You are not dual booting with XP by any chance? I have to be honest and say
that I don't have system restore enabled. Personally I much prefer to image
my hard drive periodically using Acronis True Image 10.

With Vista I have always found system restore temperamental. Yes, I have
experienced the same problem with system restore as you are now having;
this, however, was in the early beta stages. The bug was reported and, as
far as I am aware, I never got a message back saying whether the fault had
been repaired or whether they were not fixing it.

I originally dual booted XP and Vista and it is a known problem that when
you boot to XP you wipe out every system restore point on Vista. Now I still
dual boot, but I use virtual machine software to access XP. I also found
that, on the one occasion I made multiple restore points in one day
(manually), when I came to restore the system the restore files were
corrupt; so basically they were useless to me and I had to re-image the
drive.

Most SOD are driver related. I'm not saying it will work or not, but have
you tried removing all USB devices and then installing Vista? USB devices
connected to the PC during install are known to cause problems. If you have
a USB keyboard/Mouse then, just for installing Vista, change it to a PS/2

--
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Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

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"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:l5nm23l442ck8191bgc2242c6pbh5ken5n@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:57:28 +0100, "John Barnett MVP"
> <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>You didn't read it wrong. Unlike Windows XP, Vista doesn't have a repair
>>option whereby you can stick the DVD into the DVD drive, boot up, select I
>>at the appropriate time etc, etc.
>>
>>However, Vista can be repaired by actually 'upgrading' the copy you
>>already
>>have. By doing this it also keeps any setting and applications you already
>>have installed. I have to admit that when I tired it the process took
>>literally hours, I think it was about 4 hours, but it did the trick. My
>>only
>>complaint was the fact that, after the upgrade, Vista announced that my
>>copy
>>was not a legal copy. However, that problem was soon solved as I have
>>outlined in the article on my website.[/color]
>
> Hi John,
> Yes I know but that is exactly what DID NOT WORK on mine.
> I had a problem and still do with System Restore. It won't create the
> automatic restore points. It does create SOME of
> the install and all the manual RP's.
> That is why I used you instructions to do this but get a BSOD when it is
> completing the upgrade.
> I have sent messages here but no one seems to know the answer to this.
>
> That is also why I asked you about your second instruction on disabling
> the restart on a failure.
> As of even now I have only 1 automatic checkpoint RP on 4/20/2007 None
> today. I did a clean install on 4/17/2007.
>
> I have even changed the RP frequency to do it every 12 hours as per Ed
> Bott's Inside Out MS Press book but doesn't work
> either.
>
> Have a good day,
> RScotti
>
> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
>[/color]

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:46:44 +0100, "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote:
[color=blue]
>You are not dual booting with XP by any chance? I have to be honest and say
>that I don't have system restore enabled. Personally I much prefer to image
>my hard drive periodically using Acronis True Image 10.[/color]
I am not dual booting with anything. I do three things. Complete PC Backup, System Restore & ENUNT.
I miss the Norton Ghost had much better options. Will still buy it when the Vista comes out cause Complete PC backup
counts the System Restore even though it doesn't copy them.
[color=blue]
>With Vista I have always found system restore temperamental. Yes, I have
>experienced the same problem with system restore as you are now having;
>this, however, was in the early beta stages. The bug was reported and, as
>far as I am aware, I never got a message back saying whether the fault had
>been repaired or whether they were not fixing it.[/color]
You are right on that one! Still only have one Checkpoint restore and it's been over 36 hours.
[color=blue]
>I originally dual booted XP and Vista and it is a known problem that when
>you boot to XP you wipe out every system restore point on Vista. Now I still
>dual boot, but I use virtual machine software to access XP. I also found
>that, on the one occasion I made multiple restore points in one day
>(manually), when I came to restore the system the restore files were
>corrupt; so basically they were useless to me and I had to re-image the
>drive.[/color]
Yes, I learned that from Colin.I did use VPC 2007 but only the beta version also.
[color=blue]
>Most SOD are driver related. I'm not saying it will work or not, but have
>you tried removing all USB devices and then installing Vista? USB devices
>connected to the PC during install are known to cause problems. If you have
>a USB keyboard/Mouse then, just for installing Vista, change it to a PS/2[/color]

I don't thing so since I can an did do a clean install with the same configuration.
I did have USB drives but they were shut off both ways.

PS I really want to thank you for all the time you are spending with me.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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The 'time' is immaterial. If I know the answer and can help you then I will.
The problem is the machine is not in front of me so it is difficult to see
what is happening.

You would know if you were dual booting because a menu would appear giving
you the option to boot to XP or Vista. It would also mean that you would
have to have installed both Vista and XP on your system.

You mention USB drives are these the small USB disks or are we talking about
200 to 400GB full hard drives. When I say remove USB hardware I mean just
that. Unplug every USB item you have. Once again if you have a USB
keyboard/mouse then see if you can borrow a standard PS/2 keyboard/mouse
from a friend to allow you to install Vista again.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: [url]http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org[/url]
Web: [url]http://vistasupport.mvps.org[/url]

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"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ki6n23pt137251qtip5osab00oaf46d12d@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:46:44 +0100, "John Barnett MVP"
> <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>You are not dual booting with XP by any chance? I have to be honest and
>>say
>>that I don't have system restore enabled. Personally I much prefer to
>>image
>>my hard drive periodically using Acronis True Image 10.[/color]
> I am not dual booting with anything. I do three things. Complete PC
> Backup, System Restore & ENUNT.
> I miss the Norton Ghost had much better options. Will still buy it when
> the Vista comes out cause Complete PC backup
> counts the System Restore even though it doesn't copy them.
>[color=green]
>>With Vista I have always found system restore temperamental. Yes, I have
>>experienced the same problem with system restore as you are now having;
>>this, however, was in the early beta stages. The bug was reported and, as
>>far as I am aware, I never got a message back saying whether the fault had
>>been repaired or whether they were not fixing it.[/color]
> You are right on that one! Still only have one Checkpoint restore and it's
> been over 36 hours.
>[color=green]
>>I originally dual booted XP and Vista and it is a known problem that when
>>you boot to XP you wipe out every system restore point on Vista. Now I
>>still
>>dual boot, but I use virtual machine software to access XP. I also found
>>that, on the one occasion I made multiple restore points in one day
>>(manually), when I came to restore the system the restore files were
>>corrupt; so basically they were useless to me and I had to re-image the
>>drive.[/color]
> Yes, I learned that from Colin.I did use VPC 2007 but only the beta
> version also.
>[color=green]
>>Most SOD are driver related. I'm not saying it will work or not, but have
>>you tried removing all USB devices and then installing Vista? USB devices
>>connected to the PC during install are known to cause problems. If you
>>have
>>a USB keyboard/Mouse then, just for installing Vista, change it to a PS/2[/color]
>
> I don't thing so since I can an did do a clean install with the same
> configuration.
> I did have USB drives but they were shut off both ways.
>
> PS I really want to thank you for all the time you are spending with me.
>
> Have a good day,
> RScotti
>
> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
>[/color]

Hi John,
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:17:01 +0100, "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote:
[color=blue]
>You would know if you were dual booting because a menu would appear giving
>you the option to boot to XP or Vista. It would also mean that you would
>have to have installed both Vista and XP on your system.[/color]
Yes I would know. was a MS tech beta tester for 8 years. although it was Win 95 to ME
No experience on XP or Vista. Frankly I forgot a lot.
I'm in my golden years.
[color=blue]
>You mention USB drives are these the small USB disks or are we talking about
>200 to 400GB full hard drives. When I say remove USB hardware I mean just
>that. Unplug every USB item you have. Once again if you have a USB
>keyboard/mouse then see if you can borrow a standard PS/2 keyboard/mouse
>from a friend to allow you to install Vista again.[/color]
I do have a USB 500 GB,a USB 8 GB flash drive and a USB laser mouse.
I do have a standard keyboard that I can use and I forgot to disconnect the USB mouse. BUT that didn't stop the Clean
install from working also had the other two connected.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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