O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 (= HTC TyTN II)
PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003


Hi

I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)

Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
(it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on my
PC .

I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.

Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my PC
so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At present,
about half do and
about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
up a contact
by last name or by first name!)

Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
contacts
and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
to
reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

Not an Outlook question. Determine your sync software. Ask in that group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"ship" <shiphen******.com> wrote in message
news:9ce3db52-132b-4f15-ad96-2fc663e0f9a1@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
> Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 (= HTC TyTN II)
> PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)
>
> Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
> (it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
> and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on my
> PC .
>
> I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.
>
> Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my PC
> so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At present,
> about half do and
> about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
> up a contact
> by last name or by first name!)
>
> Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
> contacts
> and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
> to
> reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
>

For future reference, the Tytn II isn't actually a Smartphone (now known as
Windows Mobile Standard) it is a PocketPC Phone Edition, technically now a
Windows Mobile Professional Device. Biggest difference is you have a touch
screen, the smartphones do not. Anyway,

Have you tried the search capability in the phone application? Open up the
phone, showing the dial pad, and start typing on the keys, the name of the
person you are looking for. Don't worry about first/last name. If it is Bob
Johnson, you can type B, O, B (numbers 2, 6, 2) and everything that has bob
in sequence will be filtered for you. You would also see things that have
AMA and COC in them if those exist in your address book as the numbers 262
can also be resolved to those letters. It is surprisingly fast. You could
have started entering Johnson, as well, 5,6,4...etc. Once you see and
highlight your target, the center action button will open the contact, so
you can select other options, other phone, e-mail, etc. , hitting the green
phone will dial the number shown.

This also works in the contacts application. Open Contacts and pull up the
keyboard. Type BOB and all the entries with Bob will be filtered for you.
You could type JOH too and you will get the Johnsons and the Johns, and
anything that has JOH starting last or first. If you have Johns Hopkins
filled as that, you will get it too.

So, you really don't need to know if it is filled First Last or Last, First,
the search feature will find it for you.

Finally you could try SBSHs ContactBreeze,
http://www.sbsh.net/product.php?id=14 , which gives you a similar
experience, but you might like the layout better and it has some other
enhancements.

--
Sven
MVP Mobile Devices
"ship" <shiphen******.com> wrote in message
news:9ce3db52-132b-4f15-ad96-2fc663e0f9a1@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
> Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 (= HTC TyTN II)
> PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)
>
> Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
> (it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
> and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on my
> PC .
>
> I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.
>
> Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my PC
> so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At present,
> about half do and
> about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
> up a contact
> by last name or by first name!)
>
> Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
> contacts
> and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
> to
> reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
>

Yes, there is a way, but you need to edit each entry one at a time and
change the "File As" field - this field is available only on WM6. For
older versions (which TyTN II isn't) one must perform the edit on
Microsoft Outlook on the PC



"ship" <shiphen******.com> wrote in message
news:9ce3db52-132b-4f15-ad96-2fc663e0f9a1@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
> Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 (= HTC TyTN II)
> PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)
>
> Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
> (it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
> and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on my
> PC .
>
> I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.
>
> Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my PC
> so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At present,
> about half do and
> about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
> up a contact
> by last name or by first name!)
>
> Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
> contacts
> and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
> to
> reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
>

Hi Shiperton,

You might want to take a look at http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/raj/FileAs.html
to sort all your Contacts in Outlook based on First Name.

--
Regards,
Raj Pillai
Microsoft MVP - Mobile Devices
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/raj



"ship" <shiphen******.com> wrote in message
news:9ce3db52-132b-4f15-ad96-2fc663e0f9a1@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
> Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 (= HTC TyTN II)
> PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)
>
> Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
> (it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
> and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on my
> PC .
>
> I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.
>
> Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my PC
> so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At present,
> about half do and
> about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
> up a contact
> by last name or by first name!)
>
> Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
> contacts
> and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
> to
> reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
>

Brilliant - Thanks
If only Microsoft were as brilliant... [deep sigh]


Ship




On Apr 24, 6:35*pm, "Raj Pillai" <YouMeAndTheM...@Softhome.net> wrote:
> HiShiperton,
>
> You might want to take a look athttp://www.pocketpcfaq.com/raj/FileAs.html
> to sort all your Contacts in Outlook based on First Name.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Raj Pillai
> Microsoft MVP - Mobile Deviceshttp://www.pocketpcfaq.com/raj
>
> "ship" <ship...******.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9ce3db52-132b-4f15-ad96-2fc663e0f9a1@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
> > Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 *(= HTC TyTN II)
> > PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003
>
> > Hi
>
> > I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)
>
> > Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
> > (it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
> > and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on my
> > PC .
>
> > I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.
>
> > Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my PC
> > so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At present,
> > about half do and
> > about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
> > up a contact
> > by last name or by first name!)
>
> > Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
> > contacts
> > and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
> > to
> > reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?
>
> > Ship
> >ShipertonHenethe- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

They are as brilliant - you just did not look in the right place.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, ship asked:

| Brilliant - Thanks
| If only Microsoft were as brilliant... [deep sigh]
|
|
| Ship
|
|
|
|
| On Apr 24, 6:35 pm, "Raj Pillai" <YouMeAndTheM...@Softhome.net> wrote:
|| HiShiperton,
||
|| You might want to take a look
|| athttp://www.pocketpcfaq.com/raj/FileAs.html to sort all your
|| Contacts in Outlook based on First Name.
||
|| --
|| Regards,
|| Raj Pillai
|| Microsoft MVP - Mobile Deviceshttp://www.pocketpcfaq.com/raj
||
|| "ship" <ship...******.com> wrote in message
||
|| news:9ce3db52-132b-4f15-ad96-2fc663e0f9a1@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
||
||
||
||| O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
||| Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 (= HTC TyTN II)
||| PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003
||
||| Hi
||
||| I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)
||
||| Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
||| (it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
||| and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on
||| my PC .
||
||| I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.
||
||| Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my
||| PC so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At
||| present, about half do and
||| about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
||| up a contact
||| by last name or by first name!)
||
||| Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
||| contacts
||| and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
||| to
||| reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?
||
||| Ship
||| ShipertonHenethe- Hide quoted text -
||
|| - Show quoted text -

Just the opposite problem for me, I prefer the display to show Last Names
first but there's no option for me to change this. It has Name or Company
view and the name view only displays by First names in Windows Mobile Pro 6.
Never had this issue with the previous Windows Mobile versions.

"ship" wrote:

> O/S: Windows Mobile Pro 6
> Hardware: Vodaphone v1615 (= HTC TyTN II)
> PC: Windows XP Pro (SP2), Office 2003
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have just bought a new mobile phone (details above)
>
> Is there any way to get the contacts to show first name first?
> (it only has the options of "View by Name or view by Company"
> and "Name" turns out to mean the "Save as" field in Outlook2003 on my
> PC .
>
> I am stunned by how basic the Contacts manager on my phone is.
>
> Failing the above, is there any way to update all my conacts on my PC
> so that their "Save As" values start with First name? (At present,
> about half do and
> about half do not - this makes it impossible to know whether to look
> up a contact
> by last name or by first name!)
>
> Failing all the above - can anyone recommend any vastly superior
> contacts
> and calender software for a Windows Mobile Pro 6 device that is able
> to
> reliably synch with my Outlook on my PC?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
>
>