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Old 09-12-2008, 02:42 AM
Terry Holland
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Programming SPV C500

I attempted to write my first application for my mobile and ran into a few
problems.

I have an SPV C500 (unlocked) which runs Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14217)

I am using Visual Studio 2005 Professional to develop. I managed to create
a simple SmartPhone (1) application which allowed me to enter some date into
textboxes and run a calculation based on these values.

These are the problems Ive encountered
1) Cant trap Button Events
When I try to trap the KeyDown event, the method never executes unless I
remove the form menues. If I do this then I am able to code the keys F1 & F2
but no other keys fire this event. How do I overcome this?

2) My form has a lot of texbox controls all of which need to run the same
code in response to a KeyDown event (which I am unable to trap!!). When I
try to use the AddHandler keyword, none of my textboxes appear in the
intelli-sense list of controls

3) I dont seem to be able to refer to any of my controls by name. ie
Me.Controls("MyTextBox1")

4) When I deploy the application to my handset (or emulator), the action of
the Up/Down key seems to randomly switch tab direction ie the first time I
deployed, Down resulted in focus moving to textbox below the one that
currently has the focus and the Up resulted in focus moving to the textbox
above. The third time I deployed, the Up moved focus to textbox below and
vice versa.

5) I want to be able to set the input mode for my textboxes to numeric.
I tried InputModeEditor.SetInputMode(textBox2, InputMode.Numeric) but this
does not compile.


In an attempt to resolve some of these issues I tried to update to compact
framework 2. The result of this is that I am now unable to open the project
at all. I get a message saying I need compact framework 1 (which is
installed). Can framewors 1 & 2 not co-exist?

On a general note, is it possible to update the o/s on my handset to windows
mobile 5? I cant find any ref to this on anything except on peer-to-peer
sites. Any advice welcome



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Re: Programming SPV C500

Questions about programming are far more likely to get useful answers
if asked in a newsgroup for programmers. So you might try
microsoft.public.smartphone.developers. More below (in line).


On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:12:01 -0700, Terry Holland
<MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:

>I attempted to write my first application for my mobile and ran into a few
>problems.
>
>I have an SPV C500 (unlocked) which runs Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
>Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14217)
>
>I am using Visual Studio 2005 Professional to develop. I managed to create
>a simple SmartPhone (1) application which allowed me to enter some date into
>textboxes and run a calculation based on these values.


I'm pretty sure the SDK you should use is for Smartphone 2003. What
SDK are you using?


Skip questions I can't answer.


>
>On a general note, is it possible to update the o/s on my handset to windows
>mobile 5? I cant find any ref to this on anything except on peer-to-peer
>sites. Any advice welcome


Upgrades for Windows CE, and platforms like Windows Mobile based on
it, are entirely up to OEMs (the folks who make the phones/PDAs) and a
few vendors (like cell phone carriers). If you can't get an upgrade
from one of them, you can't get a legal upgrade. I just used google
(http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en) to look up
spv c500 upgrade
and got 169,000 hits. I took a very quick look and think some are
relevant and useful.


>
>


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Re: Programming SPV C500

I cant seem to find a microsoft group for smartphone developers. do you know
of one?

"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:

> Questions about programming are far more likely to get useful answers
> if asked in a newsgroup for programmers. So you might try
> microsoft.public.smartphone.developers. More below (in line).
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:12:01 -0700, Terry Holland
> <MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
> >I attempted to write my first application for my mobile and ran into a few
> >problems.
> >
> >I have an SPV C500 (unlocked) which runs Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
> >Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14217)
> >
> >I am using Visual Studio 2005 Professional to develop. I managed to create
> >a simple SmartPhone (1) application which allowed me to enter some date into
> >textboxes and run a calculation based on these values.

>
> I'm pretty sure the SDK you should use is for Smartphone 2003. What
> SDK are you using?
>
>
> Skip questions I can't answer.
>
>
> >
> >On a general note, is it possible to update the o/s on my handset to windows
> >mobile 5? I cant find any ref to this on anything except on peer-to-peer
> >sites. Any advice welcome

>
> Upgrades for Windows CE, and platforms like Windows Mobile based on
> it, are entirely up to OEMs (the folks who make the phones/PDAs) and a
> few vendors (like cell phone carriers). If you can't get an upgrade
> from one of them, you can't get a legal upgrade. I just used google
> (http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en) to look up
> spv c500 upgrade
> and got 169,000 hits. I took a very quick look and think some are
> relevant and useful.
>
>
> >
> >

>
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>
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> PenFact, Inc.
> 20 Park Plaza, Suite 478
> Boston, MA 02116
> www.penfact.com
>

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Re: Programming SPV C500

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:38:14 -0700, Terry Holland
<MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:

>I cant seem to find a microsoft group for smartphone developers. do you know
>of one?


I gave the name of one in my earlier reply. Also, I just used group
search (http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&) to look up
smartphone key down event
and got 131 hits. I took a quick look and see several that look
relevant. I definitely saw references to two potentially appropriate
newsgroups.


>
>"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:
>
>> Questions about programming are far more likely to get useful answers
>> if asked in a newsgroup for programmers. So you might try
>> microsoft.public.smartphone.developers. More below (in line).
>>
>>


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Re: Programming SPV C500

The newsgroup microsoft.public.smartphone.developers doesnt seem to exist.
I am trawling through the results of the search. What I have not been able
to find is a facility to upgrade that doesnt involve Orange. Orange is the
company that supplied me with phone and contract. My contract expired 1 year
ago and I switched to another provider. I unlocked my handset to allow me to
use sim from any network. I have tried going along the Orange upgrade paths,
but as I dont have an Orange number any more I am prevented from continuing

"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:38:14 -0700, Terry Holland
> <MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
> >I cant seem to find a microsoft group for smartphone developers. do you know
> >of one?

>
> I gave the name of one in my earlier reply. Also, I just used group
> search (http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&) to look up
> smartphone key down event
> and got 131 hits. I took a quick look and see several that look
> relevant. I definitely saw references to two potentially appropriate
> newsgroups.
>
>
> >
> >"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:
> >
> >> Questions about programming are far more likely to get useful answers
> >> if asked in a newsgroup for programmers. So you might try
> >> microsoft.public.smartphone.developers. More below (in line).
> >>
> >>

>
> -----------------------------------------
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>
> Robert E. Zaret, eMVP
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> 20 Park Plaza, Suite 478
> Boston, MA 02116
> www.penfact.com
>

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Re: Programming SPV C500

Bon(ne) après-midi,


Le 13/08/2008 à 11:14:02, Terry Holland écrivait :
microsoft.public.smartphone.developer does

> The newsgroup microsoft.public.smartphone.developers doesnt seem to exist.
> I am trawling through the results of the search. What I have not been able
> to find is a facility to upgrade that doesnt involve Orange. Orange is the
> company that supplied me with phone and contract. My contract expired 1 year
> ago and I switched to another provider. I unlocked my handset to allow me to
> use sim from any network. I have tried going along the Orange upgrade paths,
> but as I dont have an Orange number any more I am prevented from continuing


[...]

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Re: Programming SPV C500

Hello,

microsoft.public.smartphone.developer does

Le 13/08/2008 à 11:14:02, Terry Holland écrivait :

> The newsgroup microsoft.public.smartphone.developers doesnt seem to exist.
> I am trawling through the results of the search. What I have not been able
> to find is a facility to upgrade that doesnt involve Orange. Orange is the
> company that supplied me with phone and contract. My contract expired 1 year
> ago and I switched to another provider. I unlocked my handset to allow me to
> use sim from any network. I have tried going along the Orange upgrade paths,
> but as I dont have an Orange number any more I am prevented from continuing


[...]

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Re: Programming SPV C500

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:14:02 -0700, Terry Holland
<MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:

>The newsgroup microsoft.public.smartphone.developers doesnt seem to exist.


It certainly exists for me. How are you looking?


>I am trawling through the results of the search. What I have not been able
>to find is a facility to upgrade that doesnt involve Orange. Orange is the
>company that supplied me with phone and contract. My contract expired 1 year
>ago and I switched to another provider. I unlocked my handset to allow me to
>use sim from any network. I have tried going along the Orange upgrade paths,
>but as I dont have an Orange number any more I am prevented from continuing


Few OEMs provide upgrades, so I'm surprised Orange does/did. Carriers
tend to be tough, so I'm not surprised they're unhelpful for a
nonsubscriber.

I know some good, if not so legal, ROM upgrades exist for some cell
phones. I don't know about yours. I know some very bad upgrades exist,
and using the wrong one or not installing an upgrade can "brick" (as
in "turn into a useless brick") a device. So be sure the upgrade is
worth pursuing.

>
>"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:38:14 -0700, Terry Holland
>> <MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>
>> >I cant seem to find a microsoft group for smartphone developers. do you know
>> >of one?

>>
>> I gave the name of one in my earlier reply. Also, I just used group
>> search (http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&) to look up
>> smartphone key down event
>> and got 131 hits. I took a quick look and see several that look
>> relevant. I definitely saw references to two potentially appropriate
>> newsgroups.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Questions about programming are far more likely to get useful answers
>> >> if asked in a newsgroup for programmers. So you might try
>> >> microsoft.public.smartphone.developers. More below (in line).
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>> To reply to me, remove the underscores (_) from my email address (and please indicate which newsgroup and message).
>>
>> Robert E. Zaret, eMVP
>> PenFact, Inc.
>> 20 Park Plaza, Suite 478
>> Boston, MA 02116
>> www.penfact.com
>>


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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:11:33 -0400, r_z_aret@pen_fact.com wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:14:02 -0700, Terry Holland
><MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>>The newsgroup microsoft.public.smartphone.developers doesnt seem to exist.

>
>It certainly exists for me. How are you looking?
>
>
>>I am trawling through the results of the search. What I have not been able
>>to find is a facility to upgrade that doesnt involve Orange. Orange is the
>>company that supplied me with phone and contract. My contract expired 1 year
>>ago and I switched to another provider. I unlocked my handset to allow me to
>>use sim from any network. I have tried going along the Orange upgrade paths,
>>but as I dont have an Orange number any more I am prevented from continuing

>
>Few OEMs provide upgrades, so I'm surprised Orange does/did. Carriers
>tend to be tough, so I'm not surprised they're unhelpful for a
>nonsubscriber.
>
>I know some good, if not so legal, ROM upgrades exist for some cell
>phones. I don't know about yours. I know some very bad upgrades exist,
>and using the wrong one or not installing an upgrade can "brick" (as


oops. Should be "not installing an upgrade correctly".

>in "turn into a useless brick") a device. So be sure the upgrade is
>worth pursuing.
>
>>
>>"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:38:14 -0700, Terry Holland
>>> <MSDNNospam248@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I cant seem to find a microsoft group for smartphone developers. do you know
>>> >of one?
>>>
>>> I gave the name of one in my earlier reply. Also, I just used group
>>> search (http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&) to look up
>>> smartphone key down event
>>> and got 131 hits. I took a quick look and see several that look
>>> relevant. I definitely saw references to two potentially appropriate
>>> newsgroups.
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >"r_z_aret@pen_fact.com" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Questions about programming are far more likely to get useful answers
>>> >> if asked in a newsgroup for programmers. So you might try
>>> >> microsoft.public.smartphone.developers. More below (in line).
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>> To reply to me, remove the underscores (_) from my email address (and please indicate which newsgroup and message).
>>>
>>> Robert E. Zaret, eMVP
>>> PenFact, Inc.
>>> 20 Park Plaza, Suite 478
>>> Boston, MA 02116
>>> www.penfact.com
>>>

>
>-----------------------------------------
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>
>Robert E. Zaret, eMVP
>PenFact, Inc.
>20 Park Plaza, Suite 478
>Boston, MA 02116
>www.penfact.com


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