Where are the Windows 7 Newsgroups

I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
MVPs hanging out?

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"Walter R." <wr@example.com> wrote in message
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>I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
>MVPs hanging out?
>
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> Walter
> www.rationality.net
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No Win7 group on msnews. Very likely won't be. MS seems to prefer Web based
forums these days. Same old, same old. What they want, not what users want.

Microsoft TechNet Windows 7 Forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...egory/windows7
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

There seems to be a shift away from newsgroups towards web forums. I noticed
a diminishing participation in other popular newsgroups, like
alt.home.repair. I will miss the groups, but time and progress moves on.

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"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Walter R." <wr@example.com> wrote in message
> news:O$8cIL2XKHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
>>MVPs hanging out?
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>
>
> No Win7 group on msnews. Very likely won't be. MS seems to prefer Web
> based forums these days. Same old, same old. What they want, not what
> users want.
>
> Microsoft TechNet Windows 7 Forums:
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...egory/windows7
> --
>
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>

Pick one or two:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...+%2B+newsgroup

Walter R. wrote:
> I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
> MVPs hanging out?

"Walter R." <wr@example.com> wrote in message
news:O$8cIL2XKHA.872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
>MVPs hanging out?
>
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net


alt.windows7.general

>>I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
>>MVPs hanging out?
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>
>
> No Win7 group on msnews. Very likely won't be. MS seems to prefer Web
> based forums these days. Same old, same old. What they want, not what
> users want.
>
> Microsoft TechNet Windows 7 Forums:
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...egory/windows7
> --
>
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
..
FWIW I find web based forums preferable because they are moderated. As a
result they are not filled with all the spam you see in NGs. That's an
improvement IMHO.

"Victek" <Victek@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
>>>MVPs hanging out?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Walter
>>> www.rationality.net
>>> -
>>
>>
>> No Win7 group on msnews. Very likely won't be. MS seems to prefer Web
>> based forums these days. Same old, same old. What they want, not what
>> users want.
>>
>> Microsoft TechNet Windows 7 Forums:
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...egory/windows7
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
> .
> FWIW I find web based forums preferable because they are moderated. As a
> result they are not filled with all the spam you see in NGs. That's an
> improvement IMHO.


No argument on the spam point. Now if something could be done about it in
these newsgroups, that would be the best of both worlds, IMO.

I like the ability to remove old posts and just keep the current and active
ones. I never keep posts more than 10 days unless they are still obviously
active. Being able to trim is a real plus, at least from my point of view
primarily as a responder and not an OP. Neat and trim.

P.S. If you really want to see some morons, go to the windows.vista.general
group.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:28:45 -0800, "Walter R." <wr@example.com> wrote:

> I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they?


There is alt.windows7.general (but not all news servers carry it yet),
but no Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroups.

Microsoft seems to prefer web-based forums, and in all probability,
they will unfortunately not create any newsgroups.


> Where are the
> MVPs hanging out?
>
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
> -
>

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:36:17 -0800, "Bruce Hagen"
<Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote:

> "Victek" <Victek@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hd437s$gi4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
> >>>MVPs hanging out?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Walter
> >>> www.rationality.net
> >>> -
> >>
> >>
> >> No Win7 group on msnews. Very likely won't be. MS seems to prefer Web
> >> based forums these days. Same old, same old. What they want, not what
> >> users want.
> >>
> >> Microsoft TechNet Windows 7 Forums:
> >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...egory/windows7
> >> --
> >>
> >> Bruce Hagen
> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
> >> Imperial Beach, CA
> >>
> > .
> > FWIW I find web based forums preferable because they are moderated. As a
> > result they are not filled with all the spam you see in NGs. That's an
> > improvement IMHO.
>
>
> No argument on the spam point. Now if something could be done about it in
> these newsgroups, that would be the best of both worlds, IMO.
>
> I like the ability to remove old posts and just keep the current and active
> ones. I never keep posts more than 10 days unless they are still obviously
> active. Being able to trim is a real plus, at least from my point of view
> primarily as a responder and not an OP. Neat and trim.


I'm even more extreme than you are. The only newsgroup posts I keep
are those I haven't read yet. Once they're read, they're gone. That
makes far fewer posts to have to wade through.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Walter R. wrote:
> I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
> MVPs hanging out?
>
alt.windows7.general. I have yet to see any MVP's to confuse everyone .

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:m5abf5hhr8i828rbvdce08ghmlf543ubud@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:28:45 -0800, "Walter R." <wr@example.com> wrote:
>
>> I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they?
>
>
> There is alt.windows7.general (but not all news servers carry it yet),
> but no Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroups.
>
> Microsoft seems to prefer web-based forums, and in all probability,
> they will unfortunately not create any newsgroups.
>
>
>> Where are the
>> MVPs hanging out?
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Also, Win 7 doesn't have a built-in newsreader, so new users,
unaware of usenet will just use the web forums. It takes some
know-how to find and configure a reader for NNTP vs clicking
on a web forum link.

Victek wrote:
> .
> FWIW I find web based forums preferable because they are moderated. As
> a result they are not filled with all the spam you see in NGs. That's
> an improvement IMHO.

Not really an improvement, killfiles can filter out the trolls, but from
what I've seen in those forums. We have tons of people asking the same
questions over and over, putting their posts in the subject and making
the actual body of the message 3 or 4 words. The responses? They tend to
be very much cut and paste form letters with a bunch of links and
sometimes its not even sure if the people responding even read the
problems or not.

I don't see the forums as an improvement at all. But, there is nothing
we can do to change that. However, some usenet servers carry a Windows 7
newsgroup that seems helpful. alt.windows7.general

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:58:06 -0500, "Ian D" <taurus@nowhereatall.com>
wrote:

>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:m5abf5hhr8i828rbvdce08ghmlf543ubud@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 20:28:45 -0800, "Walter R." <wr@example.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they?
> >
> >
> > There is alt.windows7.general (but not all news servers carry it yet),
> > but no Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroups.
> >
> > Microsoft seems to prefer web-based forums, and in all probability,
> > they will unfortunately not create any newsgroups.
> >
> >
> >> Where are the
> >> MVPs hanging out?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Walter
> >> www.rationality.net
> >> -
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
> Also, Win 7 doesn't have a built-in newsreader, so new users,
> unaware of usenet will just use the web forums.


True, but even if Windows 7 *did* have a built-in newsreader, many new
users, "unaware of usenet will just use the web forums."

Microsoft could readily tell users, even new users, about usenet, and
tell them how to use usenet. With just a little bit of help, almost
nobody would find this hard at all.


> It takes some
> know-how to find and configure a reader for NNTP vs clicking
> on a web forum link.



True, but the amount of know-how required is extremely small. And
there are web sites that tell you exactly how to do it.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

"Mr doe" <Mrdoe@blowfish.net> wrote in message
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> Walter R. wrote:
>> I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
>> MVPs hanging out?
>>
> alt.windows7.general. I have yet to see any MVP's to confuse everyone

I joined last week. So far, the quality of the postings
seems ok, and genuine Q and A is taking place.

How do I add the alt.windows7.general to my newsgroups? I'm using Outlook
Express.



"Walter R." <wr@example.com> wrote in message
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I cannot find any Windows 7 Usenet groups. Where are they? Where are the
MVPs hanging out?

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Walter
www.rationality.net
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