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Old 04-12-2007, 04:30 PM
DanR
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue


"Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CA57998A-FC24-4005-B33E-978F5502237F@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>I am running dual monitors, and having a problem w/ the arrangment of the
> monitors. In Display Settings, I arrange Monitor 1 above Monitor 2. The
> settings take effect w/o any problems. However, if I lock the computer
> and
> then unlock it the settings go back to the default arrangements of the
> monitors being side-by-side.
>
> So is there a way to keep it from doing this or is there a way to change
> the
> default arrangement from side-by-side to top and bottom?
>
> Thank you in advance for you help![/color]

No answer but curious. Do you actually have your 2nd monitor physically over
your main monitor.

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Old 04-12-2007, 04:30 PM
Hutch
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Yes, I do. I am using a laptop with a screen above it.

"DanR" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CA57998A-FC24-4005-B33E-978F5502237F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
> >I am running dual monitors, and having a problem w/ the arrangment of the
> > monitors. In Display Settings, I arrange Monitor 1 above Monitor 2. The
> > settings take effect w/o any problems. However, if I lock the computer
> > and
> > then unlock it the settings go back to the default arrangements of the
> > monitors being side-by-side.
> >
> > So is there a way to keep it from doing this or is there a way to change
> > the
> > default arrangement from side-by-side to top and bottom?
> >
> > Thank you in advance for you help![/color]
>
> No answer but curious. Do you actually have your 2nd monitor physically over
> your main monitor.
>
>[/color]
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:30 PM
Steve Thackery
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Sounds like a genuine bug to me.

Does anyone know how to report bugs to the Vista team?

Thack


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Old 04-12-2007, 04:31 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Hutch

Ito could be the way that the installed driver is interacting with Vista..
try using a different version.. mine stays put whatever and I am using
nVidia driver 97.46.. you must be very short of space to have a screen above
a laptop.. I hope that it is fixed down or to the wall securely.. do you not
find that looking up at such close quarters is difficult?


"Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B721FDF5-C236-47A7-9399-AFFB05367AAD@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Yes, I do. I am using a laptop with a screen above it.
>
> "DanR" wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CA57998A-FC24-4005-B33E-978F5502237F@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I am running dual monitors, and having a problem w/ the arrangment of
>> >the
>> > monitors. In Display Settings, I arrange Monitor 1 above Monitor 2.
>> > The
>> > settings take effect w/o any problems. However, if I lock the computer
>> > and
>> > then unlock it the settings go back to the default arrangements of the
>> > monitors being side-by-side.
>> >
>> > So is there a way to keep it from doing this or is there a way to
>> > change
>> > the
>> > default arrangement from side-by-side to top and bottom?
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance for you help![/color]
>>
>> No answer but curious. Do you actually have your 2nd monitor physically
>> over
>> your main monitor.
>>
>>[/color][/color]

--


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MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 04-12-2007, 04:31 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Hutch

Ito could be the way that the installed driver is interacting with Vista..
try using a different version.. mine stays put whatever and I am using
nVidia driver 97.46.. you must be very short of space to have a screen above
a laptop.. I hope that it is fixed down or to the wall securely.. do you not
find that looking up at such close quarters is difficult?


"Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B721FDF5-C236-47A7-9399-AFFB05367AAD@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Yes, I do. I am using a laptop with a screen above it.
>
> "DanR" wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CA57998A-FC24-4005-B33E-978F5502237F@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I am running dual monitors, and having a problem w/ the arrangment of
>> >the
>> > monitors. In Display Settings, I arrange Monitor 1 above Monitor 2.
>> > The
>> > settings take effect w/o any problems. However, if I lock the computer
>> > and
>> > then unlock it the settings go back to the default arrangements of the
>> > monitors being side-by-side.
>> >
>> > So is there a way to keep it from doing this or is there a way to
>> > change
>> > the
>> > default arrangement from side-by-side to top and bottom?
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance for you help![/color]
>>
>> No answer but curious. Do you actually have your 2nd monitor physically
>> over
>> your main monitor.
>>
>>[/color][/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 04-12-2007, 04:31 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Dan..

Try the screens corner to corner as in diagonal, if you want some fun with
the mouse pointer.. :)


"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
news:e11seNIbHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Steve Thackery" <thack@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:%23PuSzvHbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> With respect, Mike, you obviously don't know anything about this. It is
>> NOT merely a representation of two monitors. When you move the little
>> monitor icons around it adjusts the relative co-ordinates of the two
>> screens in the OS.
>>
>> Placing one above the other - or below it - or to either side, moves the
>> LOGICAL position of the screens in Vista, which affects the desktop size
>> and shape.
>>
>> And yes, Vista should definitely remember where the relative positions of
>> the screens are.
>>
>> Mike, as an MS MVP you really shouldn't be making pronouncements in areas
>> you don't have expertise. It reflects badly on the rest of the MVP
>> community.
>>
>> Steve
>>[/color]
>
> I set my 2 monitors up this way just to see what would happen. The one
> thing I noticed is that the mouse will track up and down between the
> monitors instead of left to right.
>[/color]

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[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 04-12-2007, 04:31 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Dan..

Try the screens corner to corner as in diagonal, if you want some fun with
the mouse pointer.. :)


"DanR" <dhr22@sorrynospam.com> wrote in message
news:e11seNIbHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
>
> "Steve Thackery" <thack@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:%23PuSzvHbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> With respect, Mike, you obviously don't know anything about this. It is
>> NOT merely a representation of two monitors. When you move the little
>> monitor icons around it adjusts the relative co-ordinates of the two
>> screens in the OS.
>>
>> Placing one above the other - or below it - or to either side, moves the
>> LOGICAL position of the screens in Vista, which affects the desktop size
>> and shape.
>>
>> And yes, Vista should definitely remember where the relative positions of
>> the screens are.
>>
>> Mike, as an MS MVP you really shouldn't be making pronouncements in areas
>> you don't have expertise. It reflects badly on the rest of the MVP
>> community.
>>
>> Steve
>>[/color]
>
> I set my 2 monitors up this way just to see what would happen. The one
> thing I noticed is that the mouse will track up and down between the
> monitors instead of left to right.
>[/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 04-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Mike Hall - MS MVP
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

The representation is there to show two monitors, which would generally be
side by side.. the fact that you have one above the other is immaterial..
you will also notice that there is no way to have one facing the other way,
even though that may be the way yours are physically aligned.. :)


"Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B721FDF5-C236-47A7-9399-AFFB05367AAD@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Yes, I do. I am using a laptop with a screen above it.
>
> "DanR" wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hutch" <Hutch@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:CA57998A-FC24-4005-B33E-978F5502237F@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I am running dual monitors, and having a problem w/ the arrangment of
>> >the
>> > monitors. In Display Settings, I arrange Monitor 1 above Monitor 2.
>> > The
>> > settings take effect w/o any problems. However, if I lock the computer
>> > and
>> > then unlock it the settings go back to the default arrangements of the
>> > monitors being side-by-side.
>> >
>> > So is there a way to keep it from doing this or is there a way to
>> > change
>> > the
>> > default arrangement from side-by-side to top and bottom?
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance for you help![/color]
>>
>> No answer but curious. Do you actually have your 2nd monitor physically
>> over
>> your main monitor.
>>
>>[/color][/color]

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 04-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Steve Thackery
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

With respect, Mike, you obviously don't know anything about this. It is NOT
merely a representation of two monitors. When you move the little monitor
icons around it adjusts the relative co-ordinates of the two screens in the
OS.

Placing one above the other - or below it - or to either side, moves the
LOGICAL position of the screens in Vista, which affects the desktop size and
shape.

And yes, Vista should definitely remember where the relative positions of
the screens are.

Mike, as an MS MVP you really shouldn't be making pronouncements in areas
you don't have expertise. It reflects badly on the rest of the MVP
community.

Steve


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Old 04-12-2007, 04:32 PM
DanR
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Have you tried exchanging the VGA/DVI cables on the graphics card(s) so you
don't have to do the monitor 2 / monitor 1 thing?


"velamint" <velamint@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:122675DA-F3A3-416F-A5D4-A42BD8A42D7E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I've had the same issue getting my monitors to remain arranged backwards
> to
> the default. I have monitor 2 as my secondary extended desktop but since
> it's
> widescreen i had to physically put it where i had space available. So i
> set
> it up to scroll across from the left side of my main monitor to the WS
> display. Problem, I lock the computer and on resume it goes back to
> scrolling
> from the right.
>
> Physically it looks like this:
> Monitor 2 - Monitor 1
>
> I had it fixed once...then it reverted. Any ideas?
>
> "Steve Thackery" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Sounds like a genuine bug to me.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to report bugs to the Vista team?
>>
>> Thack
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 04-12-2007, 04:32 PM
DanR
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Have you tried exchanging the VGA/DVI cables on the graphics card(s) so you
don't have to do the monitor 2 / monitor 1 thing?


"velamint" <velamint@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:122675DA-F3A3-416F-A5D4-A42BD8A42D7E@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> I've had the same issue getting my monitors to remain arranged backwards
> to
> the default. I have monitor 2 as my secondary extended desktop but since
> it's
> widescreen i had to physically put it where i had space available. So i
> set
> it up to scroll across from the left side of my main monitor to the WS
> display. Problem, I lock the computer and on resume it goes back to
> scrolling
> from the right.
>
> Physically it looks like this:
> Monitor 2 - Monitor 1
>
> I had it fixed once...then it reverted. Any ideas?
>
> "Steve Thackery" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Sounds like a genuine bug to me.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to report bugs to the Vista team?
>>
>> Thack
>>
>>
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 04-12-2007, 04:32 PM
DanR
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue


"Steve Thackery" <thack@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:%23PuSzvHbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> With respect, Mike, you obviously don't know anything about this. It is
> NOT merely a representation of two monitors. When you move the little
> monitor icons around it adjusts the relative co-ordinates of the two
> screens in the OS.
>
> Placing one above the other - or below it - or to either side, moves the
> LOGICAL position of the screens in Vista, which affects the desktop size
> and shape.
>
> And yes, Vista should definitely remember where the relative positions of
> the screens are.
>
> Mike, as an MS MVP you really shouldn't be making pronouncements in areas
> you don't have expertise. It reflects badly on the rest of the MVP
> community.
>
> Steve
>[/color]

I set my 2 monitors up this way just to see what would happen. The one thing
I noticed is that the mouse will track up and down between the monitors
instead of left to right.

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Old 04-12-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

I've had the same issue getting my monitors to remain arranged backwards to
the default. I have monitor 2 as my secondary extended desktop but since it's
widescreen i had to physically put it where i had space available. So i set
it up to scroll across from the left side of my main monitor to the WS
display. Problem, I lock the computer and on resume it goes back to scrolling
from the right.

Physically it looks like this:
Monitor 2 - Monitor 1

I had it fixed once...then it reverted. Any ideas?

"Steve Thackery" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Sounds like a genuine bug to me.
>
> Does anyone know how to report bugs to the Vista team?
>
> Thack
>
>
>[/color]
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Old 04-12-2007, 04:33 PM
Steve Thackery
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Re: Dual Monitor Issue

Sorry, no. That's why I said it's almost certainly a bug.

You can definitely do this in XP, and it remembers the setting perfectly.

Steve


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Old 04-12-2007, 04:33 PM
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> I set my 2 monitors up this way just to see what would happen. The one[color=blue]
> thing I noticed is that the mouse will track up and down between the
> monitors instead of left to right.[/color]

That's right. You can even use monitors with different resolutions, and in
that case can choose whether to align the left edges or the right edges (or
the tops and bottoms if the monitors are in the more usual side-by-side
position).

As Velamint says, you can even drag the secondary monitor to the wrong side
of the primary, so the mouse behaviour seems completely confusing - a good
trick to play if someone in the office has left their machine unlocked.

Steve


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