So you know for sure that when software creates an "MP3 disk" that there are
no playlists, metadata, tags or whatever that is stored in text content areas
on the CD that would differentiate it from a dumb data CD?? And when various
'MP3 disk' players go to play a 'dumb' data CD, they'll display all the MP3
data/playlists that they would when a so-called MP3 disk is played? I don't
know, I'm just asking... you see all the hype on devices that they play "MP3
disks"... and you see various CD's that some CD players display track info
for (instead of 'track 1', etc), IF the CD is created with text track info
written to the ('write' ;) area. So... 'MP3 disks' have -no- special text
data areas that differentiate them from dumb data disks?

"Mike Williams" wrote:

> VIMDC wrote:
> > Attention: a data-CD is not the same as an MP3-CD.
> > Such data-CD's won't play on many car or home MP3-systems as those need
> > playlist information.
> > Myself, I use iTunes or Nero (sic: not exactly the forum to mention this) to
> > make MP3-CD's. Many other programs support the function (wonder why
> > MediaPlayer does not). Just bad luck that I was unable to use my existing
> > MediaPlayer playlists and had to redo them all under iTunes. You won't
> > (logicaly) be able to burn protected music however.
>
> From a burning point of view they're identical, and you can make an
> MP3-only CD with Windows XP without WMP. OF course, playback experience
> differs from device to device: some won't play MP3s over a certain bitrate.
>

A MP3 disk is a data disk with a playlist in the playlist format that the
burning software understands - not always the same as what other software
understands.

I have a factory CD player in one vehicle and an aftermarket CD player in
another older vehicle. Both of them play data CDs containing MP3 files with
no problems. My DVD player in my entertainment system does as well. I
think any modern player will play either a data disk or a MP3 disk. You'll
have to read your device documentation to determine what type of playlists
your device may handle.

Dale

"RD" <RD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D9F8B7FB-3021-4EFD-8F95-D313177853EF@microsoft.com...
> So you know for sure that when software creates an "MP3 disk" that there
> are
> no playlists, metadata, tags or whatever that is stored in text content
> areas
> on the CD that would differentiate it from a dumb data CD?? And when
> various
> 'MP3 disk' players go to play a 'dumb' data CD, they'll display all the
> MP3
> data/playlists that they would when a so-called MP3 disk is played? I
> don't
> know, I'm just asking... you see all the hype on devices that they play
> "MP3
> disks"... and you see various CD's that some CD players display track info
> for (instead of 'track 1', etc), IF the CD is created with text track info
> written to the ('write' ;) area. So... 'MP3 disks' have -no- special text
> data areas that differentiate them from dumb data disks?
>
> "Mike Williams" wrote:
>
>> VIMDC wrote:
>> > Attention: a data-CD is not the same as an MP3-CD.
>> > Such data-CD's won't play on many car or home MP3-systems as those need
>> > playlist information.
>> > Myself, I use iTunes or Nero (sic: not exactly the forum to mention
>> > this) to
>> > make MP3-CD's. Many other programs support the function (wonder why
>> > MediaPlayer does not). Just bad luck that I was unable to use my
>> > existing
>> > MediaPlayer playlists and had to redo them all under iTunes. You won't
>> > (logicaly) be able to burn protected music however.
>>
>> From a burning point of view they're identical, and you can make an
>> MP3-only CD with Windows XP without WMP. OF course, playback experience
>> differs from device to device: some won't play MP3s over a certain
>> bitrate.
>>

See, I would take that to mean that there is a difference, between 'MP3 disk'
and data disk... that there is an 'MP3 playlist' written for 'MP3 disks'
....that 'MP3 disk' players understand and so display, which is what I
thought. But yes, a dumb data disk with MP3 files on it, usually plays as
well... but it's -not- an 'MP3 disk', as hyped by the ads. Some people may
want to make an 'MP3 disk' and have that display of track info... I know
it's convenient... and different from a dumb data disk with MP3's on it.
Thanks


"Dale" wrote:

> A MP3 disk is a data disk with a playlist in the playlist format that the
> burning software understands - not always the same as what other software
> understands.
>
> I have a factory CD player in one vehicle and an aftermarket CD player in
> another older vehicle. Both of them play data CDs containing MP3 files with
> no problems. My DVD player in my entertainment system does as well. I
> think any modern player will play either a data disk or a MP3 disk. You'll
> have to read your device documentation to determine what type of playlists
> your device may handle.
>
> Dale
>
> "RD" <RD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D9F8B7FB-3021-4EFD-8F95-D313177853EF@microsoft.com...
> > So you know for sure that when software creates an "MP3 disk" that there
> > are
> > no playlists, metadata, tags or whatever that is stored in text content
> > areas
> > on the CD that would differentiate it from a dumb data CD?? And when
> > various
> > 'MP3 disk' players go to play a 'dumb' data CD, they'll display all the
> > MP3
> > data/playlists that they would when a so-called MP3 disk is played? I
> > don't
> > know, I'm just asking... you see all the hype on devices that they play
> > "MP3
> > disks"... and you see various CD's that some CD players display track info
> > for (instead of 'track 1', etc), IF the CD is created with text track info
> > written to the ('write' ;) area. So... 'MP3 disks' have -no- special text
> > data areas that differentiate them from dumb data disks?
> >
> > "Mike Williams" wrote:
> >
> >> VIMDC wrote:
> >> > Attention: a data-CD is not the same as an MP3-CD.
> >> > Such data-CD's won't play on many car or home MP3-systems as those need
> >> > playlist information.
> >> > Myself, I use iTunes or Nero (sic: not exactly the forum to mention
> >> > this) to
> >> > make MP3-CD's. Many other programs support the function (wonder why
> >> > MediaPlayer does not). Just bad luck that I was unable to use my
> >> > existing
> >> > MediaPlayer playlists and had to redo them all under iTunes. You won't
> >> > (logicaly) be able to burn protected music however.
> >>
> >> From a burning point of view they're identical, and you can make an
> >> MP3-only CD with Windows XP without WMP. OF course, playback experience
> >> differs from device to device: some won't play MP3s over a certain
> >> bitrate.
> >>
>
>

It isn't the playlist that allows the display of track information. The
track information is embedded into the MP3 file in ID3 tags
(http://www.id3.org). The playlist, where recognized, only controls the
order of playback.

Dale

"RD" <RD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C534AA52-2644-432E-AD05-454542CEE800@microsoft.com...
> See, I would take that to mean that there is a difference, between 'MP3
> disk'
> and data disk... that there is an 'MP3 playlist' written for 'MP3 disks'
> ...that 'MP3 disk' players understand and so display, which is what I
> thought. But yes, a dumb data disk with MP3 files on it, usually plays as
> well... but it's -not- an 'MP3 disk', as hyped by the ads. Some people may
> want to make an 'MP3 disk' and have that display of track info... I know
> it's convenient... and different from a dumb data disk with MP3's on it.
> Thanks
>
>
> "Dale" wrote:
>
>> A MP3 disk is a data disk with a playlist in the playlist format that the
>> burning software understands - not always the same as what other software
>> understands.
>>
>> I have a factory CD player in one vehicle and an aftermarket CD player in
>> another older vehicle. Both of them play data CDs containing MP3 files
>> with
>> no problems. My DVD player in my entertainment system does as well. I
>> think any modern player will play either a data disk or a MP3 disk.
>> You'll
>> have to read your device documentation to determine what type of
>> playlists
>> your device may handle.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> "RD" <RD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D9F8B7FB-3021-4EFD-8F95-D313177853EF@microsoft.com...
>> > So you know for sure that when software creates an "MP3 disk" that
>> > there
>> > are
>> > no playlists, metadata, tags or whatever that is stored in text content
>> > areas
>> > on the CD that would differentiate it from a dumb data CD?? And when
>> > various
>> > 'MP3 disk' players go to play a 'dumb' data CD, they'll display all the
>> > MP3
>> > data/playlists that they would when a so-called MP3 disk is played? I
>> > don't
>> > know, I'm just asking... you see all the hype on devices that they play
>> > "MP3
>> > disks"... and you see various CD's that some CD players display track
>> > info
>> > for (instead of 'track 1', etc), IF the CD is created with text track
>> > info
>> > written to the ('write' ;) area. So... 'MP3 disks' have -no- special
>> > text
>> > data areas that differentiate them from dumb data disks?
>> >
>> > "Mike Williams" wrote:
>> >
>> >> VIMDC wrote:
>> >> > Attention: a data-CD is not the same as an MP3-CD.
>> >> > Such data-CD's won't play on many car or home MP3-systems as those
>> >> > need
>> >> > playlist information.
>> >> > Myself, I use iTunes or Nero (sic: not exactly the forum to mention
>> >> > this) to
>> >> > make MP3-CD's. Many other programs support the function (wonder why
>> >> > MediaPlayer does not). Just bad luck that I was unable to use my
>> >> > existing
>> >> > MediaPlayer playlists and had to redo them all under iTunes. You
>> >> > won't
>> >> > (logicaly) be able to burn protected music however.
>> >>
>> >> From a burning point of view they're identical, and you can make an
>> >> MP3-only CD with Windows XP without WMP. OF course, playback
>> >> experience
>> >> differs from device to device: some won't play MP3s over a certain
>> >> bitrate.
>> >>
>>
>>

Ok... I know about the tags... but not the officialness of the 'MP3 disk' and
format. Controlling playback order.... good.