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Old 01-02-2007, 10:41 AM
Terry Zhong
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UAC vs WinRAR

On my Vista RTM I installed WinRAR 3.61, UAC asked my permission for the
first time and then let go. When I upgraded WinRAR to 3.62 today(uninst then
clean install), UAC won't let go any more. Each time I run WinRAR UAC asks my
password... I hate this and wonder why this time UAC didn't ask for just one
time?
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:42 AM
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RE: UAC vs WinRAR

Have you tried running WinRAR once as the administrator?
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Old 01-02-2007, 10:42 AM
Terry Zhong
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RE: UAC vs WinRAR

Yes, but no use. And now I see WinRAR.exe and Uninstall.exe in explorer with
a UAC shield, so whoever run it, admin or not, UAC will ask for promotion.
Any way to set WinRAR.exe as a trusted program? Why it has a UAC shield on it?

"David Wright" wrote:

> Have you tried running WinRAR once as the administrator?

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Old 01-02-2007, 10:42 AM
Kenneth
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RE: UAC vs WinRAR

yes, and the "extract to" function in the right click manu doesn't work.
seems like some problems of winrar3.62.
maybe it'll be solved in 3.63

"Terry Zhong" wrote:

> Yes, but no use. And now I see WinRAR.exe and Uninstall.exe in explorer with
> a UAC shield, so whoever run it, admin or not, UAC will ask for promotion.
> Any way to set WinRAR.exe as a trusted program? Why it has a UAC shield on it?
>
> "David Wright" wrote:
>
> > Have you tried running WinRAR once as the administrator?

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Old 01-02-2007, 10:42 AM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: UAC vs WinRAR

Have you researched at http://www.win-rar.com/winrarsupport.html? I would
email them and ask them about this. It sounds to me like it is how WinRAR
is written.

"Terry Zhong" <TerryZhong@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:014C235F-5F63-445D-84D2-109B3872A2AD@microsoft.com...
> Yes, but no use. And now I see WinRAR.exe and Uninstall.exe in explorer
> with
> a UAC shield, so whoever run it, admin or not, UAC will ask for promotion.
> Any way to set WinRAR.exe as a trusted program? Why it has a UAC shield on
> it?
>
> "David Wright" wrote:
>
>> Have you tried running WinRAR once as the administrator?


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:42 AM
Bill
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Re: UAC vs WinRAR

> "Terry Zhong" <TerryZhong@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:014C235F-5F63-445D-84D2-109B3872A2AD@microsoft.com...
>> Yes, but no use. And now I see WinRAR.exe and Uninstall.exe in
>> explorer with
>> a UAC shield, so whoever run it, admin or not, UAC will ask for
>> promotion.
>> Any way to set WinRAR.exe as a trusted program? Why it has a UAC
>> shield on it?
>>
>> "David Wright" wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried running WinRAR once as the administrator?



I have WinRar installed (v3.51 previously and now v3.61) and UAC does
not block WinRar.exe, however the uninstall is blocked as it should be
in Vista. I haven't tried v3.62 yet and won't bother until I blow away
this install of Vista and re-install (no urgent need to upgrade
WinRar).

What version of WinRar are you using?

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Old 01-02-2007, 10:42 AM
Robert Moir
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Re: UAC vs WinRAR

Terry Zhong wrote:
> On my Vista RTM I installed WinRAR 3.61, UAC asked my permission for
> the first time and then let go. When I upgraded WinRAR to 3.62
> today(uninst then clean install), UAC won't let go any more. Each
> time I run WinRAR UAC asks my password... I hate this and wonder why
> this time UAC didn't ask for just one time?


This is probably a question best put to the developers of WinRAR. Clearly
they've changed something that Vista would rather they had not.


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Old 01-02-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: UAC vs WinRAR

Terry Zhong wrote:
> On my Vista RTM I installed WinRAR 3.61, UAC asked my permission for the
> first time and then let go. When I upgraded WinRAR to 3.62 today(uninst then
> clean install), UAC won't let go any more. Each time I run WinRAR UAC asks my
> password... I hate this and wonder why this time UAC didn't ask for just one
> time?


I found a two-stage solution for the problem (also notified Eugene
Roshal, the maker of WinRar: he replied that a beta of a new WinRar
with full Vista support is to be expected in january).

First of all, you have to downgrade to version 3.61 again, to make the
new 3.62 problems disappear.

If you don't have the 3.61 setup anymore, you can find it at
http://www.filehippo.com/download_winrar/?1554


3.61 does have another issue though: it can't find its regstration
info (alwasy starts up in 30-day trial mode) unless it's started as
administrator, and that requires a confirmation each time, which is
something we don't want.

The reason is that Vista protects *.key files, you need administrator
access to be able to open them.

The solution to that problem requires some tinkering:

- locate the file "rarreg.key" in your winrar directory.
- create a copy of it, name it "rarreg.kex".
- create a backup copy of winrar.exe
- find a hex file editor
- use it to open winrar.exe (start the editor as administrator, or you
won't be able to save).
- locate the first occurrence of the ANSI string ".key"
- change it to ".kex" and save.
Done.


As hex editor you can use Axe, http://www.jbrowse.com/products/axe/
Disclaimer: I'm still using Axe version 2.1 from 1998, didn't even
know that a newer version existed until I googled for a download link
to put in this post (Axe development was stopped years ago, but
apparently the author picked it back up in 2004 or so).
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:40 AM
Lucvdv
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Re: UAC vs WinRAR

Terry Zhong wrote:
> On my Vista RTM I installed WinRAR 3.61, UAC asked my permission for the
> first time and then let go. When I upgraded WinRAR to 3.62 today(uninst then
> clean install), UAC won't let go any more. Each time I run WinRAR UAC asks my
> password... I hate this and wonder why this time UAC didn't ask for just one
> time?


I found a two-stage solution for the problem (also notified Eugene
Roshal, the maker of WinRar: he replied that a beta of a new WinRar
with full Vista support is to be expected in january).

First of all, you have to downgrade to version 3.61 again, to make the
new 3.62 problems disappear.

If you don't have the 3.61 setup anymore, you can find it at
http://www.filehippo.com/download_winrar/?1554


3.61 does have another issue though: it can't find its regstration
info (alwasy starts up in 30-day trial mode) unless it's started as
administrator, and that requires a confirmation each time, which is
something we don't want.

The reason is that Vista protects *.key files, you need administrator
access to be able to open them.

The solution to that problem requires some tinkering:

- locate the file "rarreg.key" in your winrar directory.
- create a copy of it, name it "rarreg.kex".
- create a backup copy of winrar.exe
- find a hex file editor
- use it to open winrar.exe (start the editor as administrator, or you
won't be able to save).
- locate the first occurrence of the ANSI string ".key"
- change it to ".kex" and save.
Done.


As hex editor you can use Axe, http://www.jbrowse.com/products/axe/
Disclaimer: I'm still using Axe version 2.1 from 1998, didn't even
know that a newer version existed until I googled for a download link
to put in this post (Axe development was stopped years ago, but
apparently the author picked it back up in 2004 or so).
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:42 AM
Lucvdv
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Re: UAC vs WinRAR

Lucvdv wrote:

> The solution to that problem requires some tinkering:


Good news: it doesn't!

I just got another reply from Eugene Roshal, where he says:

| Besides, you do not need to patch winrar.exe. It considers
| all rarreg.* files as registration keys, so rarreg.kex is ok
| even without patching.
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Re: UAC vs WinRAR

Lucvdv wrote:

> The solution to that problem requires some tinkering:


Good news: it doesn't!

I just got another reply from Eugene Roshal, where he says:

| Besides, you do not need to patch winrar.exe. It considers
| all rarreg.* files as registration keys, so rarreg.kex is ok
| even without patching.
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