I am using HTC Touch Pro 2 (on Vodafone UK) running Windows Mobile 6.1.
In settings, connections, communication manager I set data connection to
OFF. But if I use Google maps 3G is automatically set back to ON, which I
don't want. When abroad, in order to avoid roaming charges, I'd like to be
able to download the piece of Google maps I need, using WiFi, and then use it
on the field without 3G being automatically set up to ON.

--
ah

"ah" <ah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:12AB00BB-3781-4393-A635-46F3DAA52309@microsoft.com...
>I am using HTC Touch Pro 2 (on Vodafone UK) running Windows Mobile 6.1.
> In settings, connections, communication manager I set data connection to
> OFF. But if I use Google maps 3G is automatically set back to ON, which I
> don't want. When abroad, in order to avoid roaming charges, I'd like to
> be
> able to download the piece of Google maps I need, using WiFi, and then use
> it
> on the field without 3G being automatically set up to ON.

You've actually got two issues here- first, you shouldn't rely on the Comm
Manager to shut off data when abroad. It isn't a "hard" toggle that shuts
down data until you turn it back on, it simply terminates the current data
session. ANY data using program: Google Maps, email, web browsers, etc. can
and will turn it back on when they next need it.

If your device has no "turn off data when roaming" function, the safest
thing to do when abroad is to switch your chosen "networks" in
Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select Networks to
one without any celular data connections. As added insurance, I "munge" my
cellular data settings- intentionally misspell the cellular APN so even if
the odd program overrides all device data settings, it will get an error
instead of connect.

Having said all that, now I'll REALLY disappoint you!

Unless Google Maps has changed radically in the last several months since
I've used it, it requires a constant data connection. Trying to force it to
run without one (used to at least) generate an error message saying the data
connection was lost and asking you if it you wanted to retry. This nag
message would pop up often enough to make the program unusable. Instead,
you might try Microsoft's Bing for Mobile. It's similar to Google Maps, but
it caches map data for use if your connection is lost. I used it last
winter on a trip to Mexico without cellular data by connecting to hotel
WiFi, opening my location, and scrolling around the screen in all directions
at a few different zoom levels to load as much map data into the cache as
possible, and was able to use the program without a data connection. (Of
course functionality without connectivity was severely limited- you can't
get directions or search for nearby businesses, etc.- it just functioned as
a "moving map" with my location shown on it. Since I really just wanted it
to find my way back to the hotel if lost, it was good enough.)

I went Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select
Networks and I created a dummy connection called no connection. Data
connection is now set on OFF. I go to Google maps and it still downloads.
I go back to Select networks and the network is still set on no connection
but in the comm manager, data connection has been automatically set back to
ON. I am sorry for being such a beginner.

I explored m.bing.com and downloaded a map but the map is not bigger than a
postal stamp and can't be used for directions, as Google maps. I must have
done something wrong again.

--
ah

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:emEIJtYUKHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "ah" <ah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:12AB00BB-3781-4393-A635-46F3DAA52309@microsoft.com...
>>I am using HTC Touch Pro 2 (on Vodafone UK) running Windows Mobile 6.1.
>> In settings, connections, communication manager I set data connection to
>> OFF. But if I use Google maps 3G is automatically set back to ON, which
>> I
>> don't want. When abroad, in order to avoid roaming charges, I'd like to
>> be
>> able to download the piece of Google maps I need, using WiFi, and then
>> use it
>> on the field without 3G being automatically set up to ON.
>
> You've actually got two issues here- first, you shouldn't rely on the Comm
> Manager to shut off data when abroad. It isn't a "hard" toggle that shuts
> down data until you turn it back on, it simply terminates the current data
> session. ANY data using program: Google Maps, email, web browsers, etc.
> can and will turn it back on when they next need it.
>
> If your device has no "turn off data when roaming" function, the safest
> thing to do when abroad is to switch your chosen "networks" in
> Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select Networks
> to one without any celular data connections. As added insurance, I
> "munge" my cellular data settings- intentionally misspell the cellular APN
> so even if the odd program overrides all device data settings, it will get
> an error instead of connect.
>
> Having said all that, now I'll REALLY disappoint you!
>
> Unless Google Maps has changed radically in the last several months since
> I've used it, it requires a constant data connection. Trying to force it
> to run without one (used to at least) generate an error message saying the
> data connection was lost and asking you if it you wanted to retry. This
> nag message would pop up often enough to make the program unusable.
> Instead, you might try Microsoft's Bing for Mobile. It's similar to
> Google Maps, but it caches map data for use if your connection is lost. I
> used it last winter on a trip to Mexico without cellular data by
> connecting to hotel WiFi, opening my location, and scrolling around the
> screen in all directions at a few different zoom levels to load as much
> map data into the cache as possible, and was able to use the program
> without a data connection. (Of course functionality without connectivity
> was severely limited- you can't get directions or search for nearby
> businesses, etc.- it just functioned as a "moving map" with my location
> shown on it. Since I really just wanted it to find my way back to the
> hotel if lost, it was good enough.)
>
>
>

After you created the dummy "No Connection" connection, did you set both
bars ("Programs that connect to the Internet..." and "Programs that connect
to a Private Network...") on the Select network screen to "No Connection"?

If so, it should be impossible for Google Maps to connect, (unless you have
WiFi on- WiFi will still work if no dialup connections are defined.)

As to Bing, you need to download the software, not just access the
m.bing.com website.

From your device, go to http://m.bing.com/download

Bing only supports a few countries for points-of-interest location data and
directions, but you should be able to view maps from any country. You
wouldn't be able to generate directions with Google Maps without an internet
connection anyway, so you wouldn't be losing any functionality anyway- with
Bing, you'll be limited to viewing your position on a cached map without
connectivity. With Google Maps, you'll have nothing. If you need
directions and POI data, you'll have to have a live data connection, or
invest in a GPS program like TomTom for your desired destination.



"ah" <anonewsgr********.com> wrote in message
news:%23SIneDaUKHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I went Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select
>Networks and I created a dummy connection called no connection. Data
>connection is now set on OFF. I go to Google maps and it still downloads.
>I go back to Select networks and the network is still set on no connection
>but in the comm manager, data connection has been automatically set back to
>ON. I am sorry for being such a beginner.
>
> I explored m.bing.com and downloaded a map but the map is not bigger than
> a postal stamp and can't be used for directions, as Google maps. I must
> have done something wrong again.
>
> --
> ah
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> news:emEIJtYUKHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "ah" <ah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:12AB00BB-3781-4393-A635-46F3DAA52309@microsoft.com...
>>>I am using HTC Touch Pro 2 (on Vodafone UK) running Windows Mobile 6.1.
>>> In settings, connections, communication manager I set data connection to
>>> OFF. But if I use Google maps 3G is automatically set back to ON, which
>>> I
>>> don't want. When abroad, in order to avoid roaming charges, I'd like to
>>> be
>>> able to download the piece of Google maps I need, using WiFi, and then
>>> use it
>>> on the field without 3G being automatically set up to ON.
>>
>> You've actually got two issues here- first, you shouldn't rely on the
>> Comm Manager to shut off data when abroad. It isn't a "hard" toggle that
>> shuts down data until you turn it back on, it simply terminates the
>> current data session. ANY data using program: Google Maps, email, web
>> browsers, etc. can and will turn it back on when they next need it.
>>
>> If your device has no "turn off data when roaming" function, the safest
>> thing to do when abroad is to switch your chosen "networks" in
>> Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select Networks
>> to one without any celular data connections. As added insurance, I
>> "munge" my cellular data settings- intentionally misspell the cellular
>> APN so even if the odd program overrides all device data settings, it
>> will get an error instead of connect.
>>
>> Having said all that, now I'll REALLY disappoint you!
>>
>> Unless Google Maps has changed radically in the last several months since
>> I've used it, it requires a constant data connection. Trying to force it
>> to run without one (used to at least) generate an error message saying
>> the data connection was lost and asking you if it you wanted to retry.
>> This nag message would pop up often enough to make the program unusable.
>> Instead, you might try Microsoft's Bing for Mobile. It's similar to
>> Google Maps, but it caches map data for use if your connection is lost.
>> I used it last winter on a trip to Mexico without cellular data by
>> connecting to hotel WiFi, opening my location, and scrolling around the
>> screen in all directions at a few different zoom levels to load as much
>> map data into the cache as possible, and was able to use the program
>> without a data connection. (Of course functionality without connectivity
>> was severely limited- you can't get directions or search for nearby
>> businesses, etc.- it just functioned as a "moving map" with my location
>> shown on it. Since I really just wanted it to find my way back to the
>> hotel if lost, it was good enough.)
>>
>>
>>
>

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> I used it last winter on a trip to Mexico without cellular data
> by connecting to hotel WiFi, opening my location, and scrolling
> around the screen in all directions at a few different zoom
> levels to load as much map data into the cache as possible, and
> was able to use the program without a data connection. (Of
> course functionality without connectivity was severely limited-
> you can't get directions or search for nearby businesses, etc.-
> it just functioned as a "moving map" with my location shown on
> it. Since I really just wanted it to find my way back to the
> hotel if lost, it was good enough.)

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!

Thank you for replying.
>> After you created the dummy "No Connection" connection, did you set both
bars ("Programs that connect to the Internet..." and "Programs that connect
to a Private Network...") on the Select network screen to "No Connection"? <<
I had set only Programs that connect to the Internet but after I read your
post I set both but PPC still connects. Then I went in the Proxi settings
and de-ticked: this network connects to the Internet for "No Connection".
but it still connected. Then I created a dummy proxy server called nocon and
in advanced I saw that HTTP was set to nocon:80 and Socks was set to
nocon:1080. I set both to nocon:0 and tested but both settings had returned
to their original setting: (80 and 1080) and my PPC HTC Touch Pro 2 still
connects whatever I do.

I went to http://m.bing.com/download but got the message: we were unable to
detect your phone or we do not offer support in your region.

--
ah

"Todd Allcock" wrote:

> After you created the dummy "No Connection" connection, did you set both
> bars ("Programs that connect to the Internet..." and "Programs that connect
> to a Private Network...") on the Select network screen to "No Connection"?
>
> If so, it should be impossible for Google Maps to connect, (unless you have
> WiFi on- WiFi will still work if no dialup connections are defined.)
>
> As to Bing, you need to download the software, not just access the
> m.bing.com website.
>
> From your device, go to http://m.bing.com/download
>
> Bing only supports a few countries for points-of-interest location data and
> directions, but you should be able to view maps from any country. You
> wouldn't be able to generate directions with Google Maps without an internet
> connection anyway, so you wouldn't be losing any functionality anyway- with
> Bing, you'll be limited to viewing your position on a cached map without
> connectivity. With Google Maps, you'll have nothing. If you need
> directions and POI data, you'll have to have a live data connection, or
> invest in a GPS program like TomTom for your desired destination.
>
>
>
> "ah" <anonewsgr********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23SIneDaUKHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >I went Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select
> >Networks and I created a dummy connection called no connection. Data
> >connection is now set on OFF. I go to Google maps and it still downloads.
> >I go back to Select networks and the network is still set on no connection
> >but in the comm manager, data connection has been automatically set back to
> >ON. I am sorry for being such a beginner.
> >
> > I explored m.bing.com and downloaded a map but the map is not bigger than
> > a postal stamp and can't be used for directions, as Google maps. I must
> > have done something wrong again.
> >
> > --
> > ah
> >
> > "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> > news:emEIJtYUKHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "ah" <ah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:12AB00BB-3781-4393-A635-46F3DAA52309@microsoft.com...
> >>>I am using HTC Touch Pro 2 (on Vodafone UK) running Windows Mobile 6.1.
> >>> In settings, connections, communication manager I set data connection to
> >>> OFF. But if I use Google maps 3G is automatically set back to ON, which
> >>> I
> >>> don't want. When abroad, in order to avoid roaming charges, I'd like to
> >>> be
> >>> able to download the piece of Google maps I need, using WiFi, and then
> >>> use it
> >>> on the field without 3G being automatically set up to ON.
> >>
> >> You've actually got two issues here- first, you shouldn't rely on the
> >> Comm Manager to shut off data when abroad. It isn't a "hard" toggle that
> >> shuts down data until you turn it back on, it simply terminates the
> >> current data session. ANY data using program: Google Maps, email, web
> >> browsers, etc. can and will turn it back on when they next need it.
> >>
> >> If your device has no "turn off data when roaming" function, the safest
> >> thing to do when abroad is to switch your chosen "networks" in
> >> Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select Networks
> >> to one without any celular data connections. As added insurance, I
> >> "munge" my cellular data settings- intentionally misspell the cellular
> >> APN so even if the odd program overrides all device data settings, it
> >> will get an error instead of connect.
> >>
> >> Having said all that, now I'll REALLY disappoint you!
> >>
> >> Unless Google Maps has changed radically in the last several months since
> >> I've used it, it requires a constant data connection. Trying to force it
> >> to run without one (used to at least) generate an error message saying
> >> the data connection was lost and asking you if it you wanted to retry.
> >> This nag message would pop up often enough to make the program unusable.
> >> Instead, you might try Microsoft's Bing for Mobile. It's similar to
> >> Google Maps, but it caches map data for use if your connection is lost.
> >> I used it last winter on a trip to Mexico without cellular data by
> >> connecting to hotel WiFi, opening my location, and scrolling around the
> >> screen in all directions at a few different zoom levels to load as much
> >> map data into the cache as possible, and was able to use the program
> >> without a data connection. (Of course functionality without connectivity
> >> was severely limited- you can't get directions or search for nearby
> >> businesses, etc.- it just functioned as a "moving map" with my location
> >> shown on it. Since I really just wanted it to find my way back to the
> >> hotel if lost, it was good enough.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> .
>

Wow! My guess is that Google Maps must be trying all connections defined
on the device. (I hate it when programs go outside the global OS
settings without asking your permission!)


After Bing gave you the "cannot detect" error, wasn't there a "Try Bing
Anyway?" link at the end? If so, click it and you'll get a list of
versions. If not, they must be blocking your region by IP. (Bing only
supports the US, UK, France and Italy currently, but you can view road
maps of virtually anywhere.)


At 21 Oct 2009 00:11:01 -0700 ah wrote:
> Thank you for replying.
> >> After you created the dummy "No Connection" connection, did you set
both
> bars ("Programs that connect to the Internet..." and "Programs that
connect
> to a Private Network...") on the Select network screen to "No
Connection"? <<
> I had set only Programs that connect to the Internet but after I read
your
> post I set both but PPC still connects. Then I went in the Proxi
settings
> and de-ticked: this network connects to the Internet for "No Connection".

> but it still connected. Then I created a dummy proxy server called
nocon and
> in advanced I saw that HTTP was set to nocon:80 and Socks was set to
> nocon:1080. I set both to nocon:0 and tested but both settings had
returned
> to their original setting: (80 and 1080) and my PPC HTC Touch Pro 2
still
> connects whatever I do.
>
> I went to http://m.bing.com/download but got the message: we were
unable to
> detect your phone or we do not offer support in your region.
>
> --
> ah
>
> "Todd Allcock" wrote:
>
> > After you created the dummy "No Connection" connection, did you set
both
> > bars ("Programs that connect to the Internet..." and "Programs that
connect
> > to a Private Network...") on the Select network screen to "No
Connection"?
> >
> > If so, it should be impossible for Google Maps to connect, (unless
you have
> > WiFi on- WiFi will still work if no dialup connections are defined.)
> >
> > As to Bing, you need to download the software, not just access the
> > m.bing.com website.
> >
> > From your device, go to http://m.bing.com/download
> >
> > Bing only supports a few countries for points-of-interest location
data and
> > directions, but you should be able to view maps from any country.
You
> > wouldn't be able to generate directions with Google Maps without an
internet
> > connection anyway, so you wouldn't be losing any functionality anyway-
with
> > Bing, you'll be limited to viewing your position on a cached map
without
> > connectivity. With Google Maps, you'll have nothing. If you need
> > directions and POI data, you'll have to have a live data connection,
or
> > invest in a GPS program like TomTom for your desired destination.
> >
> >
> >
> > "ah" <anonewsgr********.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23SIneDaUKHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >I went Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)
/Select
> > >Networks and I created a dummy connection called no connection.
Data
> > >connection is now set on OFF. I go to Google maps and it still
downloads.
> > >I go back to Select networks and the network is still set on no
connection
> > >but in the comm manager, data connection has been automatically set
back to
> > >ON. I am sorry for being such a beginner.
> > >
> > > I explored m.bing.com and downloaded a map but the map is not
bigger than
> > > a postal stamp and can't be used for directions, as Google maps. I
must
> > > have done something wrong again.
> > >
> > > --
> > > ah
> > >
> > > "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> > > news:emEIJtYUKHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >>
> > >> "ah" <ah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:12AB00BB-3781-4393-A635-46F3DAA52309@microsoft.com...
> > >>>I am using HTC Touch Pro 2 (on Vodafone UK) running Windows Mobile
6.1.
> > >>> In settings, connections, communication manager I set data
connection to
> > >>> OFF. But if I use Google maps 3G is automatically set back to
ON, which
> > >>> I
> > >>> don't want. When abroad, in order to avoid roaming charges, I'd
like to
> > >>> be
> > >>> able to download the piece of Google maps I need, using WiFi, and
then
> > >>> use it
> > >>> on the field without 3G being automatically set up to ON.
> > >>
> > >> You've actually got two issues here- first, you shouldn't rely on
the
> > >> Comm Manager to shut off data when abroad. It isn't a "hard"
toggle that
> > >> shuts down data until you turn it back on, it simply terminates
the
> > >> current data session. ANY data using program: Google Maps, email,
web
> > >> browsers, etc. can and will turn it back on when they next need it.
> > >>
> > >> If your device has no "turn off data when roaming" function, the
safest
> > >> thing to do when abroad is to switch your chosen "networks" in
> > >> Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select
Networks
> > >> to one without any celular data connections. As added insurance,
I
> > >> "munge" my cellular data settings- intentionally misspell the
cellular
> > >> APN so even if the odd program overrides all device data settings,
it
> > >> will get an error instead of connect.
> > >>
> > >> Having said all that, now I'll REALLY disappoint you!
> > >>
> > >> Unless Google Maps has changed radically in the last several
months since
> > >> I've used it, it requires a constant data connection. Trying to
force it
> > >> to run without one (used to at least) generate an error message
saying
> > >> the data connection was lost and asking you if it you wanted to
retry.
> > >> This nag message would pop up often enough to make the program
unusable.
> > >> Instead, you might try Microsoft's Bing for Mobile. It's similar
to
> > >> Google Maps, but it caches map data for use if your connection is
lost.
> > >> I used it last winter on a trip to Mexico without cellular data by
> > >> connecting to hotel WiFi, opening my location, and scrolling
around the
> > >> screen in all directions at a few different zoom levels to load as
much
> > >> map data into the cache as possible, and was able to use the
program
> > >> without a data connection. (Of course functionality without
connectivity
> > >> was severely limited- you can't get directions or search for
nearby
> > >> businesses, etc.- it just functioned as a "moving map" with my
location
> > >> shown on it. Since I really just wanted it to find my way back to
the
> > >> hotel if lost, it was good enough.)

Yes, I had the link but didn't download anything (yet). I saw that the UK
was supported and I am in London so I was surprised by the message.

I have another problem: some emails disappear from my inbox before being
read and I find them in my Outlook inbox when I use my laptop. I am going to
try a few things (such as not downloading automatically but try manually) and
anyway I'll post separately if I can't solve this because it can be annoying
to lose emails when travelling without my laptop.

Thank you for your help.

--
ah

"Todd Allcock" wrote:

> Wow! My guess is that Google Maps must be trying all connections defined
> on the device. (I hate it when programs go outside the global OS
> settings without asking your permission!)
>
>
> After Bing gave you the "cannot detect" error, wasn't there a "Try Bing
> Anyway?" link at the end? If so, click it and you'll get a list of
> versions. If not, they must be blocking your region by IP. (Bing only
> supports the US, UK, France and Italy currently, but you can view road
> maps of virtually anywhere.)
>
>
> At 21 Oct 2009 00:11:01 -0700 ah wrote:
> > Thank you for replying.
> > >> After you created the dummy "No Connection" connection, did you set
> both
> > bars ("Programs that connect to the Internet..." and "Programs that
> connect
> > to a Private Network...") on the Select network screen to "No
> Connection"? <<
> > I had set only Programs that connect to the Internet but after I read
> your
> > post I set both but PPC still connects. Then I went in the Proxi
> settings
> > and de-ticked: this network connects to the Internet for "No Connection".
>
> > but it still connected. Then I created a dummy proxy server called
> nocon and
> > in advanced I saw that HTTP was set to nocon:80 and Socks was set to
> > nocon:1080. I set both to nocon:0 and tested but both settings had
> returned
> > to their original setting: (80 and 1080) and my PPC HTC Touch Pro 2
> still
> > connects whatever I do.
> >
> > I went to http://m.bing.com/download but got the message: we were
> unable to
> > detect your phone or we do not offer support in your region.
> >
> > --
> > ah
> >
> > "Todd Allcock" wrote:
> >
> > > After you created the dummy "No Connection" connection, did you set
> both
> > > bars ("Programs that connect to the Internet..." and "Programs that
> connect
> > > to a Private Network...") on the Select network screen to "No
> Connection"?
> > >
> > > If so, it should be impossible for Google Maps to connect, (unless
> you have
> > > WiFi on- WiFi will still work if no dialup connections are defined.)
> > >
> > > As to Bing, you need to download the software, not just access the
> > > m.bing.com website.
> > >
> > > From your device, go to http://m.bing.com/download
> > >
> > > Bing only supports a few countries for points-of-interest location
> data and
> > > directions, but you should be able to view maps from any country.
> You
> > > wouldn't be able to generate directions with Google Maps without an
> internet
> > > connection anyway, so you wouldn't be losing any functionality anyway-
> with
> > > Bing, you'll be limited to viewing your position on a cached map
> without
> > > connectivity. With Google Maps, you'll have nothing. If you need
> > > directions and POI data, you'll have to have a live data connection,
> or
> > > invest in a GPS program like TomTom for your desired destination.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "ah" <anonewsgr********.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23SIneDaUKHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > >I went Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)
> /Select
> > > >Networks and I created a dummy connection called no connection.
> Data
> > > >connection is now set on OFF. I go to Google maps and it still
> downloads.
> > > >I go back to Select networks and the network is still set on no
> connection
> > > >but in the comm manager, data connection has been automatically set
> back to
> > > >ON. I am sorry for being such a beginner.
> > > >
> > > > I explored m.bing.com and downloaded a map but the map is not
> bigger than
> > > > a postal stamp and can't be used for directions, as Google maps. I
> must
> > > > have done something wrong again.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ah
> > > >
> > > > "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:emEIJtYUKHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > > >>
> > > >> "ah" <ah@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:12AB00BB-3781-4393-A635-46F3DAA52309@microsoft.com...
> > > >>>I am using HTC Touch Pro 2 (on Vodafone UK) running Windows Mobile
> 6.1.
> > > >>> In settings, connections, communication manager I set data
> connection to
> > > >>> OFF. But if I use Google maps 3G is automatically set back to
> ON, which
> > > >>> I
> > > >>> don't want. When abroad, in order to avoid roaming charges, I'd
> like to
> > > >>> be
> > > >>> able to download the piece of Google maps I need, using WiFi, and
> then
> > > >>> use it
> > > >>> on the field without 3G being automatically set up to ON.
> > > >>
> > > >> You've actually got two issues here- first, you shouldn't rely on
> the
> > > >> Comm Manager to shut off data when abroad. It isn't a "hard"
> toggle that
> > > >> shuts down data until you turn it back on, it simply terminates
> the
> > > >> current data session. ANY data using program: Google Maps, email,
> web
> > > >> browsers, etc. can and will turn it back on when they next need it.
> > > >>
> > > >> If your device has no "turn off data when roaming" function, the
> safest
> > > >> thing to do when abroad is to switch your chosen "networks" in
> > > >> Start/Settings/Connections(Tab)/Connections'Advanced(Tab)/Select
> Networks
> > > >> to one without any celular data connections. As added insurance,
> I
> > > >> "munge" my cellular data settings- intentionally misspell the
> cellular
> > > >> APN so even if the odd program overrides all device data settings,
> it
> > > >> will get an error instead of connect.
> > > >>
> > > >> Having said all that, now I'll REALLY disappoint you!
> > > >>
> > > >> Unless Google Maps has changed radically in the last several
> months since
> > > >> I've used it, it requires a constant data connection. Trying to
> force it
> > > >> to run without one (used to at least) generate an error message
> saying
> > > >> the data connection was lost and asking you if it you wanted to
> retry.
> > > >> This nag message would pop up often enough to make the program
> unusable.
> > > >> Instead, you might try Microsoft's Bing for Mobile. It's similar
> to
> > > >> Google Maps, but it caches map data for use if your connection is
> lost.
> > > >> I used it last winter on a trip to Mexico without cellular data by
> > > >> connecting to hotel WiFi, opening my location, and scrolling
> around the
> > > >> screen in all directions at a few different zoom levels to load as
> much
> > > >> map data into the cache as possible, and was able to use the
> program
> > > >> without a data connection. (Of course functionality without
> connectivity
> > > >> was severely limited- you can't get directions or search for
> nearby
> > > >> businesses, etc.- it just functioned as a "moving map" with my
> location
> > > >> shown on it. Since I really just wanted it to find my way back to
> the
> > > >> hotel if lost, it was good enough.)
>
> .
>