I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?

Hi Steve,

There are only two real solutions:

1) Use a third party boot manager like BootIT NG that can hide each OS's
installation volume from the other when booted.

2) Run Vista Ultimate and install and use Bitlocker.

If XP can access the Vista volume in any way, it will destroy the restore
points regardless of whether or not System Restore is running.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
[url]http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/[/url]
Windows help - [url]www.rickrogers.org[/url]

"Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:euP0GV1fHHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
>none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?[/color]

I second Rick's post. Lots of posts claiming another solution, but there
are only the two ways to be sure. The others are doubtful at best.

"Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:euP0GV1fHHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
>none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?[/color]

that unfortunately is not optimal for me right now as I only have those
drives and I dual boot for functionality that I lost in Vista. Some of my
programs still do not have Vista versions. If XP can't see Vistas drive it
defeats my purpose. I do plan on wiping the XP system and reinstalling
Vista clean when I am satisfied with it (probably after SP1 comes out for
Vista and SP3 for XP (so I can install it and ghost the drive for future
use)) so for now I guess I SOL. Thanks for the info. it is appreciated.


"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:uLm%23XD2fHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I second Rick's post. Lots of posts claiming another solution, but there
>are only the two ways to be sure. The others are doubtful at best.
>
> "Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:euP0GV1fHHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
>>none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?[/color]
>[/color]

> If XP can't see Vistas drive it defeats my purpose.

Why is that?

/Steve/ said:[color=blue]
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:uLm%23XD2fHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>
>> "Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying
>>> issue[/color][/color][/color]
but[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?[/color]
>>
>> I second Rick's post. Lots of posts claiming another solution, but
>>[/color][/color]
there[color=blue][color=green]
>> are only the two ways to be sure. The others are doubtful at best.
>>[/color]
>
> That unfortunately is not optimal for me right now as I only have
> those drives and I dual boot for functionality that I lost in Vista.
> Some of my programs still do not have Vista versions. If XP can't see
> Vistas drive it defeats my purpose. I do plan on wiping the XP
> system and reinstalling Vista clean when I am satisfied with it
> (probably after SP1 comes out for Vista and SP3 for XP (so I can
> install it and ghost the drive for future use)) so for now I guess I
> SOL. Thanks for the info. it is appreciated.[/color]

One approach is the use of an imaging utility, so you can be little
concerned with the loss of Vista's own shadow copies/back up.

Here, XP and Vista are are each on their own partitioned drives, and
each sees the other's drive. Image back ups are made to the second
partition on the XP drive, the drive on which the back up utility is
installed.

Because I do not what to have duplicate files for both Vista and XP. There
are things I do on XP that I cant do on Vista such as our digital pictures.
We use Vueprint 8.0 on XP to view our pictures. I have tried the Vista
utility and found it lacking. Other things are stiching my cameras video
files together. I use a program in XP that does not work in Vista. Another
thing was Nero did not work in Vista right away so I had to boot back to XP
to burn my disc's. Don't get me started about Vista's lame attempt at CD
burning.

So, in short, there are things that I need to do that can only work in XP
and the files might be in the Vista drive. If XP cant see the Vista drive,
then how do I access the files.
"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23kgso73fHHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green]
>> If XP can't see Vistas drive it defeats my purpose.[/color]
>
> Why is that?
>
>[/color]

With Bit Locker your pc needs to be TPM compatible, if not a recommended
group policy change and use of a usb thumb drive is required to store the
encryption key. You can read more about it here:
[url]http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/6035e2fd-ee50-4b74-9bfb-6c27bb6bf2201033.mspx[/url]

"Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:e%23V7gq3fHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> that unfortunately is not optimal for me right now as I only have those
> drives and I dual boot for functionality that I lost in Vista. Some of my
> programs still do not have Vista versions. If XP can't see Vistas drive it
> defeats my purpose. I do plan on wiping the XP system and reinstalling
> Vista clean when I am satisfied with it (probably after SP1 comes out for
> Vista and SP3 for XP (so I can install it and ghost the drive for future
> use)) so for now I guess I SOL. Thanks for the info. it is appreciated.
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:uLm%23XD2fHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>>I second Rick's post. Lots of posts claiming another solution, but there
>>are only the two ways to be sure. The others are doubtful at best.
>>
>> "Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:euP0GV1fHHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
>>>I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
>>>none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Steve

BootIt NG is not that expensive and a good investment.

Using BootIt NG you can have data partitions seen by both operating
systems. You just prevent the operating systems from seeing the
others partition.
[url]http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html[/url]


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:e%23V7gq3fHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> that unfortunately is not optimal for me right now as I only have
> those drives and I dual boot for functionality that I lost in
> Vista. Some of my programs still do not have Vista versions. If XP
> can't see Vistas drive it defeats my purpose. I do plan on wiping
> the XP system and reinstalling Vista clean when I am satisfied
> with it (probably after SP1 comes out for Vista and SP3 for XP (so
> I can install it and ghost the drive for future use)) so for now I
> guess I SOL. Thanks for the info. it is appreciated.
>
>
>[/color]

Put the data files in a third partition.

Gary VanderMolen

"Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message news:enAr1W4fHHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Because I do not what to have duplicate files for both Vista and XP. There are things I do on XP that I cant do on Vista such as
> our digital pictures. We use Vueprint 8.0 on XP to view our pictures. I have tried the Vista utility and found it lacking. Other
> things are stiching my cameras video files together. I use a program in XP that does not work in Vista. Another thing was Nero
> did not work in Vista right away so I had to boot back to XP to burn my disc's. Don't get me started about Vista's lame attempt
> at CD burning.
>
> So, in short, there are things that I need to do that can only work in XP and the files might be in the Vista drive. If XP cant
> see the Vista drive, then how do I access the files.
> "DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message news:%23kgso73fHHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> If XP can't see Vistas drive it defeats my purpose.[/color]
>>
>> Why is that?[/color][/color]

And seems always to be on the leading edge. They seem always to have the
first compatible version available when Microsoft makes changes.

"Gerry Cornell" <gcjcvis@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23hHeB$4fHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Steve
>
> BootIt NG is not that expensive and a good investment.
>
> Using BootIt NG you can have data partitions seen by both operating
> systems. You just prevent the operating systems from seeing the others
> partition.
> [url]http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html[/url]
>
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "Steve" <jedi105@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:e%23V7gq3fHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> that unfortunately is not optimal for me right now as I only have those
>> drives and I dual boot for functionality that I lost in Vista. Some of my
>> programs still do not have Vista versions. If XP can't see Vistas drive
>> it defeats my purpose. I do plan on wiping the XP system and
>> reinstalling Vista clean when I am satisfied with it (probably after SP1
>> comes out for Vista and SP3 for XP (so I can install it and ghost the
>> drive for future use)) so for now I guess I SOL. Thanks for the info. it
>> is appreciated.
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

Hi.
I've read nearly all the posts on this subject.
I recall seeing one that said that you could make Vista store, as the
default, it's System Restore files onto an external Hard Drive. Then, if you
switch off the external drive before XP is booted, you retain the Vista
restore points but can 'see' the Vista partitions.
Great..........
Can anyone guide me to where, in Vista, is the option to change the location
of System restore files ?
And.............will it work?...........I think it should do.
Thanks
Morrisg

"Steve" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
> none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?
>
>[/color]

I have never heard of an option to change the location of the
restore points. I doubt it is possible. Also you should not monitor
external removable drives!

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"morrisg" <morrisg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:64BCB1DA-6172-46F4-BA33-F4055F34AC53@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Hi.
> I've read nearly all the posts on this subject.
> I recall seeing one that said that you could make Vista store, as
> the
> default, it's System Restore files onto an external Hard Drive.
> Then, if you
> switch off the external drive before XP is booted, you retain the
> Vista
> restore points but can 'see' the Vista partitions.
> Great..........
> Can anyone guide me to where, in Vista, is the option to change
> the location
> of System restore files ?
> And.............will it work?...........I think it should do.
> Thanks
> Morrisg
>
> "Steve" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying
>> issue but
>> none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?
>>
>>[/color][/color]

"morrisg" <morrisg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:64BCB1DA-6172-46F4-BA33-F4055F34AC53@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Hi.
> I've read nearly all the posts on this subject.
> I recall seeing one that said that you could make Vista store, as the
> default, it's System Restore files onto an external Hard Drive. Then, if
> you
> switch off the external drive before XP is booted, you retain the Vista
> restore points but can 'see' the Vista partitions.
> Great..........
> Can anyone guide me to where, in Vista, is the option to change the
> location
> of System restore files ?
> And.............will it work?...........I think it should do.
> Thanks
> Morrisg
>
> "Steve" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
>> none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?[/color][/color]

I was hoping the following would do it, but I think it amounts to little
more than the TweakUI non-fix:

Start>Run>Gpedit.msc>User Configuration>Administrative Templates>Windows
Components >Windows Explorer

Once there, configure "Prevent access to drives from My Computer."

While that even goes as far as to prevent users from using the Run box or
even network mapping the exclusion, it doesn't prevent other programs from
accessing it nor Disk Management, so XP itself will have no problem doing
so.

I find it hard to believe that there's nothing that can be done in XP to
really deny access to a drive to one and all (not speaking of boot managers
here or encyryption, but a simple mod to XP), but so far that seems to be
the case.

What's the big deal. XP and Vista utilize two different restore utilities -
one result is that when you boot into XP the Vista restore points are
"removed" - if setups are running OK (no need for old restore pints) when
you boot into Vista just create a new restore point!

"Gerry Cornell" <gcjcvis@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eoyc2qchHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>I have never heard of an option to change the location of the restore
>points. I doubt it is possible. Also you should not monitor external
>removable drives!
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "morrisg" <morrisg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:64BCB1DA-6172-46F4-BA33-F4055F34AC53@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Hi.
>> I've read nearly all the posts on this subject.
>> I recall seeing one that said that you could make Vista store, as the
>> default, it's System Restore files onto an external Hard Drive. Then, if
>> you
>> switch off the external drive before XP is booted, you retain the Vista
>> restore points but can 'see' the Vista partitions.
>> Great..........
>> Can anyone guide me to where, in Vista, is the option to change the
>> location
>> of System restore files ?
>> And.............will it work?...........I think it should do.
>> Thanks
>> Morrisg
>>
>> "Steve" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I have read online several "fixes" for this extremely annoying issue but
>>> none have worked. Any ideas how to stop this from happening?
>>>
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]