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Old 06-17-2007, 01:00 PM
DiamondGazer
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Chess Titans bug

Hi,

For starters, if this is in the wrong place or it would be better suited
somewhere else, I apoligize profusely.

Chess Titans has been working fine for me for the two weeks that I've owned
Vista, but as I was playing a round of the game, an enemy pawn made an
illegal move.

What happened is I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy pawn
at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by moving
to G6. At first I thought it could have been my not watching very closely and
clicking G6 with my pawn instead of G5--but I undid that move and tried
again. The computer shows my pawn on G5, and then when it moved--that G5 pawn
was captured and the enemy was on G6.

I've been looking around Microsoft's website in search of a patch or
something, but I haven't been able to find anything.

Any and all help would be appreciated.
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Kurt Herman
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Re: Chess Titans bug

En Passant?

Look it up.

Kurt

"DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> For starters, if this is in the wrong place or it would be better suited
> somewhere else, I apoligize profusely.
>
> Chess Titans has been working fine for me for the two weeks that I've
> owned
> Vista, but as I was playing a round of the game, an enemy pawn made an
> illegal move.
>
> What happened is I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy
> pawn
> at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
> moving
> to G6. At first I thought it could have been my not watching very closely
> and
> clicking G6 with my pawn instead of G5--but I undid that move and tried
> again. The computer shows my pawn on G5, and then when it moved--that G5
> pawn
> was captured and the enemy was on G6.
>
> I've been looking around Microsoft's website in search of a patch or
> something, but I haven't been able to find anything.
>
> Any and all help would be appreciated.


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Old 06-17-2007, 01:41 PM
Neil
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Re: Chess Titans bug

"DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy pawn
> at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
> moving
> to G6.


That's not a bug it's the rules of the game.

Neil

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Old 06-18-2007, 06:20 AM
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Re: Chess Titans bug

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_passant

"DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:243579B4-C6A8-447C-BD28-0D0A8AA43039@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> For starters, if this is in the wrong place or it would be better suited
> somewhere else, I apoligize profusely.
>
> Chess Titans has been working fine for me for the two weeks that I've
> owned
> Vista, but as I was playing a round of the game, an enemy pawn made an
> illegal move.
>
> What happened is I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy
> pawn
> at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
> moving
> to G6. At first I thought it could have been my not watching very closely
> and
> clicking G6 with my pawn instead of G5--but I undid that move and tried
> again. The computer shows my pawn on G5, and then when it moved--that G5
> pawn
> was captured and the enemy was on G6.
>
> I've been looking around Microsoft's website in search of a patch or
> something, but I haven't been able to find anything.
>
> Any and all help would be appreciated.


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Old 06-19-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: Chess Titans bug

"DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:243579B4-C6A8-447C-BD28-0D0A8AA43039@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> What happened is I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy
> pawn
> at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
> moving
> to G6. At first I thought it could have been my not watching very closely
> and
> clicking G6 with my pawn instead of G5--but I undid that move and tried
> again. The computer shows my pawn on G5, and then when it moved--that G5
> pawn
> was captured and the enemy was on G6.


Chess, greatest game ever, just when you think you completely understand
it... ya learn something new.

Come on peeps this is the second gameplay bug post in the same week! Does
anyone honestly think there's any chess program out there that would allow
illegal moves? I mean come on... it's Chess. I made a chess program in
PASCAL back in college using opensource code and it worked great, no cpu,
but I was just learning. :)

-Andy

p.s. if Chess Titans isn't doing it for ya there are a ton of chess games,
just Google something like "Chess PC Software". Might want to add in +Vista
because most programs I came across didn't have Vista listed. You can get
Chessmaster 9000 downloaded for like $10 from the Ubisoft store.

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Old 08-28-2007, 05:00 PM
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Re: Chess Titans bug

maybe I missed something but I thought the rules of the game state that a
pawn can only capture a piece that is diagonal not when it is beside it.
SO does anyone know how to deal with this

"Neil" wrote:

> "DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:243579B4-C6A8-447C-BD28-0D0A8AA43039@microsoft.com...
> > I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy pawn
> > at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
> > moving
> > to G6.

>
> That's not a bug it's the rules of the game.
>
> Neil
>
>

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Old 08-28-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: Chess Titans bug

I did look it up and I stand corrected. I just not call up the man who tought
me how to play and ask why I have never heard of this before.

"Kurt Herman" wrote:

> En Passant?
>
> Look it up.
>
> Kurt
>
> "DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:243579B4-C6A8-447C-BD28-0D0A8AA43039@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > For starters, if this is in the wrong place or it would be better suited
> > somewhere else, I apoligize profusely.
> >
> > Chess Titans has been working fine for me for the two weeks that I've
> > owned
> > Vista, but as I was playing a round of the game, an enemy pawn made an
> > illegal move.
> >
> > What happened is I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy
> > pawn
> > at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
> > moving
> > to G6. At first I thought it could have been my not watching very closely
> > and
> > clicking G6 with my pawn instead of G5--but I undid that move and tried
> > again. The computer shows my pawn on G5, and then when it moved--that G5
> > pawn
> > was captured and the enemy was on G6.
> >
> > I've been looking around Microsoft's website in search of a patch or
> > something, but I haven't been able to find anything.
> >
> > Any and all help would be appreciated.

>

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Old 08-28-2007, 07:30 PM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Chess Titans bug

Like most rules, there are exceptions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_passant

As for how to deal with it, do not make the same mistake as the OP and
others.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"adam12" <adam12@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2CCA136F-4B46-43CD-A1ED-58C7B8B91B7F@microsoft.com...
> maybe I missed something but I thought the rules of the game state
> that a
> pawn can only capture a piece that is diagonal not when it is beside
> it.
> SO does anyone know how to deal with this


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Old 08-29-2007, 07:50 AM
Andy [YaYa]
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Re: Chess Titans bug

>> "DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:243579B4-C6A8-447C-BD28-0D0A8AA43039@microsoft.com...
>> > I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy pawn
>> > at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
>> > moving
>> > to G6.


>> That's not a bug it's the rules of the game.
>>
>> Neil


>>"adam12" <adam12@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:2CCA136F-4B46-43CD-A1ED-58C7B8B91B7F@microsoft.com...

> maybe I missed something but I thought the rules of the game state that a
> pawn can only capture a piece that is diagonal not when it is beside it.
> SO does anyone know how to deal with this


The move is called "En passant". En passant capture is a special type of
move, with which pawns can take other pawns, under specific rules. It goes
as follows:

1. A player moves his pawn two squares, from his second row to his fourth
row.
2. There is a pawn of the opponent that can capture at the squares that
is passed over by the pawn.
3. In that case, this pawn of the opponent has the right to capture en
passant in the directly following move.
4. To capture en passant, the opponents pawn goes to the square passed
over by the pawn (i.e., the square on the third row), thus moving diagonally
forwards. The captured pawn is taken from the board.

In otherwords, if 2 pawns line up side by side, on the NEXT move your
opponent has the option to move behind your pawn and your pawn bites the big
one. Not to mention your opponents pawn has a nice line of sight with your
back lines.

http://www.chessvariants.org/d.chess/enpassant.html

**** dude, Chess has been around for centuries, if "Big Blue" couldn't mess
it up, what makes you think todays computing powerhouses will? It's CHESS,
if a computer makes a cool move that you've never seen before, assume it's a
valid move. Note that this quote from chessvariants.org says, "under
specific rules", you might see if there's an option in Chess Titans to turn
off En passant.

-A.

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Old 08-29-2007, 01:30 PM
Andy [YaYa]
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Re: Chess Titans bug

"Andy [YaYa]" <android8675@MAPSONhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "DiamondGazer" <DiamondGazer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:243579B4-C6A8-447C-BD28-0D0A8AA43039@microsoft.com...
>>> > I moved my pawn from G7 to G5, and there was an enemy pawn
>>> > at H5. Then on the CPU's turn, it captures that pawn that was on G5 by
>>> > moving
>>> > to G6.

>
>>> That's not a bug it's the rules of the game.
>>>
>>> Neil

>
>>>"adam12" <adam12@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2CCA136F-4B46-43CD-A1ED-58C7B8B91B7F@microsoft.com...

>> maybe I missed something but I thought the rules of the game state that a
>> pawn can only capture a piece that is diagonal not when it is beside it.
>> SO does anyone know how to deal with this

>
> The move is called "En passant". En passant capture is a special type of
> move, with which pawns can take other pawns, under specific rules. It goes
> as follows:
>
> 1. A player moves his pawn two squares, from his second row to his
> fourth row.
> 2. There is a pawn of the opponent that can capture at the squares that
> is passed over by the pawn.
> 3. In that case, this pawn of the opponent has the right to capture en
> passant in the directly following move.
> 4. To capture en passant, the opponents pawn goes to the square passed
> over by the pawn (i.e., the square on the third row), thus moving
> diagonally forwards. The captured pawn is taken from the board.
>
> In otherwords, if 2 pawns line up side by side, on the NEXT move your
> opponent has the option to move behind your pawn and your pawn bites the
> big one. Not to mention your opponents pawn has a nice line of sight with
> your back lines.
>
> http://www.chessvariants.org/d.chess/enpassant.html
>
> **** dude, Chess has been around for centuries, if "Big Blue" couldn't
> mess it up, what makes you think todays computing powerhouses will? It's
> CHESS, if a computer makes a cool move that you've never seen before,
> assume it's a valid move. Note that this quote from chessvariants.org
> says, "under specific rules", you might see if there's an option in Chess
> Titans to turn off En passant.
>
> -A.


Geez that last paragraph was a little harsh, sorry dude, working on 4 hours
of sleep today. Was a little cranky this morning.

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