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Old 11-08-2009, 11:00 AM
Larry
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Annoying behavior of search function in XP

I've recently moved to XP from Windows 98 and when you execute a search in a
Windows folder (by being focused in the folder and pressing F3), the
results, instead of displaying in a separate search box (as in Windows 98),
are displayed in a new folder which replaces the folder you were searching
in. If you want to see the original folder, you need to do Alt+Left, which
means that you move away from the Search results folder.

Is there some way to get around this behavior, so that that the search
results display in their own separate box without interfering with the
folder in which you were searching?

Thanks,
Larry

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Old 11-08-2009, 11:30 AM
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP



-------- Original-Nachricht --------

> I've recently moved to XP from Windows 98 and when you execute a search in a
> Windows folder (by being focused in the folder and pressing F3), the
> results, instead of displaying in a separate search box (as in Windows 98),
> are displayed in a new folder which replaces the folder you were searching
> in. If you want to see the original folder, you need to do Alt+Left, which
> means that you move away from the Search results folder.
>
> Is there some way to get around this behavior, so that that the search
> results display in their own separate box without interfering with the
> folder in which you were searching?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
>


Don't use the search from the toolbar, use right clicking the folder to
be searched and then search from the context menu.

Bernd
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:50 PM
Larry
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP

> Don't use the search from the toolbar, use right clicking the folder to
> be searched and then search from the context menu.


Yes, that avoids having the search results folder replace the Windows
folder. But doing it this way requires that before doing the search, you
must exit the folder you want to search, then navigate to the folder icon,
and right click it and then choose Search, compared to just being in a
folder and pressing F3.

Larry

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Old 11-08-2009, 02:50 PM
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP


"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
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> I've recently moved to XP from Windows 98 and when you execute a search in
> a
> Windows folder (by being focused in the folder and pressing F3), the
> results, instead of displaying in a separate search box (as in Windows
> 98),
> are displayed in a new folder which replaces the folder you were searching
> in. If you want to see the original folder, you need to do Alt+Left, which
> means that you move away from the Search results folder.
>
> Is there some way to get around this behavior, so that that the search
> results display in their own separate box without interfering with the
> folder in which you were searching?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry


it's worth pointing out that you can get *much* better search results by
installing Agent Ransack.
http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/

HTH
-pk

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Old 11-08-2009, 04:00 PM
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP



"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
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>
> "Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
> news:um6YZRKYKHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I've recently moved to XP from Windows 98 and when you execute a search
>> in a
>> Windows folder (by being focused in the folder and pressing F3), the
>> results, instead of displaying in a separate search box (as in Windows
>> 98),
>> are displayed in a new folder which replaces the folder you were
>> searching
>> in. If you want to see the original folder, you need to do Alt+Left,
>> which
>> means that you move away from the Search results folder.
>>
>> Is there some way to get around this behavior, so that that the search
>> results display in their own separate box without interfering with the
>> folder in which you were searching?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Larry

>
> it's worth pointing out that you can get *much* better search results by
> installing Agent Ransack.
> http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/
>
> HTH
> -pk
>

I totally agree. I find it works much better than the default search engines
in XP, Vista, and Win7.

SC Tom


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Old 11-08-2009, 05:10 PM
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP



-------- Original-Nachricht --------

>> Don't use the search from the toolbar, use right clicking the folder to
>> be searched and then search from the context menu.

>
> Yes, that avoids having the search results folder replace the Windows
> folder. But doing it this way requires that before doing the search, you
> must exit the folder you want to search, then navigate to the folder icon,
> and right click it and then choose Search, compared to just being in a
> folder and pressing F3.
>
> Larry
>


That's not the whole truth ;-)

If you are positioned in Folder A you can navigate through the lefthand
folder tree by using scrolling and/or the +-signs. Then you can
rightclick the folder you want to search. This does NOT change the
position in folder A ! You only have to avoid leftclicking on any folder
in the tree.

Bernd
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:30 PM
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP

> > it's worth pointing out that you can get *much* better search results by
> > installing Agent Ransack.
> > http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/
> >
> > HTH
> > -pk
> >

> I totally agree. I find it works much better than the default search

engines
> in XP, Vista, and Win7.



Thanks, I guess that's the solution, to get a non-MS search engine that will
work in Windows.

I find the Windows XP search engine, even if you return it to its "classic"
form or whatever, to be over-complicated and a hassle to use. So I will
check out this Agent Ransack.

It was issues like this that made me hold on to Windows 98 for so long.

Larry


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Old 11-08-2009, 09:40 PM
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP

Larry wrote:
>>> it's worth pointing out that you can get *much* better search results by
>>> installing Agent Ransack.
>>> http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> -pk
>>>

>> I totally agree. I find it works much better than the default search
>> engines
>> in XP, Vista, and Win7.

>
>
> Thanks, I guess that's the solution, to get a non-MS search engine that
> will
> work in Windows.
>
> I find the Windows XP search engine, even if you return it to its
> "classic"
> form or whatever, to be over-complicated and a hassle to use. So I will
> check out this Agent Ransack.
>
> It was issues like this that made me hold on to Windows 98 for so long.
>
> Larry


And/or check out it's big brother, FileLocator Pro (not free, though), which
has much more customability.

I stopped using Windows Search ages ago - it's almost worthless (and not
even as good as the one in Win98). And the fact that it skips certain
types of files means its essentially worthless.


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Old 11-09-2009, 07:20 AM
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP

Per Bill in Co.:
>
>I stopped using Windows Search ages ago - it's almost worthless (and not
>even as good as the one in Win98). And the fact that it skips certain
>types of files means its essentially worthless.


This has been an informative thread for me. Been bugged by XP's
"Search" since day 1 when I had to figure out how to get rid of
the Furshlugginer dog..... and it still bugs me to have to step
through the "what kind of search" checkboxes and that the
"Browse" option is buried at the end of the list....
--
PeteCresswell
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:30 AM
Larry
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Re: Annoying behavior of search function in XP

The problem with Agent Ransack is that it doesn't have a way of initiating a
search from inside the active folder window. You have to go up one level and
right-click the folder icon. There needs to be a way to initiate a search in
any given folder as easily as it is done with Windows' search tool: you just
press F3, and the search tool opens, focused on the present folder.

I wrote an e-mail to Agent Ransack about it, but the e-mail bounced back:

<comments@agentransack.com>
Permanent Failure: 550_#5.1.0_Address_rejected_comments@agentransack. com
Delivery last attempted at Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:33:17 -0000

Also, it stuns me that MS had the dog cartoon as the default display for
Find in Windows. But worse is turning a direct, simple Find process, where
you simply type in the item you're looking for and click execute, into a
whole complicated to-do. Also, what XP means by returning to "classic" find
is simply getting rid of the dog, not returning to Find à la Windows 98.




"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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> Per Bill in Co.:
> >
> >I stopped using Windows Search ages ago - it's almost worthless (and not
> >even as good as the one in Win98). And the fact that it skips certain
> >types of files means its essentially worthless.

>
> This has been an informative thread for me. Been bugged by XP's
> "Search" since day 1 when I had to figure out how to get rid of
> the Furshlugginer dog..... and it still bugs me to have to step
> through the "what kind of search" checkboxes and that the
> "Browse" option is buried at the end of the list....
> --
> PeteCresswell


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