Is this group a good place to ask about the inbuilt SIP client on WM6?

I can get it to register on my PBX and make calls but it doesn't
maintain registration every couple of minutes like the SIP negotiation
requests. This means it times out and it can't make calls.

Does anyone have any experience of this? Any way of changing it
perhaps?


Regards
Steve

At 17 Oct 2007 14:44:11 +0000 Stevie G wrote:
> Is this group a good place to ask about the inbuilt SIP client on WM6?

As good as any, I suspect!


> I can get it to register on my PBX and make calls but it doesn't
> maintain registration every couple of minutes like the SIP negotiation
> requests. This means it times out and it can't make calls.
>
> Does anyone have any experience of this? Any way of changing it
> perhaps?


Not that I've found. The built-in SIP client is not very configurable,
and most settings seem to hard-coded- I've found no registry entries to
alter, and documentation for it is sparse.

Several of the SIP providers I've tried simply don't work with the built-
in client.


Hey, Werner! We need a WM6 VoIP Bible, stat! ;-)

On Oct 17, 5:11 pm, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 17 Oct 2007 14:44:11 +0000 Stevie G wrote:
>
> > Is this group a good place to ask about the inbuilt SIP client on WM6?
>
> As good as any, I suspect!
>
> > I can get it to register on my PBX and make calls but it doesn't
> > maintain registration every couple of minutes like the SIP negotiation
> > requests. This means it times out and it can't make calls.
>
> > Does anyone have any experience of this? Any way of changing it
> > perhaps?
>
> Not that I've found. The built-in SIP client is not very configurable,
> and most settings seem to hard-coded- I've found no registry entries to
> alter, and documentation for it is sparse.
>
> Several of the SIP providers I've tried simply don't work with the built-
> in client.
>
> Hey, Werner! We need a WM6 VoIP Bible, stat! ;-)

Todd, thanks so much for replying. I was starting to think I was the
only person out there that's used it. It integrates so well by
dialling via our office system as soon as the WiFi and SIP has
connected.

Do you know the reason you couldn't work with your SIP providers? Was
that possibly a Registration refresh issue or just an initial
registration incompatibility?

"Stevie G" <sg1009******.com> wrote

> Todd, thanks so much for replying. I was starting to think I was the
> only person out there that's used it.

No, I think there are six of us now! ;-)

> It integrates so well by
> dialling via our office system as soon as the WiFi and SIP has
> connected.

I use it for a different reason. SIP is my "backup" for when I'm stuck in a
hotel with free Wi-Fi and lousy cell service. I set my phone to forward my
cell calls "when unavailable" to my SIP DID and set the Internet Calling to
"when cellular is unavailable." My SIP provider also sends voicemail
recordings as e-mail attachments, so in addition to celluar backup, any
cellular calls I don't answer go to my SIP provider instead of my wireless
company, and are e-mailed to me instantly (via Direct Push) giving me the
"Visual Voicemail" the iPhone users think Apple invented.

> Do you know the reason you couldn't work with your SIP providers? Was
> that possibly a Registration refresh issue or just an initial
> registration incompatibility?

Registration incompatibility, which probably kept me from finding any
refresh issues! One provider I tried, Voicestick.com, had an odd refresh
time- 3600 seconds, which really wreaked havoc on many softphone apps I
tried and even some ATAs. It'd lose registration ever couple of hours
despite my fiddling with the settings. I doubt it'd have stayed registered
for long on WM6's client!

Gizmo project, a free SIP provider, stayed rock solid for me on WM6 all day
Tuesday, however, when a tower outage in my neighborhood left me stranded
without cell service. I was able to take calls via Gizmo all day. (It felt
like it was 1975 again, though, since the WiFi drains my battery so quickly
I left the phone plugged into it's AC charger all day and used it like a
wired phone! I'm not used to jumping up and running to the kitchen wall to
answer a ringing phone anymore!) ;-)

Sorry I don't have anything concrete for you to try WRT the built-in SIP
client. I really haven't found a standalone SIP app I've liked for WM5/6,
either. SJPhone worked well on my WM2003 Dell Axim, but is pretty flakey on
WM5/6. (If you are determined to try, use the PPC 2002 version instead of
the 2003 version- it was a lot more stable on my WM5 phone for reasons I
never understood!)

If your concern is receiving calls more than initiating them, you could try
Gizmoproject.com as a workaround, if your in-house system lets you forward
directly to a SIP URI- (i.e. "12345678@sipprovider.com" rather than a phone
number) so it won't even cost your company any LD fees.

Good luck!

hi guys, I want to use the SIP client with Cisco Call Manager Express, but
the PBX administrator decided to use SCCP instead of SIP.

Now, our CEO and I bought a hp IPAQ 510 with WM6, and our PBX admin are
trying to setup the PBX using a mis between SCCP phones and our SIP clients.

Which issues, consideratios, best practices or setup will he do?

thanks a lot

"Todd Allcock" wrote:

>
> "Stevie G" <sg1009******.com> wrote
>
> > Todd, thanks so much for replying. I was starting to think I was the
> > only person out there that's used it.
>
> No, I think there are six of us now! ;-)
>
> > It integrates so well by
> > dialling via our office system as soon as the WiFi and SIP has
> > connected.
>
> I use it for a different reason. SIP is my "backup" for when I'm stuck in a
> hotel with free Wi-Fi and lousy cell service. I set my phone to forward my
> cell calls "when unavailable" to my SIP DID and set the Internet Calling to
> "when cellular is unavailable." My SIP provider also sends voicemail
> recordings as e-mail attachments, so in addition to celluar backup, any
> cellular calls I don't answer go to my SIP provider instead of my wireless
> company, and are e-mailed to me instantly (via Direct Push) giving me the
> "Visual Voicemail" the iPhone users think Apple invented.
>
> > Do you know the reason you couldn't work with your SIP providers? Was
> > that possibly a Registration refresh issue or just an initial
> > registration incompatibility?
>
> Registration incompatibility, which probably kept me from finding any
> refresh issues! One provider I tried, Voicestick.com, had an odd refresh
> time- 3600 seconds, which really wreaked havoc on many softphone apps I
> tried and even some ATAs. It'd lose registration ever couple of hours
> despite my fiddling with the settings. I doubt it'd have stayed registered
> for long on WM6's client!
>
> Gizmo project, a free SIP provider, stayed rock solid for me on WM6 all day
> Tuesday, however, when a tower outage in my neighborhood left me stranded
> without cell service. I was able to take calls via Gizmo all day. (It felt
> like it was 1975 again, though, since the WiFi drains my battery so quickly
> I left the phone plugged into it's AC charger all day and used it like a
> wired phone! I'm not used to jumping up and running to the kitchen wall to
> answer a ringing phone anymore!) ;-)
>
> Sorry I don't have anything concrete for you to try WRT the built-in SIP
> client. I really haven't found a standalone SIP app I've liked for WM5/6,
> either. SJPhone worked well on my WM2003 Dell Axim, but is pretty flakey on
> WM5/6. (If you are determined to try, use the PPC 2002 version instead of
> the 2003 version- it was a lot more stable on my WM5 phone for reasons I
> never understood!)
>
> If your concern is receiving calls more than initiating them, you could try
> Gizmoproject.com as a workaround, if your in-house system lets you forward
> directly to a SIP URI- (i.e. "12345678@sipprovider.com" rather than a phone
> number) so it won't even cost your company any LD fees.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
>
>

On Oct 24, 7:17 am, Steven Munoz
<StevenMu...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> hi guys, I want to use the SIP client with Cisco Call Manager Express, but
> the PBX administrator decided to use SCCP instead of SIP.
>
> Now, our CEO and I bought a hp IPAQ 510 with WM6, and our PBX admin are
> trying to setup the PBX using a mis between SCCP phones and our SIP clients.
>
> Which issues, consideratios, best practices or setup will he do?
>
> thanks a lot
>
> "Todd Allcock" wrote:
>

I've used the HP 514 on an NEC Aspire using the standard SIP client
and it works okay. It's just the registration maintenance issues I'm
still looking into. Other WM6 devices connect up easily including the
HTC S790.

I can't comment on connection to a CCM via SCCP.