Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
lost so much data I'm going crazy.

What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
with Vista.

Whatya think? Worth a try?

Hi,

If you're sure that you really don't want Vista -- and that you can get your
money back -- return the Vista machine.

If Circuit City claims they have no XP PCs left, Dell is now offering XP on
their machines again, plus I'm sure there are other brands that you can buy
that come with XP as its operating system.

Alan

<46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>
> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
> with Vista.
>
> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]

It is your decision. No one here can answer for Circuit City as to what
their response will be.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

<46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>
> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
> with Vista.
>
> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]

[email]46erjoe@nospam.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>
> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
> with Vista.
>
> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]

The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP.

"Otto Normalverbraucher" <Otto@Normalverbraucher.com> wrote in message
news:mMoWh.134$zI1.60@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...[color=blue]
> [email]46erjoe@nospam.com[/email] wrote:[color=green]
>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
>> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
>> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
>> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>[/color][/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
>
> The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP.
>[/color]

They're not?? What about all these??:

XP>> = Windows XP Location
Vista>> = Windows Vista Location

===============================

XP>> \Documents and Settings
Vista>> \Users

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Documents

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Music

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Pictures

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Videos

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookie
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network Shortcuts

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer Shortcuts

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History

XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
Files

XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users
Vista>> \ProgramData

XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data
Vista>> \ProgramData

XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop
Vista>> \Users\Public\Desktop

XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
Vista>> \Users\Public\Documents

XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites
Vista>> \Users\Public\Favorites

XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates

XP>> \Documents and Settings\Default User
Vista>> \Users\Default

===============================

Why so many changes? Simple. This is by design.

All the changes, including widespread renaming of "default" folders and
apps, rearranging of menus with no rhyme or reason, and apparently for no
real purpose, confusing new graphic interface, are all necessary to make
Vista look sufficiently different from previous versions of Windows. This
only serves one purpose; to create the illusion that Vista is a new OS. Dig
deep enough and you can find dialogs and graphics leftover from Windows
3.11.
What is truly amazing is just how many people continue to fall for this old
and tired MS sales tactic.

Otherwise, people would see it for what it really is, just another XP
Service Pack, or as I prefer to call it, Windows 95 v4.0

Consider, no one will ever offer an explanation as to WHY all these
system-wide changes were implemented, much less needed. This is just another
example of how the Marketing Dept. is now the driving force at Microsoft.

--
=======================================
"Have you ever noticed that it is only drug dealers and computer companies
that call their clients 'users'?"
=======================================

[email]46erjoe@nospam.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>
> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
> with Vista.
>
> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]

Be sure and go when there's a lot of people in the store and speak with
a loud voice so everyone can hear.

Alias

Well, if they say they've got a 30-day period in which to return something,
that's gotta mean SOMETHING, right?
If you're dissatisfied with it, don't see why their satisfaction-guaranteed
promise wouldn't apply.
Do you have a copy of the policy? Have you reread it?

You might want to check, though, for the dreaded "restocking fee." They may
actually charge you something to take it back.



<46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>
> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
> with Vista.
>
> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]

"john" <john@msn.com> wrote in
news:O46ujUChHHA.2640@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
[color=blue]
> "Otto Normalverbraucher" <Otto@Normalverbraucher.com> wrote in
> message news:mMoWh.134$zI1.60@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...[color=green]
>> [email]46erjoe@nospam.com[/email] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm
>>> so utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of
>>> the hole it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system,
>>> locations, etc. I've lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>>[/color][/color]
> <snip>[color=green]
>>
>> The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP.
>>[/color]
>
> They're not?? What about all these??:
>
> XP>> = Windows XP Location
> Vista>> = Windows Vista Location
>
> ===============================
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings
> Vista>> \Users
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Documents
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Music
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Pictures
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Videos
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookie
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network
> Shortcuts
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer
> Shortcuts
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application
> Data Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary
> Internet Files Vista>>
> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
> Files
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users
> Vista>> \ProgramData
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data
> Vista>> \ProgramData
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop
> Vista>> \Users\Public\Desktop
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
> Vista>> \Users\Public\Documents
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites
> Vista>> \Users\Public\Favorites
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
> Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
> Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\Default User
> Vista>> \Users\Default
>
> ===============================[/color]


Folder/File structure is still exactly the same, just organized
differently. Personally I prefer the way it is in Vista.

Does it really matter if you have to go to a Documents folder to get
to a user, or a User Folder to get to a document?

I 'd rather go to a User folder to get to a document myself.

As stated before with indexing you really don't need to use explorer
anymore anyways to find a file. just type it in the search box.
Granted there are certain situation where you need to use Explorer
but on the most part you dont need to anymore.


--
Hope this helps
Dave

Agreed. When I returned on many years ago, they had a 15% restocking fee if
you couldn't find something else to replace it with at a higher price. Even
then it was a hassle.

"DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OsXsgfChHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Well, if they say they've got a 30-day period in which to return
> something, that's gotta mean SOMETHING, right?
> If you're dissatisfied with it, don't see why their
> satisfaction-guaranteed promise wouldn't apply.
> Do you have a copy of the policy? Have you reread it?
>
> You might want to check, though, for the dreaded "restocking fee." They
> may actually charge you something to take it back.
>
>
>
> <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
>> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
>> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
>> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>
>> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
>> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
>> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
>> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
>> with Vista.
>>
>> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]
>[/color]

john wrote:[color=blue]
> "Otto Normalverbraucher" <Otto@Normalverbraucher.com> wrote in message
> news:mMoWh.134$zI1.60@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>[color=green]
>>46erjoe@nospam.com wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
>>>utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
>>>it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
>>>lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>>[/color][/color]
>
> <snip>
>[color=green]
>>The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP.
>>[/color]
>
>
> They're not?? What about all these??:
>
> XP>> = Windows XP Location
> Vista>> = Windows Vista Location
>
> ===============================
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings
> Vista>> \Users
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Documents
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Music
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Pictures
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Videos
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookie
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network Shortcuts
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer Shortcuts
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
> Files
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users
> Vista>> \ProgramData
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data
> Vista>> \ProgramData
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop
> Vista>> \Users\Public\Desktop
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents
> Vista>> \Users\Public\Documents
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites
> Vista>> \Users\Public\Favorites
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
> Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
> Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
>
> XP>> \Documents and Settings\Default User
> Vista>> \Users\Default
>
> ===============================
>
> Why so many changes? Simple. This is by design.
>
> All the changes, including widespread renaming of "default" folders and
> apps, rearranging of menus with no rhyme or reason, and apparently for no
> real purpose, confusing new graphic interface, are all necessary to make
> Vista look sufficiently different from previous versions of Windows. This
> only serves one purpose; to create the illusion that Vista is a new OS. Dig
> deep enough and you can find dialogs and graphics leftover from Windows
> 3.11.
> What is truly amazing is just how many people continue to fall for this old
> and tired MS sales tactic.
>
> Otherwise, people would see it for what it really is, just another XP
> Service Pack, or as I prefer to call it, Windows 95 v4.0
>
> Consider, no one will ever offer an explanation as to WHY all these
> system-wide changes were implemented, much less needed. This is just another
> example of how the Marketing Dept. is now the driving force at Microsoft.
>[/color]


It's apparent that you're easily confused and have no real understanding
of Windows, MS or Vista or even computers.
Don't you think it's about time for you to switch to something more
er...childishly designed like Ubuttoo.
I hear that flipping that cubie thing is not very challenging at all and
really fun!
(smirk, snort, belch)
Frank

You may not have much recourse with Circuit City - However,
you are entitled to run/use a previous Operating System in place
of Vista. ( Part of the licensing of Microsoft Operating Systems ).
I would pick up the phone and call Gateway. Returning the whole
PC just to rid yourself of Vista is a little extreme but it may be the
only practical way to get new hardware with XP pre-installed.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:eI4YkGDhHHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Agreed. When I returned on many years ago, they had a 15% restocking fee
> if you couldn't find something else to replace it with at a higher price.
> Even then it was a hassle.
>
> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OsXsgfChHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Well, if they say they've got a 30-day period in which to return
>> something, that's gotta mean SOMETHING, right?
>> If you're dissatisfied with it, don't see why their
>> satisfaction-guaranteed promise wouldn't apply.
>> Do you have a copy of the policy? Have you reread it?
>>
>> You might want to check, though, for the dreaded "restocking fee." They
>> may actually charge you something to take it back.
>>
>>
>>
>> <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
>>> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
>>> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
>>> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>>
>>> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
>>> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
>>> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
>>> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
>>> with Vista.
>>>
>>> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

A previously owned operating system, as with an upgrade. They do not
provide an earlier operating system which was never owned and licensed.

"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:eXPdXRDhHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> You may not have much recourse with Circuit City - However,
> you are entitled to run/use a previous Operating System in place
> of Vista. ( Part of the licensing of Microsoft Operating Systems ).
> I would pick up the phone and call Gateway. Returning the whole
> PC just to rid yourself of Vista is a little extreme but it may be the
> only practical way to get new hardware with XP pre-installed.
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:eI4YkGDhHHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Agreed. When I returned on many years ago, they had a 15% restocking fee
>> if you couldn't find something else to replace it with at a higher price.
>> Even then it was a hassle.
>>
>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:OsXsgfChHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Well, if they say they've got a 30-day period in which to return
>>> something, that's gotta mean SOMETHING, right?
>>> If you're dissatisfied with it, don't see why their
>>> satisfaction-guaranteed promise wouldn't apply.
>>> Do you have a copy of the policy? Have you reread it?
>>>
>>> You might want to check, though, for the dreaded "restocking fee." They
>>> may actually charge you something to take it back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com...
>>>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
>>>> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
>>>> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
>>>> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>>>
>>>> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
>>>> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
>>>> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
>>>> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
>>>> with Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Whatya think? Worth a try?
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

[url]http://download.microsoft.com/download/d/2/3/d23b9533-169d-4996-b198-7b9d3fe15611/downgrade_chart.doc[/url]

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:%234KgWWDhHHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>A previously owned operating system, as with an upgrade. They do not
>provide an earlier operating system which was never owned and licensed.
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:eXPdXRDhHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> You may not have much recourse with Circuit City - However,
>> you are entitled to run/use a previous Operating System in place
>> of Vista. ( Part of the licensing of Microsoft Operating Systems ).
>> I would pick up the phone and call Gateway. Returning the whole
>> PC just to rid yourself of Vista is a little extreme but it may be the
>> only practical way to get new hardware with XP pre-installed.
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> news:eI4YkGDhHHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>> Agreed. When I returned on many years ago, they had a 15% restocking
>>> fee if you couldn't find something else to replace it with at a higher
>>> price. Even then it was a hassle.
>>>
>>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OsXsgfChHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Well, if they say they've got a 30-day period in which to return
>>>> something, that's gotta mean SOMETHING, right?
>>>> If you're dissatisfied with it, don't see why their
>>>> satisfaction-guaranteed promise wouldn't apply.
>>>> Do you have a copy of the policy? Have you reread it?
>>>>
>>>> You might want to check, though, for the dreaded "restocking fee." They
>>>> may actually charge you something to take it back.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com...
>>>>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
>>>>> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
>>>>> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
>>>>> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
>>>>> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
>>>>> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
>>>>> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
>>>>> with Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatya think? Worth a try?
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

[email]46erjoe@nospam.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>
> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and
> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day
> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to
> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost
> with Vista.
>
> Whatya think? Worth a try?[/color]

I seriously doubt you've permanently lost (as in deleted) any data.
You just don't know where to find it.
This is actually the one biggest complaint about Vista...that is it has
changed the location of various folders and some users (like yourself)
have become very frustrated.
I feel your pain but giving up is not the solution because Vista ain't
going away. It is the future and once you become accustomed to it, all
will be ok.
Try solving your problems one at a time and before you know it they'll
all be solved.

And try and use this ng for real help...like posting one problem,
getting help to solve it, then post another. And don't listen to the
airhead losers in this ng. They've already given up and are even more
frustrated than you are.
It will work if you work it.
Frank

john wrote:[color=blue]
> "Otto Normalverbraucher" <Otto@Normalverbraucher.com> wrote in message
> news:mMoWh.134$zI1.60@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...[color=green]
>> [email]46erjoe@nospam.com[/email] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so
>>> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole
>>> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've
>>> lost so much data I'm going crazy.
>>>[/color][/color]
> <snip>[color=green]
>> The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP.
>>[/color]
>
> They're not?? What about all these??:[/color]

No they're not.
Apply a little common sense & it's real easy to locate where things have
moved to.
As to "losing" data. lol.