Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.

The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.

The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
incompatibility?

Any help at all is greatly appreciated!

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]

Same here!

My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
what is causing it either.

I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
greater than XP.

Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
The PC seems to freeze.

My two main complaints with Indexer are:-

a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)

b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
stupid indexer to be able to search it.

The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
than XP.

There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.

Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.



Cyphon wrote:[color=blue]
> Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
>
> The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
>
> The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> incompatibility?
>
> Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]

Great points guys, sounds like we're having very similar issues. I just hope
there is someone that has had this happen to them and resolved it, as i too
doubt that microsoft will fix these bugs without a higher volume of users
experiencing the same thing.


"DBRASCO" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
> in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.
>
> Brasco
>
> "chas" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Same here!
> >
> > My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> > what is causing it either.
> >
> > I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> > months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> > greater than XP.
> >
> > Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> > impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> > not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> > larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> > changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> > because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> > The PC seems to freeze.
> >
> > My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
> >
> > a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> > PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> > the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
> >
> > b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> > point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> > stupid indexer to be able to search it.
> >
> > The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> > than XP.
> >
> > There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> > don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
> >
> > Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> > because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cyphon wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> > >
> > > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> > >
> > > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > > incompatibility?
> > >
> > > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
> >[/color][/color]

Great points guys, sounds like we're having very similar issues. I just hope
there is someone that has had this happen to them and resolved it, as i too
doubt that microsoft will fix these bugs without a higher volume of users
experiencing the same thing.


"DBRASCO" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
> in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.
>
> Brasco
>
> "chas" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Same here!
> >
> > My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> > what is causing it either.
> >
> > I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> > months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> > greater than XP.
> >
> > Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> > impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> > not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> > larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> > changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> > because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> > The PC seems to freeze.
> >
> > My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
> >
> > a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> > PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> > the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
> >
> > b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> > point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> > stupid indexer to be able to search it.
> >
> > The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> > than XP.
> >
> > There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> > don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
> >
> > Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> > because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cyphon wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> > >
> > > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> > >
> > > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > > incompatibility?
> > >
> > > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
> >[/color][/color]

Great points guys, sounds like we're having very similar issues. I just hope
there is someone that has had this happen to them and resolved it, as i too
doubt that microsoft will fix these bugs without a higher volume of users
experiencing the same thing.


"DBRASCO" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
> in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.
>
> Brasco
>
> "chas" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Same here!
> >
> > My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> > what is causing it either.
> >
> > I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> > months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> > greater than XP.
> >
> > Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> > impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> > not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> > larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> > changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> > because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> > The PC seems to freeze.
> >
> > My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
> >
> > a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> > PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> > the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
> >
> > b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> > point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> > stupid indexer to be able to search it.
> >
> > The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> > than XP.
> >
> > There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> > don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
> >
> > Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> > because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cyphon wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> > >
> > > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> > >
> > > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > > incompatibility?
> > >
> > > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
> >[/color][/color]

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]

Same here!

My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
what is causing it either.

I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
greater than XP.

Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
The PC seems to freeze.

My two main complaints with Indexer are:-

a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)

b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
stupid indexer to be able to search it.

The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
than XP.

There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.

Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.



Cyphon wrote:[color=blue]
> Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
>
> The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
>
> The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> incompatibility?
>
> Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]

Great points guys, sounds like we're having very similar issues. I just hope
there is someone that has had this happen to them and resolved it, as i too
doubt that microsoft will fix these bugs without a higher volume of users
experiencing the same thing.


"DBRASCO" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
> in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.
>
> Brasco
>
> "chas" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Same here!
> >
> > My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> > what is causing it either.
> >
> > I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> > months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> > greater than XP.
> >
> > Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> > impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> > not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> > larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> > changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> > because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> > The PC seems to freeze.
> >
> > My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
> >
> > a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> > PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> > the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
> >
> > b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> > point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> > stupid indexer to be able to search it.
> >
> > The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> > than XP.
> >
> > There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> > don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
> >
> > Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> > because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cyphon wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> > >
> > > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> > >
> > > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > > incompatibility?
> > >
> > > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
> >[/color][/color]

I also have the random load click from the hard drives. That never happened
in XP unless you were doing a shut down or restart.

Brasco

"chas" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Same here!
>
> My HD hardly ever goes quiet under Vista. Task Manager does not show
> what is causing it either.
>
> I disabled the indexer service as I must do at least 2 searches every 6
> months. Hard disk activity is considerably less now but still lots
> greater than XP.
>
> Someone forgot that hard disks are the devices that can have the most
> impact on a computers performance. They are the only devices that have
> not significantly improved over the last few years. Yes they have a much
> larger capacity and are much more reliable now, but the speed has hardly
> changed. So today's CPU's just sit there waiting for a disk to respond
> because its being overloaded by all these silly background processes.
> The PC seems to freeze.
>
> My two main complaints with Indexer are:-
>
> a. It starts as soon as you boot the system and that when you want your
> PC to be as fast as possible. I even had services time-out waiting for
> the disk to be available. (my PC index is 5.3)
>
> b. It starts up as soon as you install some new software. At which
> point most users want to be using that software and not waiting for the
> stupid indexer to be able to search it.
>
> The end impression from a user point of view is Vista is *much* slower
> than XP.
>
> There isn't a HD on the market that can fill the bandwidth of SATA1 so
> don't be fooled into thinking you have a much faster PC if its got SATA2.
>
> Even sadder - no one at Microsoft is going to read this or even care
> because they thought the indexer was a really cool idea.
>
>
>
> Cyphon wrote:[color=green]
> > Since installing Vista Ultimate i have been experiencing annoying and
> > disturbing noises. I have found that my hard drive is regularily spinning up,
> > down and up at random intervals, i have seen no distinct pattern at all. But
> > i can distincly hear the drive spining, it also causes freezes on my computer.
> >
> > The noises i recognise from XP whenever i shut my computer down (and only
> > when) There's like a click, a pop and some spinning. Other times i hear a
> > high pitched spinning noise getting higher and higher. I have also heard
> > another friend mention a similar noise comming from his computer.
> >
> > The only thing i can possibly think of is Drive Ready (for hybrid drives) or
> > Drive Boost (for flash storage) causing this issue due to some
> > incompatibility?
> >
> > Any help at all is greatly appreciated![/color]
>[/color]