Apple (or some other
Apple oriented, Microsoft bashing site) comments from the true fanboi's of
the world...

Bill F.

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
news:%23x7wmPYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=green]
>> And how is this a bad thing?
>>
>> Other companies make money... lots of money.
>>
>>
>> Thus Microsoft contributes to the economy and better business in general.
>>
>>
>> Bill F.[/color]
>
> Well, MS does well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do
> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't do
> well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but, why
> complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the commodities
> broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets paid. Neither take
> a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so 2 out of 3 ain't bad,
> right?
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>
>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>> news:en6VCAVHHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> I wont comment on the following..
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>>>
>>> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11 December
>>> 2006 - 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>>>
>>> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry claims
>>> Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more financially from the
>>> operating system than Microsoft itself will in 2007. According to the
>>> report on the U.S. economic impact of Vista, for every one dollar
>>> Microsoft makes on Vista in 2007, Microsoft partners that offer
>>> software, hardware, and services related to Vista will make $18.
>>>
>>> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a
>>> Microsoft piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said
>>> John Gantz, one of the IDC analysts who wrote the report. "Microsoft, as
>>> a software vendor, casts a bigger shadow than its revenues." IDC
>>> analysts Al Gillen and Marcel Warmerdam co-wrote the report, released
>>> today, which was commissioned by Microsoft. The report also says that 35
>>> percent to 45 percent of new PCs that ship to enterprises in 2007 will
>>> run Vista. "Some thought [adoption] would move faster," Gantz said. "But
>>> to me, that's relatively quick."
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]

Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Customer gets a new, more secure, more robust OS, that can take
> advantage of the newer hardware released since XP came out.
>
> Yeah thats a real bad thing.
>
> I don't get it, Microsoft takes 5 years to release an OS and people
> scream for either taking too long or supposedly ripping customers off...
>
> Meanwhile some people whose only interface with Vista seems to be
> Slashdot (or some other Linux oriented, Microsoft bashing site), Apple
> (or some other Apple oriented, Microsoft bashing site) comments from the
> true fanboi's of the world...
>
> Bill F.[/color]

Don't you call Steve Ballmer a true fanboi of MS?
[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:%23x7wmPYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> And how is this a bad thing?
>>>
>>> Other companies make money... lots of money.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thus Microsoft contributes to the economy and better business in
>>> general.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill F.[/color]
>>
>> Well, MS does well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do
>> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't
>> do well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but,
>> why complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the
>> commodities broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets
>> paid. Neither take a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so
>> 2 out of 3 ain't bad, right?
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>>> news:en6VCAVHHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I wont comment on the following..
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11
>>>> December 2006 - 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>>>>
>>>> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry
>>>> claims Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more
>>>> financially from the operating system than Microsoft itself will in
>>>> 2007. According to the report on the U.S. economic impact of Vista,
>>>> for every one dollar Microsoft makes on Vista in 2007, Microsoft
>>>> partners that offer software, hardware, and services related to
>>>> Vista will make $18.
>>>>
>>>> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a
>>>> Microsoft piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said
>>>> John Gantz, one of the IDC analysts who wrote the report.
>>>> "Microsoft, as a software vendor, casts a bigger shadow than its
>>>> revenues." IDC analysts Al Gillen and Marcel Warmerdam co-wrote the
>>>> report, released today, which was commissioned by Microsoft. The
>>>> report also says that 35 percent to 45 percent of new PCs that ship
>>>> to enterprises in 2007 will run Vista. "Some thought [adoption]
>>>> would move faster," Gantz said. "But to me, that's relatively quick."
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]




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Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=blue]
> Customer gets a new, more secure, more robust OS, that can take
> advantage of the newer hardware released since XP came out.
>
> Yeah thats a real bad thing.
>
> I don't get it, Microsoft takes 5 years to release an OS and people
> scream for either taking too long or supposedly ripping customers off...
>
> Meanwhile some people whose only interface with Vista seems to be
> Slashdot (or some other Linux oriented, Microsoft bashing site), Apple
> (or some other Apple oriented, Microsoft bashing site) comments from the
> true fanboi's of the world...
>
> Bill F.[/color]

Don't you call Steve Ballmer a true fanboi of MS?
[color=blue]
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:%23x7wmPYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Bill Frisbee wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> And how is this a bad thing?
>>>
>>> Other companies make money... lots of money.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thus Microsoft contributes to the economy and better business in
>>> general.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill F.[/color]
>>
>> Well, MS does well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do
>> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't
>> do well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but,
>> why complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the
>> commodities broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets
>> paid. Neither take a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so
>> 2 out of 3 ain't bad, right?
>>
>> Alias[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>>> news:en6VCAVHHHA.4068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I wont comment on the following..
>>>>
>>>> [url]http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36422[/url]
>>>>
>>>> Vista Boosts Tech IndustryPosted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 11
>>>> December 2006 - 16:04 · 6 comments, 396 views & no trackbacks
>>>>
>>>> A new IDC report on the impact of Windows Vista on the industry
>>>> claims Microsoft's business partners stand to benefit more
>>>> financially from the operating system than Microsoft itself will in
>>>> 2007. According to the report on the U.S. economic impact of Vista,
>>>> for every one dollar Microsoft makes on Vista in 2007, Microsoft
>>>> partners that offer software, hardware, and services related to
>>>> Vista will make $18.
>>>>
>>>> "If there's a surprising thing to people, it's how extensively a
>>>> Microsoft piece of software ripples out through the ecosystem," said
>>>> John Gantz, one of the IDC analysts who wrote the report.
>>>> "Microsoft, as a software vendor, casts a bigger shadow than its
>>>> revenues." IDC analysts Al Gillen and Marcel Warmerdam co-wrote the
>>>> report, released today, which was commissioned by Microsoft. The
>>>> report also says that 35 percent to 45 percent of new PCs that ship
>>>> to enterprises in 2007 will run Vista. "Some thought [adoption]
>>>> would move faster," Gantz said. "But to me, that's relatively quick."
>>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]




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"But I'm not insulting people. I'm insulting Linux Loonies..."
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"No, I'm not sure. I was just making fun of Chad's typo."
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"...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
All through his own choice.
No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista in
any version.
Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or not.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message news:%> Well, MS does
well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do[color=blue]
> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't do
> well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but, why
> complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the commodities
> broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets paid. Neither take
> a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so 2 out of 3 ain't bad,
> right?
>
> Alias[/color]

"...poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars..."
All through his own choice.
No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything, much less Windows Vista in
any version.
Anyone that purchases any Microsoft product as well as most any other
product has full choice and makes a conscious decision to purchase or not.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
[url]http://www3.telus.net/dandemar[/url]
[url]http://www.dts-l.org[/url]


"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message news:%> Well, MS does
well, the stock market does well. Hardware companies do[color=blue]
> well. Third party software companies do well. The only one who doesn't do
> well is the poor sap that parts with his hard earned dollars but, why
> complain when 4 out of 5 doing well ain't bad. Kinda like the commodities
> broker. The broker gets paid. The brokerage house gets paid. Neither take
> a risk. It's only the customer who usually loses so 2 out of 3 ain't bad,
> right?
>
> Alias[/color]

He run the company... what is your point?


Bill F.

"Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message
news:457e0c02$0$15435$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=blue]
>
> Don't you call Steve Ballmer a true fanboi of MS?
>[/color]

He run the company... what is your point?


Bill F.

"Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message
news:457e0c02$0$15435$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=blue]
>
> Don't you call Steve Ballmer a true fanboi of MS?
>[/color]

Um, what about the OS running on the computer in the car?


Bill F.

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
news:uaeD$NYHHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> Actually, buying a car is much more stupid than buying an OS. OSes don't
> usually take you for a ride to the hospital or the morgue. Myself, I do
> cars as little as possible because I know that sitting in a moving vehicle
> is more dangerous than being in Iraq.
>
> Alias[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]