Todd Allcock wrote:
>At 03 Apr 2009 02:20:04 +0200 Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> Apparently mail2web.com is moving to MS Exchange 2007, and now want
>> $4.95 per month for ActiveSync or Mobile Access.
>>
>> Is there any other free MS Exchange server that I can use my
Windows
>> Mobile 6 Smartphone to pick up Outlook e-mail from?
>>
>> Or do I have to switch to Google Sync?
>> http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html
>
>
> I'm not aware of any other free Hosted Exchange accounts.
>
> Unfortunately, AFAIK, Google can't help you- it syncs Gmail Contacts
and
> Google Calendar over Activesync, but doesn't actually sync your
GMail via
> Activesync.
>

I get the impression that the new Exchange 2007 licensing required
mail2web.com to start charging for ActiveSync/Mobile access.

OK, so I will also need Google's
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/mail.html now.

Google is an extremely innovative company, using the Microsoft
ActiveSync protocol to offer a solution to Microsoft Windows Mobile
users, drawing away some users from Microsoft's Outlook and/or
Exchange solutions.

If G and M went into battle, G will take M's weapon (ActiveSync) and
use it against M in an exemplary manner :)

Will M (or someone else) offer free Exchange 2007 Server access to the
masses yearning to remain free who don't want to install more apps on
their phones, before an exodus occurs?

"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
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>>> Apparently mail2web.com is moving to MS Exchange 2007, and now want
>>> $4.95 per month for ActiveSync or Mobile Access.
>>>
>>> Is there any other free MS Exchange server that I can use my
> Windows
>>> Mobile 6 Smartphone to pick up Outlook e-mail from?
>>>
>>> Or do I have to switch to Google Sync?
>>> http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html
>>
>>
>> I'm not aware of any other free Hosted Exchange accounts.
>>
>> Unfortunately, AFAIK, Google can't help you- it syncs Gmail Contacts
>> and Google Calendar over Activesync, but doesn't actually sync your
>> GMail via Activesync.
>
>
> I get the impression that the new Exchange 2007 licensing required
> mail2web.com to start charging for ActiveSync/Mobile access.

Well, that's the impression mail2web gave US! AFAIK, all Exchange hosting
is licensed, so they were paying something for those free Exchange 2003
accounts and hoping to fund it with the ad banners they plastered over OWA.
I suspect the ad-supported model wasn't paying the bills, so they used the
upgrade (and perhaps a higher license fee for 2007) to announce that they
"couldn't" offer free accounts. I suspect they certainly didn't want to
continue losing money on us freeloaders. I used them soley for free push
email, so I rarely ever saw the OWA ads, because I hardly used the OWA
portal.

On the bright side, the new pricing is actually reasonable- the "full
monty"- hosted Exchange with Activesync support and a copy of Outlook 2007
and desktop MAPI access is only $10/month- they were charging $15 for that
before, IIRC.

> OK, so I will also need Google's
> http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/mail.html now.

Yep, which doesn't offer push, unfortunately.

> Google is an extremely innovative company, using the Microsoft
> ActiveSync protocol to offer a solution to Microsoft Windows Mobile
> users, drawing away some users from Microsoft's Outlook and/or
> Exchange solutions.

Um, "licensing" MS' Activesync protocol, not just "using" it.

> If G and M went into battle, G will take M's weapon (ActiveSync) and
> use it against M in an exemplary manner :)

Perhaps, but Microsoft strikes me as a company happy to let you beat them
over the head with a baseball bat, as long as you buy the bat from them!

> Will M (or someone else) offer free Exchange 2007 Server access to the
> masses yearning to remain free who don't want to install more apps on
> their phones, before an exodus occurs?

I've wondered, but I expect they'll continue adding features to Hotmail to
make it an "Exchange Lite"- The Windows Live (Hotmail) app
(wl.windowsmobile.com) gives push email and contacts sync- if they add
calendar sync down the road as well, it will be a fairly complete free sync
solution, but awkward and limited enough that it won'tt cannabalize sales of
hosted Exchange.

I use Funambol.com's Funambol software with the ScheduleWorld server for
free OTA PIM sync between my WinMo phones and several PCs running Outlook.
For me, mail2web was only for push email, which I'm now transitioning to my
rarely used Hotmail account with the Windows Live mobile app. Hotmail push
is a little laggy- it often takes up to 5 minutes to receive an email ,where
mail2web was generally within a minute or two, but it's hard to complain
considering what I'm paying for it! ;-)





>

This is going to sound terrible, but I really cannot wait until these "Free"
ad sponsored sites and other marketing sponsored items come crashing down
and start charging instead of collecting information which sets you up for
fraud. The mass amount of data and personal information these sites are
collecting (and Yes, they are sharing the information) is getting obscense.

Now whenever I go to some place like Amazon or even my first trip to another
site that requires something like an email addresss I get prompted to
purchase a bunch of products and services. They are clearly close enough to
know that someone is tracking searches and purchases. If people like us
that are pretty savvy with our computers and mobile devices are being
tracked, what hope does the average Joe and grandmother with the new
computer have.

Back to the OP point about charging.... Eventuanlly they are all going to
have to start charging because ad revenue is being focused on fewer and
fewer sites. The shake out will force most of the revenue to biggies like
Google so they will be safe for years to come, but wanna bees will be
charging soon enough.



"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
> news:3e4499440575c75551558b641d384ba3@dizum.com...
>
>>>> Apparently mail2web.com is moving to MS Exchange 2007, and now want
>>>> $4.95 per month for ActiveSync or Mobile Access.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any other free MS Exchange server that I can use my
>> Windows
>>>> Mobile 6 Smartphone to pick up Outlook e-mail from?
>>>>
>>>> Or do I have to switch to Google Sync?
>>>> http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not aware of any other free Hosted Exchange accounts.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, AFAIK, Google can't help you- it syncs Gmail Contacts
>>> and Google Calendar over Activesync, but doesn't actually sync your
>>> GMail via Activesync.
>>
>>
>> I get the impression that the new Exchange 2007 licensing required
>> mail2web.com to start charging for ActiveSync/Mobile access.
>
> Well, that's the impression mail2web gave US! AFAIK, all Exchange hosting
> is licensed, so they were paying something for those free Exchange 2003
> accounts and hoping to fund it with the ad banners they plastered over
> OWA. I suspect the ad-supported model wasn't paying the bills, so they
> used the upgrade (and perhaps a higher license fee for 2007) to announce
> that they "couldn't" offer free accounts. I suspect they certainly didn't
> want to continue losing money on us freeloaders. I used them soley for
> free push email, so I rarely ever saw the OWA ads, because I hardly used
> the OWA portal.
>
> On the bright side, the new pricing is actually reasonable- the "full
> monty"- hosted Exchange with Activesync support and a copy of Outlook 2007
> and desktop MAPI access is only $10/month- they were charging $15 for that
> before, IIRC.
>
>> OK, so I will also need Google's
>> http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/mail.html now.
>
> Yep, which doesn't offer push, unfortunately.
>
>> Google is an extremely innovative company, using the Microsoft
>> ActiveSync protocol to offer a solution to Microsoft Windows Mobile
>> users, drawing away some users from Microsoft's Outlook and/or
>> Exchange solutions.
>
> Um, "licensing" MS' Activesync protocol, not just "using" it.
>
>> If G and M went into battle, G will take M's weapon (ActiveSync) and
>> use it against M in an exemplary manner :)
>
> Perhaps, but Microsoft strikes me as a company happy to let you beat them
> over the head with a baseball bat, as long as you buy the bat from them!
>
>> Will M (or someone else) offer free Exchange 2007 Server access to the
>> masses yearning to remain free who don't want to install more apps on
>> their phones, before an exodus occurs?
>
> I've wondered, but I expect they'll continue adding features to Hotmail to
> make it an "Exchange Lite"- The Windows Live (Hotmail) app
> (wl.windowsmobile.com) gives push email and contacts sync- if they add
> calendar sync down the road as well, it will be a fairly complete free
> sync solution, but awkward and limited enough that it won'tt cannabalize
> sales of hosted Exchange.
>
> I use Funambol.com's Funambol software with the ScheduleWorld server for
> free OTA PIM sync between my WinMo phones and several PCs running Outlook.
> For me, mail2web was only for push email, which I'm now transitioning to
> my rarely used Hotmail account with the Windows Live mobile app. Hotmail
> push is a little laggy- it often takes up to 5 minutes to receive an email
> ,where mail2web was generally within a minute or two, but it's hard to
> complain considering what I'm paying for it! ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
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