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Old 03-24-2008, 10:10 PM
LL
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4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have 4Gb
RAM installed, which is true.
However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3 Gb
RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other invisible
purposes?
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Old 03-24-2008, 10:30 PM
Jawade
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

In article <10E07E4C-544E-4CF4-9383-FFEDF9365C5D@microsoft.com>, =?Utf-8?B?TEw=?=
<LL@discussions.microsoft.com> says...[color=blue]
> After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have 4Gb
> RAM installed, which is true.
> However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3 Gb
> RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other invisible
> purposes?[/color]

It is wasted.

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Old 03-24-2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

It is pretty much wasted. It is a limitation of the 32 bit operating
systems. It can only address 4 GB of memory. This includes the BIOS, I/O,
video memory, etc. So, you have ~3.2 GB of RAM left in that address space.
In order to fully use the 4 GB of RAM, you'd need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS.

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"LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10E07E4C-544E-4CF4-9383-FFEDF9365C5D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have
> 4Gb
> RAM installed, which is true.
> However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3 Gb
> RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
> invisible
> purposes?[/color]

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Old 03-24-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

In article <C38123C2-7AB3-4E48-B8F2-65CB387FB4D3@microsoft.com>, Dustin Harper
<dharper@vistarip.com> says...[color=blue]
> It is pretty much wasted. It is a limitation of the 32 bit operating
> systems. It can only address 4 GB of memory. This includes the BIOS, I/O,
> video memory, etc. So, you have ~3.2 GB of RAM left in that address space.
> In order to fully use the 4 GB of RAM, you'd need to upgrade to a 64 bit OS.[/color]

But for upgrade to 64-bit OS, the hardware must even be 64-bit.

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Old 03-25-2008, 02:50 AM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

Nothing has changed except what is reported on the system properties page.
It now reports installed ram. Type winver in Start/Search and you will see
the memory available for user programs just as before.

"LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10E07E4C-544E-4CF4-9383-FFEDF9365C5D@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have
> 4Gb
> RAM installed, which is true.
> However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3 Gb
> RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
> invisible
> purposes?[/color]

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Old 03-25-2008, 03:20 AM
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have 4Gb
>RAM installed, which is true.
>However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3 Gb
>RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other invisible
>purposes?[/color]

NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:20 AM
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some say it
is not.
i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing purposes. can
someone clearify on that please?

HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend time to
change it fearing that something may not work.

"f/fgeorge" wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have 4Gb
> >RAM installed, which is true.
> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3 Gb
> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other invisible
> >purposes?[/color]
>
> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>[/color]
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:30 AM
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

"LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some say
>it
> is not.
> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing purposes. can
> someone clearify on that please?
>
> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend time
> to
> change it fearing that something may not work.
>
> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have
>> >4Gb
>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3
>> >Gb
>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
>> >invisible
>> >purposes?[/color]
>>
>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>[/color][/color]


Install Vista 64 only if you have a requirement to use MORE than 4gb. Not
all hardware devices have 64bit drivers written for them. Also, some 32bit
programs do not work as well as they might..

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Old 03-25-2008, 06:40 AM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

The "shortfall" is reserved by the BIOS for things like memory-mapped IO for
your video card and such. It is in use but not by user programs. There are
two of you using the computer, you and the computer. Don't worry about it.

"LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some say
>it
> is not.
> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing purposes. can
> someone clearify on that please?
>
> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend time
> to
> change it fearing that something may not work.
>
> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have
>> >4Gb
>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3
>> >Gb
>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
>> >invisible
>> >purposes?[/color]
>>
>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>[/color][/color]

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Old 03-25-2008, 07:20 AM
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

Yes, it is wasted.

The 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory to
3.12 G.
[url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605[/url]
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"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:FD3AA21D-5F48-42DB-B87F-4876D42D1F9F@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> The "shortfall" is reserved by the BIOS for things like memory-mapped IO
> for your video card and such. It is in use but not by user programs.
> There are two of you using the computer, you and the computer. Don't
> worry about it.
>
> "LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some say
>>it
>> is not.
>> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing purposes.
>> can
>> someone clearify on that please?
>>
>> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend time
>> to
>> change it fearing that something may not work.
>>
>> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I have
>>> >4Gb
>>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to 3
>>> >Gb
>>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
>>> >invisible
>>> >purposes?
>>>
>>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>>[/color][/color]
>[/color]

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Old 03-25-2008, 08:00 AM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

There is no 3.12GB limit. Reread the KB and you will see that this is only
an example that the author uses. The memory available for user programs
varies widely according to the BIOS as set by the mobo manufacturer. It can
range from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB (it ranges from 2.5GB to 3.5GB across
my own systems). Throw a pair of SLI video cards with lots of video ram
into your box and you will see the differences.

"Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:taCdnZOCtdg2inTanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Yes, it is wasted.
>
> The 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory to
> 3.12 G.
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605[/url]
> -------
> *Report back, please*
> [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to
> so that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
>
> [How to ask a question]
> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375[/url]
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FD3AA21D-5F48-42DB-B87F-4876D42D1F9F@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> The "shortfall" is reserved by the BIOS for things like memory-mapped IO
>> for your video card and such. It is in use but not by user programs.
>> There are two of you using the computer, you and the computer. Don't
>> worry about it.
>>
>> "LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some say
>>>it
>>> is not.
>>> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing purposes.
>>> can
>>> someone clearify on that please?
>>>
>>> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend time
>>> to
>>> change it fearing that something may not work.
>>>
>>> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I
>>>> >have 4Gb
>>>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>>>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to
>>>> >3 Gb
>>>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
>>>> >invisible
>>>> >purposes?
>>>>
>>>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 03-25-2008, 11:50 AM
Bob
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista


For all practical purposes there is a 3.12GB limit on a 32-bit system.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:DAB49D2C-0F2A-47B4-805F-0B4C584344C5@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> There is no 3.12GB limit. Reread the KB and you will see that this is
> only an example that the author uses. The memory available for user
> programs varies widely according to the BIOS as set by the mobo
> manufacturer. It can range from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB (it ranges from
> 2.5GB to 3.5GB across my own systems). Throw a pair of SLI video cards
> with lots of video ram into your box and you will see the differences.
>
> "Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:taCdnZOCtdg2inTanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>> Yes, it is wasted.
>>
>> The 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory to
>> 3.12 G.
>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605[/url]
>> -------
>> *Report back, please*
>> [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying to
>> so that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
>>
>> [How to ask a question]
>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375[/url]
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:FD3AA21D-5F48-42DB-B87F-4876D42D1F9F@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> The "shortfall" is reserved by the BIOS for things like memory-mapped IO
>>> for your video card and such. It is in use but not by user programs.
>>> There are two of you using the computer, you and the computer. Don't
>>> worry about it.
>>>
>>> "LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...
>>>>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some
>>>>say it
>>>> is not.
>>>> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing purposes.
>>>> can
>>>> someone clearify on that please?
>>>>
>>>> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend
>>>> time to
>>>> change it fearing that something may not work.
>>>>
>>>> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I
>>>>> >have 4Gb
>>>>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>>>>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up to
>>>>> >3 Gb
>>>>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
>>>>> >invisible
>>>>> >purposes?
>>>>>
>>>>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 03-25-2008, 12:40 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

Bob, it is NOT 3.12GB. You are not reading the article carefully. That is
just a number the author pulled out of the air as an example. The range
across computers is from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB or so.

"Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:aJ-dneojo8ydy3TanZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> For all practical purposes there is a 3.12GB limit on a 32-bit system.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:DAB49D2C-0F2A-47B4-805F-0B4C584344C5@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> There is no 3.12GB limit. Reread the KB and you will see that this is
>> only an example that the author uses. The memory available for user
>> programs varies widely according to the BIOS as set by the mobo
>> manufacturer. It can range from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB (it ranges
>> from 2.5GB to 3.5GB across my own systems). Throw a pair of SLI video
>> cards with lots of video ram into your box and you will see the
>> differences.
>>
>> "Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:taCdnZOCtdg2inTanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Yes, it is wasted.
>>>
>>> The 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory to
>>> 3.12 G.
>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605[/url]
>>> -------
>>> *Report back, please*
>>> [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying
>>> to so that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
>>>
>>> [How to ask a question]
>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375[/url]
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:FD3AA21D-5F48-42DB-B87F-4876D42D1F9F@microsoft.com...
>>>> The "shortfall" is reserved by the BIOS for things like memory-mapped
>>>> IO for your video card and such. It is in use but not by user
>>>> programs. There are two of you using the computer, you and the
>>>> computer. Don't worry about it.
>>>>
>>>> "LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...
>>>>>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some
>>>>>say it
>>>>> is not.
>>>>> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing purposes.
>>>>> can
>>>>> someone clearify on that please?
>>>>>
>>>>> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend
>>>>> time to
>>>>> change it fearing that something may not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I
>>>>>> >have 4Gb
>>>>>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>>>>>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up
>>>>>> >to 3 Gb
>>>>>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
>>>>>> >invisible
>>>>>> >purposes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 03-25-2008, 01:00 PM
Bob
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

3.12 vs 3.5. The difference is insignificant.
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"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:09235898-F822-40CC-9537-38FB785C94D0@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Bob, it is NOT 3.12GB. You are not reading the article carefully. That
> is just a number the author pulled out of the air as an example. The
> range across computers is from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB or so.
>
> "Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:aJ-dneojo8ydy3TanZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>>
>> For all practical purposes there is a 3.12GB limit on a 32-bit system.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:DAB49D2C-0F2A-47B4-805F-0B4C584344C5@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> There is no 3.12GB limit. Reread the KB and you will see that this is
>>> only an example that the author uses. The memory available for user
>>> programs varies widely according to the BIOS as set by the mobo
>>> manufacturer. It can range from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB (it ranges
>>> from 2.5GB to 3.5GB across my own systems). Throw a pair of SLI video
>>> cards with lots of video ram into your box and you will see the
>>> differences.
>>>
>>> "Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>> news:taCdnZOCtdg2inTanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Yes, it is wasted.
>>>>
>>>> The 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory
>>>> to 3.12 G.
>>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605[/url]
>>>> -------
>>>> *Report back, please*
>>>> [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying
>>>> to so that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
>>>>
>>>> [How to ask a question]
>>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375[/url]
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:FD3AA21D-5F48-42DB-B87F-4876D42D1F9F@microsoft.com...
>>>>> The "shortfall" is reserved by the BIOS for things like memory-mapped
>>>>> IO for your video card and such. It is in use but not by user
>>>>> programs. There are two of you using the computer, you and the
>>>>> computer. Don't worry about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> "LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some
>>>>>>say it
>>>>>> is not.
>>>>>> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing
>>>>>> purposes. can
>>>>>> someone clearify on that please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend
>>>>>> time to
>>>>>> change it fearing that something may not work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL
>>>>>>> <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I
>>>>>>> >have 4Gb
>>>>>>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>>>>>>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up
>>>>>>> >to 3 Gb
>>>>>>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for other
>>>>>>> >invisible
>>>>>>> >purposes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:40 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: 4Gb RAM, 32bit Vista

Bob, the range that I see on my machines starts at 2GB, not 3.12, and it is
significant to users or there would not be postings about it nearly every
day.

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> 3.12 vs 3.5. The difference is insignificant.
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> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Bob, it is NOT 3.12GB. You are not reading the article carefully. That
>> is just a number the author pulled out of the air as an example. The
>> range across computers is from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB or so.
>>
>> "Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:aJ-dneojo8ydy3TanZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> For all practical purposes there is a 3.12GB limit on a 32-bit system.
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:DAB49D2C-0F2A-47B4-805F-0B4C584344C5@microsoft.com...
>>>> There is no 3.12GB limit. Reread the KB and you will see that this is
>>>> only an example that the author uses. The memory available for user
>>>> programs varies widely according to the BIOS as set by the mobo
>>>> manufacturer. It can range from as little as 2GB to 3.5GB (it ranges
>>>> from 2.5GB to 3.5GB across my own systems). Throw a pair of SLI video
>>>> cards with lots of video ram into your box and you will see the
>>>> differences.
>>>>
>>>> "Bob" <bob@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:taCdnZOCtdg2inTanZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Yes, it is wasted.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 32-bit versions of Windows Vista limit the total available memory
>>>>> to 3.12 G.
>>>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605[/url]
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>>>>> *Report back, please*
>>>>> [When responding to posts, please include the post(s) you are replying
>>>>> to so that others may learn and benefit from the issue]
>>>>>
>>>>> [How to ask a question]
>>>>> [url]http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375[/url]
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:FD3AA21D-5F48-42DB-B87F-4876D42D1F9F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> The "shortfall" is reserved by the BIOS for things like memory-mapped
>>>>>> IO for your video card and such. It is in use but not by user
>>>>>> programs. There are two of you using the computer, you and the
>>>>>> computer. Don't worry about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LL" <LL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:5C2F4C44-287F-46E0-B57F-845F902EF743@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>i feel confused seeing different answers. some say it is wasted, some
>>>>>>>say it
>>>>>>> is not.
>>>>>>> i heard that the rest of RAM is used for hardware addressing
>>>>>>> purposes. can
>>>>>>> someone clearify on that please?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HP says my notebook can run 64bit vista, but i dont think i'd spend
>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>> change it fearing that something may not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "f/fgeorge" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:10:01 -0700, LL
>>>>>>>> <LL@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >After installing SP1 on Vista, the system properties report that I
>>>>>>>> >have 4Gb
>>>>>>>> >RAM installed, which is true.
>>>>>>>> >However it seems that from the Task Manager, it only can handle up
>>>>>>>> >to 3 Gb
>>>>>>>> >RAM. So is the other 1Gb wasted? Or is it actually in use for
>>>>>>>> >other invisible
>>>>>>>> >purposes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NO it is NOT wasted, yes it is available, just not reported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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