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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
Anders Bengtsson
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4 GB of memory

Hi

Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).

How can I make Vista see all my RAM?

Thanks

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blog: http://www.contoso.se


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: 4 GB of memory

The rest is being used by your video card.


"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).
>
> How can I make Vista see all my RAM?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> Regards
> Anders Bengtsson [MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CNA] | anders AT contoso.se | Website
> and blog: http://www.contoso.se
>
>



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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
Anders Bengtsson
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Re: 4 GB of memory

My video card has its own 512Mb of memory and I have only started Vista, Iam
not doing anything
that should take 1GB of video memory.

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blog: http://www.contoso.se


"Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote in message
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> The rest is being used by your video card.
>
>
> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
> news:uakkkMLGHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
>> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
>> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).
>>
>> How can I make Vista see all my RAM?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>> Anders Bengtsson [MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CNA] | anders AT contoso.se | Website
>> and blog: http://www.contoso.se
>>
>>

>
>


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: 4 GB of memory

What video card?
Some do appropriate system RAM.
You don't have to be "doing anything", other than starting Windows.

"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
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| My video card has its own 512Mb of memory and I have only started Vista, Iam
| not doing anything
| that should take 1GB of video memory.
|
| --
|
| Regards
| Anders Bengtsson [MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CNA] | anders AT contoso.se | Website and
| blog: http://www.contoso.se
|
|
| "Gary" <Gary@somewhere.usa> wrote in message
| news:ugIcrSLGHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > The rest is being used by your video card.
| >
| >
| > "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
| > news:uakkkMLGHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| >> Hi
| >>
| >> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
| >> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
| >> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).
| >>
| >> How can I make Vista see all my RAM?
| >>
| >> Thanks
| >>
| >> --
| >>
| >> Regards
| >> Anders Bengtsson [MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CNA] | anders AT contoso.se | Website
| >> and blog: http://www.contoso.se
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|


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Re: 4 GB of memory

"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
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> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).
>
> How can I make Vista see all my RAM?


The whole 32-bit address space will not be available to just the OS,
hardware in the machine etc will munch into it too.

The only way to get it all would be to use the 64-bit version.

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Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/
Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/

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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
Frantz Dhin
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Re: 4 GB of memory

It is the same deal as in 32 bit Windows XP.
It is actually not the video card taking up the RAM. It is mainly the
PCI-Express bus taking up the I/O adresses from the 4GB (32 bit) address
space that the CPU can address. A few other things also occupy I/O
addresses, but the PCI-E bus is the main factor.
Nothing to do about it except using 64 bit CPU and a 64 bit OS.

Regards,
Frantz Dhin

Anders Bengtsson wrote:
> My video card has its own 512Mb of memory and I have only started Vista,
> Iam not doing anything
> that should take 1GB of video memory.
>

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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: 4 GB of memory

Yes, I believe this is a limitation of all 32-bit OSs (2 to the 32nd power)
I get 3071 with Vista x86 and 4000+ with Vista x64

"Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message
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| "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
| news:uakkkMLGHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|
| > Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
| > I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
| > But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).
| >
| > How can I make Vista see all my RAM?
|
| The whole 32-bit address space will not be available to just the OS,
| hardware in the machine etc will munch into it too.
|
| The only way to get it all would be to use the 64-bit version.
|
| --
| Paul Smith,
| Yeovil, UK.
| Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
| http://www.windowsresource.net/
| Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/
|
| *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
|
|


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
Anders Bengtsson
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Re: 4 GB of memory


I thought there was some nice /3Gb settings to do somewhere.
Like BCDEdit with IncreaseUserVA?

--

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Anders Bengtsson [MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CNA] | anders AT contoso.se | Website and
blog: http://www.contoso.se


"Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message
news:981FAD8F-6984-4BAE-A6A1-1D0FAF675BD6@microsoft.com...
> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
> news:uakkkMLGHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
>> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
>> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).
>>
>> How can I make Vista see all my RAM?

>
> The whole 32-bit address space will not be available to just the OS,
> hardware in the machine etc will munch into it too.
>
> The only way to get it all would be to use the 64-bit version.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
> Get ready for Windows Vista: http://www.windowsvista.com/getready/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>


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Re: 4 GB of memory

"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
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> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).


AAMOI, does it have either an ASUS motherboard and/or use the Intel 865PE
chipset...?


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: 4 GB of memory

I have a ASUS S939 A8N-SLI Premium motherboard, I thin it is with a nforce
chip.

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blog: http://www.contoso.se


"Mark Rae" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.com> wrote in message
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> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
> news:uakkkMLGHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
>> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
>> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).

>
> AAMOI, does it have either an ASUS motherboard and/or use the Intel 865PE
> chipset...?


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Re: 4 GB of memory

"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
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>I have a ASUS S939 A8N-SLI Premium motherboard


Thought so. What your seeing is a fairly well-known bug whereby ASUS
motherboards don't correctly report 4GB RAM, although they do actually use
it all - don't worry about it.

AAMOI, if you remove two of the RAM sticks, it will correctly report 2Gb...
:-)


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Re: 4 GB of memory

4+GB is reported in Vista x64


"Mark Rae" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.com> wrote in message news:eCwLBNMGHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
| news:%23NMxhpLGHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|
| >I have a ASUS S939 A8N-SLI Premium motherboard
|
| Thought so. What your seeing is a fairly well-known bug whereby ASUS
| motherboards don't correctly report 4GB RAM, although they do actually use
| it all - don't worry about it.
|
| AAMOI, if you remove two of the RAM sticks, it will correctly report 2Gb...
| :-)
|
|


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: 4 GB of memory

But if you had 4 sticks of 512 DDR400 it would run them at DDR333 speeds,
isn't the nforce 4 chipset/AMD memory controller brilliant.

Colin T
"Mark Rae" <mark@markNOSPAMrae.com> wrote in message
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> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
> news:%23NMxhpLGHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>>I have a ASUS S939 A8N-SLI Premium motherboard

>
> Thought so. What your seeing is a fairly well-known bug whereby ASUS
> motherboards don't correctly report 4GB RAM, although they do actually use
> it all - don't worry about it.
>
> AAMOI, if you remove two of the RAM sticks, it will correctly report
> 2Gb... :-)
>


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: 4 GB of memory

The 32 bit OS is just like the Windows 32 bit OS. You may have more memory
than 3 gig, but it will only register 3 gig. Note: from my understanding, it
doesn't mean that it isn't being used. From what I understand the system
will still use available memory that it doesn't register, but don't quote me
on that. You may want to ask the MVPs.

Hope this helps.


"Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Iam running Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
> I have installed 4x1GB RAM that I can see in my BIOS
> But in Vista I see only 3071 MB of memory (RAM).
>
> How can I make Vista see all my RAM?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> Regards
> Anders Bengtsson [MCSE, MCSA, MCP, CNA] | anders AT contoso.se | Website
> and blog: http://www.contoso.se
>
>


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Old 01-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: 4 GB of memory

Please read some of the other postings in this thread. The allegation
that this should be a "known issue" or a production flaw in any ASUS
motherboard is incorrect.
It is a known limitation to 32 bit architecture, or any CPU forced to
run in 32 bit mode by a 32 bit operating system, that it runs out of I/O
addresses before it can address a full 4GB of RAM. The PCI-E bus usually
takes about 750MB worth of I/O addresses alone.
Since the CPU can only address RAM to the extent that the machine has
available I/O addresses, some of the RAM will not be available to the
operating system. That does not at all mean that the RAM is in use by
these devices, - only the I/O addresses.

So to sum it up: It is not an ASUS issue. The RAM is not being used as
you incorrectly state. It will report 2GB RAM if you take out the two of
the RAM sticks because the machine has sufficient I/O addresses to
address all 2GB RAM.

Regards,
Frantz Dhin

Mark Rae wrote:
> "Anders Bengtsson" <anders@contoso.se> wrote in message
> news:%23NMxhpLGHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> I have a ASUS S939 A8N-SLI Premium motherboard

>
> Thought so. What your seeing is a fairly well-known bug whereby ASUS
> motherboards don't correctly report 4GB RAM, although they do actually use
> it all - don't worry about it.
>
> AAMOI, if you remove two of the RAM sticks, it will correctly report 2Gb...
> :-)
>
>

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