does anyone knows how to configure a Smartphone (e.g. Cingular BlackJack) so
that it will use the ActiveSync PassThrough to connect to the internet
through my PC (when it is connected to ActiveSync)?

someone suggested that i use a proxy, but that's not what i want. i want
the Smartphone to use the ActiveSync PassThrough.

apparently the BlackJack has no setting item to tell what connection should
be used to access the internet (i.e. GSM or USB-ActiveSync-TassThrough).

All the Smartphone emulators can connect through the ActiveSync PassThrough.
is that not possible with real smartphones?

any suggestion?

I can tell you it is possible, and I would have said default, were it not
for your issue. My wife's SmartFlip just does it. Doesn't even need to be
partnered. When I hook it to my PC for loading programs etc, I just connect
as guest. Uses the home network and internet link just fine via
Pass-Through. Most be some configuration issue but I couldn't guess what.
I-Mate provides cab files for most of their phones for many carriers that
you just run and it sets it up for that carrier.

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"The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
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> does anyone knows how to configure a Smartphone (e.g. Cingular BlackJack)
> so that it will use the ActiveSync PassThrough to connect to the internet
> through my PC (when it is connected to ActiveSync)?
>
> someone suggested that i use a proxy, but that's not what i want. i want
> the Smartphone to use the ActiveSync PassThrough.
>
> apparently the BlackJack has no setting item to tell what connection
> should be used to access the internet (i.e. GSM or
> USB-ActiveSync-TassThrough).
>
> All the Smartphone emulators can connect through the ActiveSync
> PassThrough. is that not possible with real smartphones?
>
> any suggestion?
>
>

ok, thanks.

so that's quite what i thought:

it looks like a bug in the Cingular BlackJack, i.e. the BlackJack is not
capable of using the Pass-Through.


"Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
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>I can tell you it is possible, and I would have said default, were it not
>for your issue. My wife's SmartFlip just does it. Doesn't even need to be
>partnered. When I hook it to my PC for loading programs etc, I just connect
>as guest. Uses the home network and internet link just fine via
>Pass-Through. Most be some configuration issue but I couldn't guess what.
>I-Mate provides cab files for most of their phones for many carriers that
>you just run and it sets it up for that carrier.
>
> --
> Sven
> MVP - Mobile Devices
> "The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
> news:Obll4PUJHHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> does anyone knows how to configure a Smartphone (e.g. Cingular BlackJack)
>> so that it will use the ActiveSync PassThrough to connect to the internet
>> through my PC (when it is connected to ActiveSync)?
>>
>> someone suggested that i use a proxy, but that's not what i want. i want
>> the Smartphone to use the ActiveSync PassThrough.
>>
>> apparently the BlackJack has no setting item to tell what connection
>> should be used to access the internet (i.e. GSM or
>> USB-ActiveSync-TassThrough).
>>
>> All the Smartphone emulators can connect through the ActiveSync
>> PassThrough. is that not possible with real smartphones?
>>
>> any suggestion?
>>
>>
>
>

I'd lean more toward a setting somewhere. Using Pass-Through is pretty
inherent in the OS. Can you turn the cell radio off in the BlkJck? Might
force it to look for another option. We are still creating a little network
between the device and the PC, which typically is not on the same subnet
your home (work) network is on. That's what messes with firewalls and such.
Does Pass-Through work with other devices on the same PC? If so, then
naturally you'd look to the device for the problem.

There is the possibility that Samsung or Cingular disabled the PT, but I
can't imagine why they'd go through the trouble. Can't imagine most folks
would opt to browse the net on a 2" screen when within USB cable distance
off a regular monitor and keyboard.

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Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
"The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
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> ok, thanks.
>
> so that's quite what i thought:
>
> it looks like a bug in the Cingular BlackJack, i.e. the BlackJack is not
> capable of using the Pass-Through.
>
>
> "Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
> news:ehzr4fXJHHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I can tell you it is possible, and I would have said default, were it not
>>for your issue. My wife's SmartFlip just does it. Doesn't even need to be
>>partnered. When I hook it to my PC for loading programs etc, I just
>>connect as guest. Uses the home network and internet link just fine via
>>Pass-Through. Most be some configuration issue but I couldn't guess what.
>>I-Mate provides cab files for most of their phones for many carriers that
>>you just run and it sets it up for that carrier.
>>
>> --
>> Sven
>> MVP - Mobile Devices
>> "The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
>> news:Obll4PUJHHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> does anyone knows how to configure a Smartphone (e.g. Cingular
>>> BlackJack) so that it will use the ActiveSync PassThrough to connect to
>>> the internet through my PC (when it is connected to ActiveSync)?
>>>
>>> someone suggested that i use a proxy, but that's not what i want. i
>>> want the Smartphone to use the ActiveSync PassThrough.
>>>
>>> apparently the BlackJack has no setting item to tell what connection
>>> should be used to access the internet (i.e. GSM or
>>> USB-ActiveSync-TassThrough).
>>>
>>> All the Smartphone emulators can connect through the ActiveSync
>>> PassThrough. is that not possible with real smartphones?
>>>
>>> any suggestion?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
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> I'd lean more toward a setting somewhere.

i think i've tried about all the relevent ones.

> Using Pass-Through is pretty inherent in the OS. Can you turn the cell
> radio off in the BlkJck?

yes, i tried that, no effect.

> Might force it to look for another option. We are still creating a little
> network between the device and the PC, which typically is not on the same
> subnet your home (work) network is on. That's what messes with firewalls
> and such. Does Pass-Through work with other devices on the same PC?

yes, it works with all the devices i tried and all the emulators, too, on
the same PC. it's not a firewall issue. the BlackJack always tried to
access the network through its wireless radio, even when sync'ed.

> If so, then naturally you'd look to the device for the problem.

that's my feeling.

> There is the possibility that Samsung or Cingular disabled the PT, but I
> can't imagine why they'd go through the trouble.

maybe they didn't do it on purpose, but they created a bug that prevents it.

> Can't imagine most folks would opt to browse the net on a 2" screen when
> within USB cable distance off a regular monitor and keyboard.

whether it makes sense or not for most people is irrelevent. it should
work, and it does not.

> --
> Sven
> MVP - Mobile Devices
> "The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
> news:e5rFL5XJHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> ok, thanks.
>>
>> so that's quite what i thought:
>>
>> it looks like a bug in the Cingular BlackJack, i.e. the BlackJack is not
>> capable of using the Pass-Through.
>>
>>
>> "Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
>> news:ehzr4fXJHHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I can tell you it is possible, and I would have said default, were it not
>>>for your issue. My wife's SmartFlip just does it. Doesn't even need to be
>>>partnered. When I hook it to my PC for loading programs etc, I just
>>>connect as guest. Uses the home network and internet link just fine via
>>>Pass-Through. Most be some configuration issue but I couldn't guess what.
>>>I-Mate provides cab files for most of their phones for many carriers that
>>>you just run and it sets it up for that carrier.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sven
>>> MVP - Mobile Devices
>>> "The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Obll4PUJHHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> does anyone knows how to configure a Smartphone (e.g. Cingular
>>>> BlackJack) so that it will use the ActiveSync PassThrough to connect to
>>>> the internet through my PC (when it is connected to ActiveSync)?
>>>>
>>>> someone suggested that i use a proxy, but that's not what i want. i
>>>> want the Smartphone to use the ActiveSync PassThrough.
>>>>
>>>> apparently the BlackJack has no setting item to tell what connection
>>>> should be used to access the internet (i.e. GSM or
>>>> USB-ActiveSync-TassThrough).
>>>>
>>>> All the Smartphone emulators can connect through the ActiveSync
>>>> PassThrough. is that not possible with real smartphones?
>>>>
>>>> any suggestion?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

My point there was that I wouldn't think SamCing would bother disabling
something most wouldn't use much anyway.

--
Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
>
>> Can't imagine most folks would opt to browse the net on a 2" screen when
>> within USB cable distance off a regular monitor and keyboard.
>
> whether it makes sense or not for most people is irrelevent. it should
> work, and it does not.
>
>> --
>> Sven
>> MVP - Mobile Devices
>

"Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
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> My point there was that I wouldn't think SamCing would bother disabling
> something most wouldn't use much anyway.

Not Samsung. however Cingular charges for bandwidth - unless you take a
dataplan that brings your cellphone bill to a minimum of $100 per month - so
they definitely do not want the phone to use the PassThrough.

so apparently MSFT does not check that Smartphones should have the
PassThrough feature working, as part of their platform validation tests.

> Sven
> MVP - Mobile Devices
>>
>>> Can't imagine most folks would opt to browse the net on a 2" screen
>>> when within USB cable distance off a regular monitor and keyboard.
>>
>> whether it makes sense or not for most people is irrelevent. it should
>> work, and it does not.
>>
>>> --
>>> Sven
>>> MVP - Mobile Devices
>>
>
>

Come on now. I've got an unlimited data plan with Cingular and it's $20 a
month on top of the cell bill. I've got three phones on the account, two
with unlimited data and it's only $120/mo. Certainly you can pay more, but
don't count an exorbitant voice plan as the excuse. My T-Mobile with
unlimited Data and Wifi (T-Mobile Hotspot) is only $60/month.

Sure Cingular wants to sell you the data plan along with the phone that can
use it, but do you imagine they think that disabling Pass-Through is going
to force folks to do that? The point of a data enabled phone is to get the
data at places other than sitting at your desk in front of your PC. I would
think seeing what you can do while tethered to your desk and AS, would
increase peoples desire to get that data plan so they could surf and stuff
while out and about.

And it's MSFT fault, if in fact Cingular decided to have Samsung disable
Pass-Through? Which I still find hard to believe BTW.



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MVP - Mobile Devices
"The PocketTV Team" <support@pockettv.com> wrote in message
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> "Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23tT0U1gJHHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> My point there was that I wouldn't think SamCing would bother disabling
>> something most wouldn't use much anyway.
>
> Not Samsung. however Cingular charges for bandwidth - unless you take a
> dataplan that brings your cellphone bill to a minimum of $100 per month -
> so they definitely do not want the phone to use the PassThrough.
>
> so apparently MSFT does not check that Smartphones should have the
> PassThrough feature working, as part of their platform validation tests.
>
>> Sven
>> MVP - Mobile Devices
>>>
>>>> Can't imagine most folks would opt to browse the net on a 2" screen
>>>> when within USB cable distance off a regular monitor and keyboard.
>>>
>>> whether it makes sense or not for most people is irrelevent. it should
>>> work, and it does not.
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sven
>>>> MVP - Mobile Devices
>>>
>>
>>
>
>