I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like list
can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?

In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have an
Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the left.
This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any choice
here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
wrong.

You can try the following:

[url]http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-favorite-links-panel-in-windows-vista-explorer/[/url]

Hope that helps.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
> with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like list
> can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
> remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
>
> In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
> consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have
> an
> Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the left.
> This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
> through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
> choice
> here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
> wrong.
>[/color]

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:00:17 -0400, "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
>with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like list
>can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
>remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
>
>In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
>consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have an
>Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the left.
>This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
>through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any choice
>here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
>wrong.[/color]

If Explorer would always "remember" the settings you told it to use it
would be better. Still Explorer has improved a good deal over XP. You
need to try various combinations under Organize and Views to get the
look you like. If you're still not happy, there are many third party
alternatives. I can't offer any since I haven't looked for them and
think this is one area Windows has improved. Of course change is sure
to always upset some. That's life.

Sorry didn't check it out completely, this doesn't help you ... just removes
all of it.

You can minimize the folders in there to make it smaller ... just drag the
folders out of it and that should remove them (making the favorite links
section smaller ... as a work around for now).

Hope that helps.


"Franksta" <franksta@xfale.com> wrote in message
news:D50355C8-9A00-4C9E-9EE2-2B62F60EAD87@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> You can try the following:
>
> [url]http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-favorite-links-panel-in-windows-vista-explorer/[/url]
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
>> with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like list
>> can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
>> remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
>>
>> In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
>> consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have
>> an
>> Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the
>> left.
>> This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
>> through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
>> choice
>> here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
>> wrong.
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Try this solution out. Appears to work ...

[url]http://www.vista64.net/forums/vista-installation-setup/52568-removing-favorite-links-explorer.html[/url]

Just drag the top of the Folders section up to the top :) gets the desired
result.


Hope that helps.


"Franksta" <franksta@xfale.com> wrote in message
news:D50355C8-9A00-4C9E-9EE2-2B62F60EAD87@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> You can try the following:
>
> [url]http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-favorite-links-panel-in-windows-vista-explorer/[/url]
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
>> with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like list
>> can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
>> remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
>>
>> In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
>> consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have
>> an
>> Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the
>> left.
>> This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
>> through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
>> choice
>> here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
>> wrong.
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Click on Organize -> Layout and click on Navigation Pane.


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I'm not at the Vista computer right now, but these steps seem to remove just
the "Favorites Bar" or "Navigation Pane." (BTW, it's confusing that the
same item has two such different and mismatching names.) Removing the
Favorites Pane apparently leaves the "Folders section" (which used to be
called Explorer--another confusing thing) in place. What's the advantage of
just removing the Favorites Links pane if the same area is just taken up
with the Folders section? The effect is still to reduce the usable area of
the folder.

What I'd like is to remove the entire left-hand pane, consisting of both the
Favorites bar and the folders section (not necessarily always, but when I
want to) in order to have a simple folder that consists of just a folder
window. In other words, like Windows 98 in the "non-Explorer" view. Is
this possible?




"Franksta" <franksta@xfale.com> wrote in message
news:D50355C8-9A00-4C9E-9EE2-2B62F60EAD87@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> You can try the following:
>
>[/color]
[url]http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-favorite-links-panel-in-windows-vista-explorer/[/url][color=blue]
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
> > with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like[/color][/color]
list[color=blue][color=green]
> > can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
> > remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
> >
> > In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
> > consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have
> > an
> > Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the[/color][/color]
left.[color=blue][color=green]
> > This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
> > through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
> > choice
> > here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
> > wrong.
> >[/color]
>[/color]

Tool Bar: Organize>Layout de-select Navigation Pane

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message news:uIuEzaGgHHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I'm not at the Vista computer right now, but these steps seem to remove just
> the "Favorites Bar" or "Navigation Pane." (BTW, it's confusing that the
> same item has two such different and mismatching names.) Removing the
> Favorites Pane apparently leaves the "Folders section" (which used to be
> called Explorer--another confusing thing) in place. What's the advantage of
> just removing the Favorites Links pane if the same area is just taken up
> with the Folders section? The effect is still to reduce the usable area of
> the folder.
>
> What I'd like is to remove the entire left-hand pane, consisting of both the
> Favorites bar and the folders section (not necessarily always, but when I
> want to) in order to have a simple folder that consists of just a folder
> window. In other words, like Windows 98 in the "non-Explorer" view. Is
> this possible?
>
>
>
>
> "Franksta" <franksta@xfale.com> wrote in message
> news:D50355C8-9A00-4C9E-9EE2-2B62F60EAD87@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> You can try the following:
>>
>>[/color]
> [url]http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-favorite-links-panel-in-windows-vista-explorer/[/url][color=green]
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>> > I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
>> > with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like[/color][/color]
> list[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
>> > remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
>> >
>> > In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
>> > consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have
>> > an
>> > Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the[/color][/color]
> left.[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
>> > through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
>> > choice
>> > here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
>> > wrong.
>> >[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Also, I see that in Windows 98, in any folder, Ctrl+I toggles the Favorites
pane, and Ctrl+H toggles the History Pane. The Explorer pane can also be
toggled, but not with a single keystroke.

Does Vista have assigned keystrokes for the equivalent functions?

In fact, in W98, even if you open a folder in the Explorer view, you can
still return it to the (there's never been a term for this) "plain folder"
view.



"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uIuEzaGgHHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I'm not at the Vista computer right now, but these steps seem to remove[/color]
just[color=blue]
> the "Favorites Bar" or "Navigation Pane." (BTW, it's confusing that the
> same item has two such different and mismatching names.) Removing the
> Favorites Pane apparently leaves the "Folders section" (which used to be
> called Explorer--another confusing thing) in place. What's the advantage[/color]
of[color=blue]
> just removing the Favorites Links pane if the same area is just taken up
> with the Folders section? The effect is still to reduce the usable area[/color]
of[color=blue]
> the folder.
>
> What I'd like is to remove the entire left-hand pane, consisting of both[/color]
the[color=blue]
> Favorites bar and the folders section (not necessarily always, but when I
> want to) in order to have a simple folder that consists of just a folder
> window. In other words, like Windows 98 in the "non-Explorer" view. Is
> this possible?
>
>
>
>
> "Franksta" <franksta@xfale.com> wrote in message
> news:D50355C8-9A00-4C9E-9EE2-2B62F60EAD87@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> > You can try the following:
> >
> >[/color]
>[/color]
[url]http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-favorite-links-panel-in-windows-vista-explorer/[/url][color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> > news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows[/color][/color][/color]
Vista[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like[/color][/color]
> list[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc.[/color][/color][/color]
always[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
> > >
> > > In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills[/color][/color][/color]
folder,[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could[/color][/color][/color]
have[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > an
> > > Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the[/color][/color]
> left.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
> > > through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
> > > choice
> > > here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope[/color][/color][/color]
I'm[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > wrong.
> > >[/color]
> >[/color]
>[/color]

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
> with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like list
> can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
> remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
>
> In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
> consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have
> an
> Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the left.
> This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
> through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
> choice
> here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
> wrong.
>[/color]



All I did was click on the border between those useless "shortcuts" and
the folder list and drag it up out of sight. Haven't been bothered by them
since.


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Bruce: I just answered another post on the same subject. If you want to get
rid of it completely instead of sliding it out of the way, go to
Organize>Layout and click on "Navigation pane." That is, UNclick navigation
pane.

Actually I don't mind that pane. You can customize it. So if there are
folders where you frequently move or copy files to (say, like an external
HDD) you can add that to the pane and just drag files over to it. And if you
click on that drive in the pane, it will open it. I think that's pretty
neat. I also added recycle bin to that pane. Can drag files to it to kill
them and can click on it to open the recycle bin.

But I realize people's work modes differ considerably and some would prefer
not to have it.


"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:Op%23AVTJgHHA.4064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows Vista
>> with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like list
>> can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc. always
>> remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
>>
>> In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills folder,
>> consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could have
>> an
>> Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the
>> left.
>> This was very good. There were different ways of using and navigating
>> through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer any
>> choice
>> here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope I'm
>> wrong.
>>[/color]
>
>
>
> All I did was click on the border between those useless "shortcuts" and
> the folder list and drag it up out of sight. Haven't been bothered by
> them since.
>
>
> --
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> [url]http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm[/url]
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>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
> Russell[/color]

I just got around to trying this out. Yes, under "Organize," and then
something else on that menu, you can unselect the Navigation bar and that
dismisses both lists giving you a plain folder with no left pane.

Why this feature is in a special menu (it's not a regular menu) called
"Organize," instead of something more appropriate like View, I can't
imagine. "Organize" suggests organizing stuff inside a folder, not
controlling the basic view of the folder.

..


"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OwOguiGgHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Also, I see that in Windows 98, in any folder, Ctrl+I toggles the[/color]
Favorites[color=blue]
> pane, and Ctrl+H toggles the History Pane. The Explorer pane can also be
> toggled, but not with a single keystroke.
>
> Does Vista have assigned keystrokes for the equivalent functions?
>
> In fact, in W98, even if you open a folder in the Explorer view, you can
> still return it to the (there's never been a term for this) "plain folder"
> view.
>
>
>
> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> news:uIuEzaGgHHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > I'm not at the Vista computer right now, but these steps seem to remove[/color]
> just[color=green]
> > the "Favorites Bar" or "Navigation Pane." (BTW, it's confusing that the
> > same item has two such different and mismatching names.) Removing the
> > Favorites Pane apparently leaves the "Folders section" (which used to be
> > called Explorer--another confusing thing) in place. What's the[/color][/color]
advantage[color=blue]
> of[color=green]
> > just removing the Favorites Links pane if the same area is just taken up
> > with the Folders section? The effect is still to reduce the usable area[/color]
> of[color=green]
> > the folder.
> >
> > What I'd like is to remove the entire left-hand pane, consisting of both[/color]
> the[color=green]
> > Favorites bar and the folders section (not necessarily always, but when[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> > want to) in order to have a simple folder that consists of just a folder
> > window. In other words, like Windows 98 in the "non-Explorer" view. Is
> > this possible?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Franksta" <franksta@xfale.com> wrote in message
> > news:D50355C8-9A00-4C9E-9EE2-2B62F60EAD87@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
> > > You can try the following:
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >[/color]
>[/color]
[url]http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/disable-favorite-links-panel-in-windows-vista-explorer/[/url][color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > >
> > > "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:OHfOliEgHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > > I've been unable to get rid of that list in each folder in Windows[/color][/color]
> Vista[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > with stuff like Pictures, Music, etc. I see how the "Explorer"-like[/color]
> > list[color=darkred]
> > > > can be displayed or hidden, but the list above it with Music etc.[/color][/color]
> always[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > remains. Does MS give the user no choice about this?
> > > >
> > > > In older versions of Windows, you could have a plain, no-frills[/color][/color]
> folder,[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > consisting of just the folder window and its contents, or you could[/color][/color]
> have[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > an
> > > > Explorer-window, consisting of a folder and the explorer tree on the[/color]
> > left.[color=darkred]
> > > > This was very good. There were different ways of using and[/color][/color][/color]
navigating[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > through the Windows environment. But Vista doesn't seem to offer[/color][/color][/color]
any[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > choice
> > > > here. Vista won't allow you to have a plain folder window. I hope[/color][/color]
> I'm[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > wrong.
> > > >
> > >[/color]
> >[/color]
>[/color]