Hello,

as discussed earlier in this group, the MS HWR engine does not provide
confidence values for german language. In the case of restricting the result
to digits, of course we could switch to english recognition language for
getting confidence values.

using(InkAnalyzer analyzer = new InkAnalyzer(tempInk,invisibleForm))
{

AnalysisHintNode hintNode = analyzer.CreateAnalysisHint();

...set factoid, coerce...

RecognizerGuide myGuide = new RecognizerGuide();

analyzer.AddStrokes(tempInk.Strokes);
analyzer.SetStrokesLanguageId(tempInk.Strokes,getC ountryID(Languages.English_United_Kingdom.ToString ()));
AnalysisStatus status = analyzer.Analyze();

...
}

Traversing the results I see, that only for a
"Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode" I get the confidence value (but I don't get
a result there...)

Can anyone give me a hint?

The result in a xml structure I receive is:

<icr_response successful="True" message="Started.">
<element type="Microsoft.Ink.RootNode">
<rectangle />
<results>
<result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
<shape shapeType="" />
</result>
</results>
<element type="Microsoft.Ink.WritingRegionNode">
<rectangle>
<upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
<lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
</rectangle>
<results>
<result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
<shape shapeType="" />
</result>
</results>
<element type="Microsoft.Ink.ParagraphNode">
<rectangle>
<upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
<lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
</rectangle>
<results>
<result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
<shape shapeType="" />
</result>
</results>
<element type="Microsoft.Ink.LineNode">
<rectangle>
<upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
<lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
</rectangle>
<results>
<result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
<shape shapeType="" />
</result>
</results>
<element type="Microsoft.Ink.InkWordNode">
<rectangle>
<upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
<lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
</rectangle>
<results>
<result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
<shape shapeType="" />
</result>
</results>
</element>
</element>
</element>
</element>
<element type="Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode">
<rectangle />
<results>
<result text="" confidence="Strong">
<shape shapeType="" />
</result>
</results>
</element>
</element>
</icr>

Best regards,

Michael

The problem is solved:

The "Microsoft English (UK) Handwriting Recognizer, 2057" seems not to
support confidence values, too. But the "Microsoft English (US) Handwriting
Recognizer, 1033" does.

Best regards,

Michael

"Michael Resch" <joboe@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:5d52ohF32a802U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hello,
>
> as discussed earlier in this group, the MS HWR engine does not provide
> confidence values for german language. In the case of restricting the
> result to digits, of course we could switch to english recognition
> language for getting confidence values.
>
> using(InkAnalyzer analyzer = new InkAnalyzer(tempInk,invisibleForm))
> {
>
> AnalysisHintNode hintNode = analyzer.CreateAnalysisHint();
>
> ...set factoid, coerce...
>
> RecognizerGuide myGuide = new RecognizerGuide();
>
> analyzer.AddStrokes(tempInk.Strokes);
>
> analyzer.SetStrokesLanguageId(tempInk.Strokes,getC ountryID(Languages.English_United_Kingdom.ToString ()));
> AnalysisStatus status = analyzer.Analyze();
>
> ...
> }
>
> Traversing the results I see, that only for a
> "Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode" I get the confidence value (but I don't
> get a result there...)
>
> Can anyone give me a hint?
>
> The result in a xml structure I receive is:
>
> <icr_response successful="True" message="Started.">
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.RootNode">
> <rectangle />
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.WritingRegionNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.ParagraphNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.LineNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.InkWordNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> </element>
> </element>
> </element>
> </element>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode">
> <rectangle />
> <results>
> <result text="" confidence="Strong">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> </element>
> </element>
> </icr>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
>

That's correct - only the US English handwriting recognizer provides
confidence information about the recognition results.

Thanks,
Stefan Wick

"Michael Resch" wrote:

> The problem is solved:
>
> The "Microsoft English (UK) Handwriting Recognizer, 2057" seems not to
> support confidence values, too. But the "Microsoft English (US) Handwriting
> Recognizer, 1033" does.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
>
> "Michael Resch" <joboe@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:5d52ohF32a802U1@mid.individual.net...
> > Hello,
> >
> > as discussed earlier in this group, the MS HWR engine does not provide
> > confidence values for german language. In the case of restricting the
> > result to digits, of course we could switch to english recognition
> > language for getting confidence values.
> >
> > using(InkAnalyzer analyzer = new InkAnalyzer(tempInk,invisibleForm))
> > {
> >
> > AnalysisHintNode hintNode = analyzer.CreateAnalysisHint();
> >
> > ...set factoid, coerce...
> >
> > RecognizerGuide myGuide = new RecognizerGuide();
> >
> > analyzer.AddStrokes(tempInk.Strokes);
> >
> > analyzer.SetStrokesLanguageId(tempInk.Strokes,getC ountryID(Languages.English_United_Kingdom.ToString ()));
> > AnalysisStatus status = analyzer.Analyze();
> >
> > ...
> > }
> >
> > Traversing the results I see, that only for a
> > "Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode" I get the confidence value (but I don't
> > get a result there...)
> >
> > Can anyone give me a hint?
> >
> > The result in a xml structure I receive is:
> >
> > <icr_response successful="True" message="Started.">
> > <element type="Microsoft.Ink.RootNode">
> > <rectangle />
> > <results>
> > <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> > <shape shapeType="" />
> > </result>
> > </results>
> > <element type="Microsoft.Ink.WritingRegionNode">
> > <rectangle>
> > <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> > <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> > </rectangle>
> > <results>
> > <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> > <shape shapeType="" />
> > </result>
> > </results>
> > <element type="Microsoft.Ink.ParagraphNode">
> > <rectangle>
> > <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> > <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> > </rectangle>
> > <results>
> > <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> > <shape shapeType="" />
> > </result>
> > </results>
> > <element type="Microsoft.Ink.LineNode">
> > <rectangle>
> > <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> > <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> > </rectangle>
> > <results>
> > <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> > <shape shapeType="" />
> > </result>
> > </results>
> > <element type="Microsoft.Ink.InkWordNode">
> > <rectangle>
> > <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> > <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> > </rectangle>
> > <results>
> > <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> > <shape shapeType="" />
> > </result>
> > </results>
> > </element>
> > </element>
> > </element>
> > </element>
> > <element type="Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode">
> > <rectangle />
> > <results>
> > <result text="" confidence="Strong">
> > <shape shapeType="" />
> > </result>
> > </results>
> > </element>
> > </element>
> > </icr>
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
>
>

Hi Michael, good to see your problem is resolved. I wanted to recommend that
you download my Ink Analyzer Explorer application at www.einsteintech.net
which will let you experiment with the Ink Analyzer and see how it responds
to certain properties and also lets you interactively explore the context
node tree.

http://www.einsteintech.net/apps/Dis...app=IAExplorer

--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com


"Michael Resch" <joboe@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:5d52ohF32a802U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hello,
>
> as discussed earlier in this group, the MS HWR engine does not provide
> confidence values for german language. In the case of restricting the
> result to digits, of course we could switch to english recognition
> language for getting confidence values.
>
> using(InkAnalyzer analyzer = new InkAnalyzer(tempInk,invisibleForm))
> {
>
> AnalysisHintNode hintNode = analyzer.CreateAnalysisHint();
>
> ...set factoid, coerce...
>
> RecognizerGuide myGuide = new RecognizerGuide();
>
> analyzer.AddStrokes(tempInk.Strokes);
>
> analyzer.SetStrokesLanguageId(tempInk.Strokes,getC ountryID(Languages.English_United_Kingdom.ToString ()));
> AnalysisStatus status = analyzer.Analyze();
>
> ...
> }
>
> Traversing the results I see, that only for a
> "Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode" I get the confidence value (but I don't
> get a result there...)
>
> Can anyone give me a hint?
>
> The result in a xml structure I receive is:
>
> <icr_response successful="True" message="Started.">
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.RootNode">
> <rectangle />
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.WritingRegionNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.ParagraphNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.LineNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.InkWordNode">
> <rectangle>
> <upperleft x="3386" y="5280" />
> <lowerright x="3588" y="5455" />
> </rectangle>
> <results>
> <result text="17" confidence="Unknown">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> </element>
> </element>
> </element>
> </element>
> <element type="Microsoft.Ink.AnalysisHintNode">
> <rectangle />
> <results>
> <result text="" confidence="Strong">
> <shape shapeType="" />
> </result>
> </results>
> </element>
> </element>
> </icr>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
>