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Old 04-19-2007, 06:02 AM
Nick Mason
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Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

I've recently bought a new PC running Vista for home use, I'm still using
my current keyboard, an MS Office Keyboard like this;

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-E17-00002-Office-Keyboard/dp/B00005NVBO[/url]

When I tried to install the MS Intellitype Pro drivers Vista tells me there
are known compatibility issues and points me to the MS site for a possible
solution. On the MS site my keyboard isn't listed, you choose your product
type, product, language etc. Maybe MS think it's too old despite the fact
you can still buy them!

In a bid to resolve the problem I picked the Media keyboard from the list
and downloaded the latest Intellitype Pro driver, version 6.2 I think.

This driver installs OK and to my relief almost fixes the problem. Most of
the keys work as documented except the scroll wheel on the left and the Cut,
Copy, Paste keys work fine in an application but copy and paste between
applications doesn't always work. Of course I tend to use the scroll wheel a
*lot* in preference to the mouse scroll wheel.

Has anyone got this type of keyboard working properly?

How did you do it?

What are the issues with the original driver software?

Thanks in advance for your help.

--
Regards
Nick

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Old 04-19-2007, 03:17 PM
Mary
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RE: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Keyboards don't have drivers. You are trying to install the software that is
incompatible. Consider buying a new keyboard--the natural ergonomic KB 4000
is not expensive--less than $40, runs with the latest Intellitype software
version 6.1 and will solve your problem. It looks a lot like your keyboard.
I've been using it for a year now and it runs great with Vista.

"Nick Mason" wrote:
[color=blue]
> I've recently bought a new PC running Vista for home use, I'm still using
> my current keyboard, an MS Office Keyboard like this;
>
> [url]http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-E17-00002-Office-Keyboard/dp/B00005NVBO[/url]
>
> When I tried to install the MS Intellitype Pro drivers Vista tells me there
> are known compatibility issues and points me to the MS site for a possible
> solution. On the MS site my keyboard isn't listed, you choose your product
> type, product, language etc. Maybe MS think it's too old despite the fact
> you can still buy them!
>
> In a bid to resolve the problem I picked the Media keyboard from the list
> and downloaded the latest Intellitype Pro driver, version 6.2 I think.
>
> This driver installs OK and to my relief almost fixes the problem. Most of
> the keys work as documented except the scroll wheel on the left and the Cut,
> Copy, Paste keys work fine in an application but copy and paste between
> applications doesn't always work. Of course I tend to use the scroll wheel a
> *lot* in preference to the mouse scroll wheel.
>
> Has anyone got this type of keyboard working properly?
>
> How did you do it?
>
> What are the issues with the original driver software?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> --
> Regards
> Nick
>[/color]
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:01 AM
Mike Hall - MS MVP
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Mary

Keyboards do have drivers, and the MS 4000 keyboard is not the best
replacement unless the OP is a skilled typist..


"Mary" <Mary@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7018D632-96E4-481A-A1FC-29C9A344A2DA@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Keyboards don't have drivers. You are trying to install the software that
> is
> incompatible. Consider buying a new keyboard--the natural ergonomic KB
> 4000
> is not expensive--less than $40, runs with the latest Intellitype software
> version 6.1 and will solve your problem. It looks a lot like your
> keyboard.
> I've been using it for a year now and it runs great with Vista.
>
> "Nick Mason" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I've recently bought a new PC running Vista for home use, I'm still
>> using
>> my current keyboard, an MS Office Keyboard like this;
>>
>> [url]http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-E17-00002-Office-Keyboard/dp/B00005NVBO[/url]
>>
>> When I tried to install the MS Intellitype Pro drivers Vista tells me
>> there
>> are known compatibility issues and points me to the MS site for a
>> possible
>> solution. On the MS site my keyboard isn't listed, you choose your
>> product
>> type, product, language etc. Maybe MS think it's too old despite the fact
>> you can still buy them!
>>
>> In a bid to resolve the problem I picked the Media keyboard from the list
>> and downloaded the latest Intellitype Pro driver, version 6.2 I think.
>>
>> This driver installs OK and to my relief almost fixes the problem. Most
>> of
>> the keys work as documented except the scroll wheel on the left and the
>> Cut,
>> Copy, Paste keys work fine in an application but copy and paste between
>> applications doesn't always work. Of course I tend to use the scroll
>> wheel a
>> *lot* in preference to the mouse scroll wheel.
>>
>> Has anyone got this type of keyboard working properly?
>>
>> How did you do it?
>>
>> What are the issues with the original driver software?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Nick
>>[/color][/color]

--


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MS MVP Windows Shell/User
[url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/[/url]



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Old 04-20-2007, 08:32 AM
Nick Mason
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard


"Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eCIHcJ1gHHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Mary
>
> Keyboards do have drivers, and the MS 4000 keyboard is not the best
> replacement unless the OP is a skilled typist..
>[/color]
I'm skilled typist, I've been in database development and application
support for 32 years. My problem is that I've been typing for so long that I
forget how to form words when I have to pick up a pen!

I have one of these on my work PC. It took me a while to get used to. ;O)

[url]http://www.daskeyboard.com/[/url]

I did try an ergonomic keyboard when they first came out but never really
got on with them. I think the problem was that I sat in front of so many
different servers, terminals, PCs and Unix boxes that swapping between a
normal and ergonomic keyboard was a pain.

I'll probably bite the bullet a get a new keyboard at some point but it irks
me that there's nothing wrong with the one I have and I like the scroll
wheel on the left. I'll give it a while and and see if I can live with it as
it is.

So it goes..

--

Regards
Nick

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Old 04-20-2007, 09:16 AM
Mike Hall - MS MVP
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Nick

The MS Desktop Elite keyboard has a scroll wheel.. I have one and it works
well


"Nick Mason" <noemail@nospam> wrote in message
news:1D2057F4-8FA8-4E62-BA43-BECDAF529A5C@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eCIHcJ1gHHA.5052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Mary
>>
>> Keyboards do have drivers, and the MS 4000 keyboard is not the best
>> replacement unless the OP is a skilled typist..
>>[/color]
> I'm skilled typist, I've been in database development and application
> support for 32 years. My problem is that I've been typing for so long that
> I forget how to form words when I have to pick up a pen!
>
> I have one of these on my work PC. It took me a while to get used to. ;O)
>
> [url]http://www.daskeyboard.com/[/url]
>
> I did try an ergonomic keyboard when they first came out but never really
> got on with them. I think the problem was that I sat in front of so many
> different servers, terminals, PCs and Unix boxes that swapping between a
> normal and ergonomic keyboard was a pain.
>
> I'll probably bite the bullet a get a new keyboard at some point but it
> irks me that there's nothing wrong with the one I have and I like the
> scroll wheel on the left. I'll give it a while and and see if I can live
> with it as it is.
>
> So it goes..
>
> --
>
> Regards
> Nick[/color]

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Old 04-20-2007, 10:02 AM
Nick Mason
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Mike Hall - MS MVP wrote:[color=blue]
> Nick
>
> The MS Desktop Elite keyboard has a scroll wheel.. I have one and it
> works well
>[/color]

Thanks Mike, I'll check it out.

-

Regards
Nick
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:16 PM
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Nick,

I have an Office Keyboard and was able to get the wheel and buttons working
in Vista by doing the following:

Download Intellitype 5.0 from here
[url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3d0ba152-5d92-4772-a2fd-5ab35c750685&DisplayLang=en[/url]

Force the installation of IntelliType Pro 5.0 (old version).
- Unzip ITP5_0Eng.exe (direct execution not possible on Vista.)
- In property of \Microsoft Intellitype Pro 5.0\IType\Setup.exe, set
Compatibility mode = Win2000
- Launch this Setup (not the \Microsoft Intellitype Pro 5.0\Setup.exe !)
- In C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliType Pro, set Compatibility mode =
WinXP (or Win2000) for ALL the exe.

It works, only pb is there is an error message when trying to access to the
configuration of the keyboard in Control Panel (RunDll32...). But at least
all the keys are working (Cut, Past, Copy, Web... and wheel).

Thanks to BarCode for this tip.

Good Luck,

Mike

"Nick Mason" <noemail@nospam> wrote in message
news:AFC90BC0-03AE-47D4-BCE7-5FB32C6DEC26@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Mike Hall - MS MVP wrote:[color=green]
>> Nick
>>
>> The MS Desktop Elite keyboard has a scroll wheel.. I have one and it
>> works well
>>[/color]
>
> Thanks Mike, I'll check it out.
> -
> Regards
> Nick[/color]

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Old 04-25-2007, 12:46 AM
Nick Mason
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Outstanding!

It works fine apart from the DLL failure. As I only want the keys to do what
they should by default this isn't a problem. I have also noticed that when
using the volume buttons the green volume bar doesn't move but the volume
does so it's a minor issue.

Thank you very much for this.

--

Regards
Nick
"mhornet" <mjziak@comcastdotnet> wrote in message
news:OirARevhHHA.2368@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Nick,
>
> I have an Office Keyboard and was able to get the wheel and buttons
> working in Vista by doing the following:
>
> Download Intellitype 5.0 from here
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3d0ba152-5d92-4772-a2fd-5ab35c750685&DisplayLang=en[/url]
>
> Force the installation of IntelliType Pro 5.0 (old version).
> - Unzip ITP5_0Eng.exe (direct execution not possible on Vista.)
> - In property of \Microsoft Intellitype Pro 5.0\IType\Setup.exe, set
> Compatibility mode = Win2000
> - Launch this Setup (not the \Microsoft Intellitype Pro 5.0\Setup.exe !)
> - In C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliType Pro, set Compatibility mode =
> WinXP (or Win2000) for ALL the exe.
>
> It works, only pb is there is an error message when trying to access to
> the configuration of the keyboard in Control Panel (RunDll32...). But at
> least all the keys are working (Cut, Past, Copy, Web... and wheel).
>
> Thanks to BarCode for this tip.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Mike
>
> "Nick Mason" <noemail@nospam> wrote in message
> news:AFC90BC0-03AE-47D4-BCE7-5FB32C6DEC26@microsoft.com...[color=green]
>> Mike Hall - MS MVP wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> The MS Desktop Elite keyboard has a scroll wheel.. I have one and it
>>> works well
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Thanks Mike, I'll check it out.
>> -
>> Regards
>> Nick[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 04-26-2007, 05:46 PM
mhornet
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Glad to hear it helped. For me as long as the scroll wheel and buttons on
the left side work, I'm happy. I think I also noticed the 'log off' button
doesn't work, but that's no big deal.

Mike


"Nick Mason" <noemail@nospam> wrote in message
news:%23fU0XwwhHHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Outstanding!
>
> It works fine apart from the DLL failure. As I only want the keys to do
> what they should by default this isn't a problem. I have also noticed that
> when using the volume buttons the green volume bar doesn't move but the
> volume does so it's a minor issue.
>
> Thank you very much for this.
>
> --
>
> Regards
> Nick
> "mhornet" <mjziak@comcastdotnet> wrote in message
> news:OirARevhHHA.2368@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> Nick,
>>
>> I have an Office Keyboard and was able to get the wheel and buttons
>> working in Vista by doing the following:
>>
>> Download Intellitype 5.0 from here
>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3d0ba152-5d92-4772-a2fd-5ab35c750685&DisplayLang=en[/url]
>>
>> Force the installation of IntelliType Pro 5.0 (old version).
>> - Unzip ITP5_0Eng.exe (direct execution not possible on Vista.)
>> - In property of \Microsoft Intellitype Pro 5.0\IType\Setup.exe, set
>> Compatibility mode = Win2000
>> - Launch this Setup (not the \Microsoft Intellitype Pro 5.0\Setup.exe !)
>> - In C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliType Pro, set Compatibility mode =
>> WinXP (or Win2000) for ALL the exe.
>>
>> It works, only pb is there is an error message when trying to access to
>> the configuration of the keyboard in Control Panel (RunDll32...). But at
>> least all the keys are working (Cut, Past, Copy, Web... and wheel).
>>
>> Thanks to BarCode for this tip.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> "Nick Mason" <noemail@nospam> wrote in message
>> news:AFC90BC0-03AE-47D4-BCE7-5FB32C6DEC26@microsoft.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Mike Hall - MS MVP wrote:
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>> The MS Desktop Elite keyboard has a scroll wheel.. I have one and it
>>>> works well
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Mike, I'll check it out.
>>> -
>>> Regards
>>> Nick[/color]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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Old 04-27-2007, 01:31 AM
Nick Mason
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

mhornet wrote:[color=blue]
> Glad to hear it helped. For me as long as the scroll wheel and
> buttons on the left side work, I'm happy. I think I also noticed the
> 'log off' button doesn't work, but that's no big deal.
>
> Mike
>[/color]

Just tried the log off button and you're right, it doesn't work but then
again I don't use it so it doesn't matter.


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Old 05-19-2007, 06:10 PM
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RE: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Mary I see you have a Natural ergonomic KB 4000. I just purchased one and
load the software and did not run into any problems with that but only
certain keys work on the keyboard. They seem to work fine when I am in a
word document but out of it such as to type in a new web address, back space,
delete or even type in a password for another program the keyboard will not
respond. Do you have any suggestions?

"Mary" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Keyboards don't have drivers. You are trying to install the software that is
> incompatible. Consider buying a new keyboard--the natural ergonomic KB 4000
> is not expensive--less than $40, runs with the latest Intellitype software
> version 6.1 and will solve your problem. It looks a lot like your keyboard.
> I've been using it for a year now and it runs great with Vista.
>
> "Nick Mason" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > I've recently bought a new PC running Vista for home use, I'm still using
> > my current keyboard, an MS Office Keyboard like this;
> >
> > [url]http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-E17-00002-Office-Keyboard/dp/B00005NVBO[/url]
> >
> > When I tried to install the MS Intellitype Pro drivers Vista tells me there
> > are known compatibility issues and points me to the MS site for a possible
> > solution. On the MS site my keyboard isn't listed, you choose your product
> > type, product, language etc. Maybe MS think it's too old despite the fact
> > you can still buy them!
> >
> > In a bid to resolve the problem I picked the Media keyboard from the list
> > and downloaded the latest Intellitype Pro driver, version 6.2 I think.
> >
> > This driver installs OK and to my relief almost fixes the problem. Most of
> > the keys work as documented except the scroll wheel on the left and the Cut,
> > Copy, Paste keys work fine in an application but copy and paste between
> > applications doesn't always work. Of course I tend to use the scroll wheel a
> > *lot* in preference to the mouse scroll wheel.
> >
> > Has anyone got this type of keyboard working properly?
> >
> > How did you do it?
> >
> > What are the issues with the original driver software?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Nick
> >[/color][/color]
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Old 05-19-2007, 06:30 PM
Mike Hall MVP
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Re: Keyboard Problem - MS Office Keyboard

Download the Vista drivers from here..

[url]http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/Download.mspx[/url]

"MomGedd" <MomGedd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3DF4E562-9DFE-4658-94CD-C3D7E5A724C9@microsoft.com...[color=blue]
> Mary I see you have a Natural ergonomic KB 4000. I just purchased one and
> load the software and did not run into any problems with that but only
> certain keys work on the keyboard. They seem to work fine when I am in a
> word document but out of it such as to type in a new web address, back
> space,
> delete or even type in a password for another program the keyboard will
> not
> respond. Do you have any suggestions?
>
> "Mary" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Keyboards don't have drivers. You are trying to install the software that
>> is
>> incompatible. Consider buying a new keyboard--the natural ergonomic KB
>> 4000
>> is not expensive--less than $40, runs with the latest Intellitype
>> software
>> version 6.1 and will solve your problem. It looks a lot like your
>> keyboard.
>> I've been using it for a year now and it runs great with Vista.
>>
>> "Nick Mason" wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> > I've recently bought a new PC running Vista for home use, I'm still
>> > using
>> > my current keyboard, an MS Office Keyboard like this;
>> >
>> > [url]http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-E17-00002-Office-Keyboard/dp/B00005NVBO[/url]
>> >
>> > When I tried to install the MS Intellitype Pro drivers Vista tells me
>> > there
>> > are known compatibility issues and points me to the MS site for a
>> > possible
>> > solution. On the MS site my keyboard isn't listed, you choose your
>> > product
>> > type, product, language etc. Maybe MS think it's too old despite the
>> > fact
>> > you can still buy them!
>> >
>> > In a bid to resolve the problem I picked the Media keyboard from the
>> > list
>> > and downloaded the latest Intellitype Pro driver, version 6.2 I think.
>> >
>> > This driver installs OK and to my relief almost fixes the problem. Most
>> > of
>> > the keys work as documented except the scroll wheel on the left and the
>> > Cut,
>> > Copy, Paste keys work fine in an application but copy and paste between
>> > applications doesn't always work. Of course I tend to use the scroll
>> > wheel a
>> > *lot* in preference to the mouse scroll wheel.
>> >
>> > Has anyone got this type of keyboard working properly?
>> >
>> > How did you do it?
>> >
>> > What are the issues with the original driver software?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your help.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> > Nick
>> >[/color][/color][/color]

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Old 08-11-2007, 11:30 AM
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"Mike Hall - MS MVP" wrote:
[color=blue]
> Nick
>
> The MS Desktop Elite keyboard has a scroll wheel.. I have one and it works
> well
>[/color]


Mike, which OS and driver versions are you using? Your keyboard scroll wheel
works?
I have the same Desktop Elite keyboard/mouse set...but my scroll wheel on
the keyboard is not working. I am on Vista Home Premium (32-bit), and have
the Intellitype and Intellipoint software version 6.1 installed. I will try
mhornet's suggestion of installing the older version, since the scroll wheel
*did* work in the past (before upgrading to Vista).
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Old 08-11-2007, 12:20 PM
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"Fallstar" wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP" wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Nick
> >
> > The MS Desktop Elite keyboard has a scroll wheel.. I have one and it works
> > well
> >[/color]
>
>
> Mike, which OS and driver versions are you using? Your keyboard scroll wheel
> works?
> I have the same Desktop Elite keyboard/mouse set...but my scroll wheel on
> the keyboard is not working. I am on Vista Home Premium (32-bit), and have
> the Intellitype and Intellipoint software version 6.1 installed. I will try
> mhornet's suggestion of installing the older version, since the scroll wheel
> *did* work in the past (before upgrading to Vista).[/color]

Sorry for double-posting...I tried the version 5.0 but it did not work. I
uninstalled it and removed the folder, then reinstalled 6.1. Now my
scrollwheel works properly. hmm, go figure. :o/
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