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Old 07-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Ilia
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Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Hi,

Where can I find information about new Vista features from handwriting
recognizer developer's point of view?
In particular I would like to know how to implement Text Correction,
what *Trainer* entry points are all about and what new registry
settings (like "Recognizer Separator", TextAdaptationSupport etc.)
mean.

Can anybody shed any light on this?

Thank you.

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Old 07-19-2007, 10:21 PM
Mitica Manu [MS]
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RE: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Hi Ilia,

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms698554.aspx has information about
the IHandWrittenTextInsertion, ITextInputPanel and ITipAutocompleteClient
that were added or improved in Vista toward some of the goals you are trying
to achieve (Text correction).

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...abilities.aspx
has more information about the Personalizable flag that was added to identify
the recognizers that are personalizable.

The training registry entries and entry points that you mention are specific
to the MS Handwriting recognizers as part of the handwriting personalization
functionality that is not supported in the SDK beyond the capabilities
mentioned earlier.

Thank you,
Mitica Manu [MS]


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Old 07-24-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Hello Mitica,

Thank you for helping!

Yes those interfaces are available for third-party applications, but I
am developing a recognizer (for Russian language). And I am trying to
figure out what new methods I should implement to make the Input Panel
work correctly. Right now Text Correction does not work with Russian
language. I guess some application level interfaces might also not
work properly with Russian language until the recognizer library is
updated.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms698185.aspx has information
for recognizer developers, but I can't see any difference comparing to
Tablet PC SDK v1.7. Are you planning to update it or can you please
point me to some other resources where I could find this information?

Thanks.

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Old 07-25-2007, 11:50 PM
Mitica Manu [MS]
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?


Hello Ilia,

Thank you very much for the additional information, this helps me to
understand better your problem. The APIs documented in the link you mention
are correct. There should not be differences in the required APIs between the
1.7 and Vista. The additional APIs you mentioned are exposed only by a
handful of recognizers (for personalization purposes) and should not
influence the correction experience.

Could you please provide additional information about the scenarios that are
not working? Is it in line mode or boxed mode? Is the result showing up? What
about the list of alternates?

Is the handwriting sample
(http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms704306.aspx) working in the same
scenario?

Thank you,
Mitica Manu

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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Any c# examples?
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:00 AM
Mitica Manu [MS]
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Is your question referring to the sample recognizer implementation? If so,
the only sample provided in MSDN is only unmanaged.

There is nothing to prevent the implementation of the engine itself in the
language of your preference as long as the interface respects the required
APIs and data structures (they are C APIs so you will need to build an
interface to convert the calls and data structures both ways).

Thank you,
Mitica Manu

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Old 07-30-2007, 10:30 AM
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Hello Mitica!

Sorry for the delay with the answer.
I think there is still misunderstanding between us.

Here is what I am talking about http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa371122.aspx
(the first picture).
The Input Panel (top part) works fine with the recognizer (it shows
recognition results, alternates, can correct words and letters etc.),
but it does not want to switch into Text Correction mode (bottom part)
when you select text in some application (e.g. Notepad) which contains
Russian letters, even the Russian recognizer is properly installed in
the system.

Hope it's getting a little clearer now.

Btw, it looks very similar to the problem I run into some time ago
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...772dfee8b40682
when "Add to dictionary" button refused to work if some of the
characters of a recognized word were not part of code page 1237.

Thanks.

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Old 08-02-2007, 11:30 AM
Mitica Manu [MS]
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Hello Ilia!

Thank you for the additional clarification.

I am sorry for the delay in answering, I investigated this so I have a sure
answer for you.

Unfortunately this particular scenario will not work for Russian in Vista.

Thank you,
Mitica


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Old 08-02-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Hello Mitica!

Yeah that's unfortunate, but any way thank you very much for
investigating this issue and answering.

One more question. Can you please tell what is the best way of
reporting this issue to make it solved in some of the next version of
Windows or hopefully in SP?

Thank you.

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Old 08-02-2007, 08:20 PM
Mitica Manu [MS]
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

Hello Ilia!

I already reported the issue to our group and we are investigating the cause
for this – thank you very much for indicating the issue.

In the future, either this newsgroup or sending email to tabfbck at
Microsoft dot com will work very well for reporting such issues.

Thank you,
Mitica Manu

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Old 08-03-2007, 04:00 AM
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Re: Vista Handwriting Recognizer SDK?

That's great!
Thank you Mitica.

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