Could anybody tell me how to set my mobile phone (Windows Mobile 6.1) to NOT
observe daylight savings time? I live in South Africa, where DST is not
observed. All my appointments on my phone is now out of sync with those on
my desktop (Sync using exchange server).

Thanks!
Jaunine

At 27 Nov 2008 23:34:01 -0800 Jaunine wrote:
> Could anybody tell me how to set my mobile phone (Windows Mobile 6.1) to
NOT
> observe daylight savings time? I live in South Africa, where DST is not
> observed. All my appointments on my phone is now out of sync with those
on
> my desktop (Sync using exchange server).


Windows Mobile has no setting to observe (or not to observe) DST. That
setting is integrated into the time zone selection. For example, both the
London, England and Casablanca settings are in GMT +/- 0, but London
observes DST and Casablanca doesn't, so anyone in GMT 0 that doesn't
observe DST can choose "Casablanca" as their time zone.

Similarly, you just need to figure out which of the GMT +2 zones on the
device doesn't observe DST, if any, and use that zone on the device.

To add just a little, Just select one of the other GMT +2 zones and see if
that puts your appoints back where you want them. If not, try another.
Changing the selected zone, doesn't actually change all your appointment
times, they are stored in a universal format. The time zone only changes the
offset used when displaying the appointments, so you can't really hurt much.
As Todd mentioned, the differences in the options that are in the same
timezone, such as GMT +2, would be whether or not DST is observed at all, or
sometimes when the start and stop dates are.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
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> At 27 Nov 2008 23:34:01 -0800 Jaunine wrote:
>> Could anybody tell me how to set my mobile phone (Windows Mobile 6.1) to
> NOT
>> observe daylight savings time? I live in South Africa, where DST is not
>> observed. All my appointments on my phone is now out of sync with those
> on
>> my desktop (Sync using exchange server).
>
>
> Windows Mobile has no setting to observe (or not to observe) DST. That
> setting is integrated into the time zone selection. For example, both the
> London, England and Casablanca settings are in GMT +/- 0, but London
> observes DST and Casablanca doesn't, so anyone in GMT 0 that doesn't
> observe DST can choose "Casablanca" as their time zone.
>
> Similarly, you just need to figure out which of the GMT +2 zones on the
> device doesn't observe DST, if any, and use that zone on the device.
>
>

Thanks for the replies. That was most helpful. As soon as I set my phone's
time zone to Pretoria (A blonde moment there!), the time was changed and my
appointments synced correctly with those on my exchange server. However...
Every time I set the timezone, about 30 minutes after, my the operating
system freezes. I do a reset, and as soon as the phone comes on again, I'm
yanked back to Prague Time zone. So you guys have any idea of what's wrong?
Since my phone was on South African time when I purchased it, I'm guessing
that this bug, causing me to have to reboot, to have caused the strange
Prague setting.



"Sven" wrote:

> To add just a little, Just select one of the other GMT +2 zones and see if
> that puts your appoints back where you want them. If not, try another.
> Changing the selected zone, doesn't actually change all your appointment
> times, they are stored in a universal format. The time zone only changes the
> offset used when displaying the appointments, so you can't really hurt much.
> As Todd mentioned, the differences in the options that are in the same
> timezone, such as GMT +2, would be whether or not DST is observed at all, or
> sometimes when the start and stop dates are.
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> news:ggpj64$7m1$2@aioe.org...
> > At 27 Nov 2008 23:34:01 -0800 Jaunine wrote:
> >> Could anybody tell me how to set my mobile phone (Windows Mobile 6.1) to
> > NOT
> >> observe daylight savings time? I live in South Africa, where DST is not
> >> observed. All my appointments on my phone is now out of sync with those
> > on
> >> my desktop (Sync using exchange server).
> >
> >
> > Windows Mobile has no setting to observe (or not to observe) DST. That
> > setting is integrated into the time zone selection. For example, both the
> > London, England and Casablanca settings are in GMT +/- 0, but London
> > observes DST and Casablanca doesn't, so anyone in GMT 0 that doesn't
> > observe DST can choose "Casablanca" as their time zone.
> >
> > Similarly, you just need to figure out which of the GMT +2 zones on the
> > device doesn't observe DST, if any, and use that zone on the device.
> >
> >
>

At 02 Dec 2008 00:37:01 -0800 Jaunine wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. That was most helpful. As soon as I set my
phone's
> time zone to Pretoria (A blonde moment there!), the time was changed and
my
> appointments synced correctly with those on my exchange server.
However...
> Every time I set the timezone, about 30 minutes after, my the operating
> system freezes. I do a reset, and as soon as the phone comes on again,
I'm
> yanked back to Prague Time zone. So you guys have any idea of what's
wrong?
> Since my phone was on South African time when I purchased it, I'm
guessing
> that this bug, causing me to have to reboot, to have caused the strange
> Prague setting.



Most likely, your mobile operator is forcing the incorrect time zone
setting onto your phone. Check if you can deselect that feature on the
phone. On mine (an HTC Kaiser) it's under Start / Settings / Phone / Time
Zone (Tab) with a box that you can tick that says "Automatically change
time zone and clock."

You're a star! Thank you Todd. I found the setting exactly where you said I
would, made the adjustment, and now it seems to be doing just fine (touch
wood). Thanks a bunch!

Glad you found a fix. Your problem was not actually unusual. It happens here
in the US often as well. We have places where they do not observe DST, that
are very close to places that do, or places that are at time zone
boundaries, where the phone may be picking up signals from a different TZ
broadcast than the TZ it is in.

For those places it is best to not let the network set the Time/TZ.
Unfortunately those two items are typically linked. I would love to see the
ability to let the network set the time, keeping the time accurate, but not
the TZ, keeping it from shifting all the appointments around. I expect the
DST issue is when there are multiple TZ entries for a particular TZ, and the
carrier is just sending the offset. I expect the OS probably just grabs the
first entry for that particular TZ, which may not be the one that treats DST
correctly for you.

"Jaunine" <Jaunine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> You're a star! Thank you Todd. I found the setting exactly where you said
> I
> would, made the adjustment, and now it seems to be doing just fine (touch
> wood). Thanks a bunch!

"Sven" <sejohannsen********.com> wrote in message
news:05EF3C3C-5330-4584-AAD2-B0892A6C8097@microsoft.com...
> Glad you found a fix. Your problem was not actually unusual. It happens
> here in the US often as well. We have places where they do not observe
> DST, that are very close to places that do, or places that are at time
> zone boundaries, where the phone may be picking up signals from a
> different TZ broadcast than the TZ it is in.
>
> For those places it is best to not let the network set the Time/TZ.
> Unfortunately those two items are typically linked. I would love to see
> the ability to let the network set the time, keeping the time accurate,
> but not the TZ, keeping it from shifting all the appointments around.

Agreed. A few GPS apps I've used, (like Mapopolis and Pharos Ostia off the
top of my head) offered a feature to set the system clock from GPS system
time. That's handy when you disable network time updating.

> I expect the DST issue is when there are multiple TZ entries for a
> particular TZ, and the carrier is just sending the offset. I expect the OS
> probably just grabs the first entry for that particular TZ, which may not
> be the one that treats DST correctly for you.

That seems to be the case- my Denver (GMT -7)-based T-Mobile MDA used to
switch to "GMT -6 Sasketchewan" during the summer, rather than stay at GMT-7
Denver plus the DST offset. I stopped letting the MDA pick up the TZ from
T-Mobile. (Which annoyingly required a registry edit to make the TZ option
page visible to disable it!)

My AT&T Tilt (unlocked on T-Mobile) is behaving better, but I assume that's
because T-Mo has probably "fixed" the issue to better support their WinMo
devices. I haven't had to disable the TZ override- at least not yet.
Arizona users (AZ doesn't observe DST) complained that their appointment
times shifted an hour last summer- T-Mo apparently switched their zone to
compensate for the DST offset rather than just not apply a DST offset to the
timing in Arizona.