In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have had
the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the world
becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices is ever
increasing. Few have met the mark.

HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have ever
had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the 2008 Touch
Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with an impressive
user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some of the high end
business functionality built into the device and you have a phone that could
well be the only phone business users could need. In my opinion this phone
has everything: A great keyboard, great display, an outstanding speaker
phone and good battery life. Now with the device on a variety of carriers
here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may be the answer to all your mobility
needs.

You can read the full review at
http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp

Regards,


--
Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
http://www.clintonfitch.com

Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices wrote:
> In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have
> had the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
> outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the
> world becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices
> is ever increasing. Few have met the mark.
>
> HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have
> ever had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the
> 2008 Touch Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with
> an impressive user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some
> of the high end business functionality built into the device and you
> have a phone that could well be the only phone business users could
> need. In my opinion this phone has everything: A great keyboard, great
> display, an outstanding speaker phone and good battery life. Now with
> the device on a variety of carriers here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may
> be the answer to all your mobility needs.
>
> You can read the full review at
> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp
>
> Regards,
>
>



Thanks.

Any sense of whether the Diamond2 has made the same strides?

When are they scheduled to be available with AT&T 850 3G radios?

Hello,

I have a review of the Diamond 2 coming in the next few weeks as well. I
was very impressed with that device as well. The two are really aimed at
slightly different markets given the Straight Talk in the TP2 while it is
not in the D2.

As for AT&T, it is my understanding based on what I have seen/read (nothing
official mind you - just information my colleagues in the community have
discovered) that most of the new devices for them will be out in the next
couple of weeks. The Tilt2 will be the AT&T version of the TP2. Not sure
what they will call the Diamond.

Regards,

--
Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
http://www.clintonfitch.com

>
> Thanks.
>
> Any sense of whether the Diamond2 has made the same strides?
>
> When are they scheduled to be available with AT&T 850 3G radios?

Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a review of the Diamond 2 coming in the next few weeks as well.
> I was very impressed with that device as well. The two are really aimed
> at slightly different markets given the Straight Talk in the TP2 while
> it is not in the D2.
>
> As for AT&T, it is my understanding based on what I have seen/read
> (nothing official mind you - just information my colleagues in the
> community have discovered) that most of the new devices for them will be
> out in the next couple of weeks. The Tilt2 will be the AT&T version of
> the TP2. Not sure what they will call the Diamond.
>
> Regards,
>

Thanks. Looking forward to your review.

Word is/was the D2 to be called "WarHawk".

I and a colleague have had this phone for about a fortnight and I would
concur except for it use as an actual phone!, To be honest I find it pretty
poor even in string reception areas.. In addition I think the micxrophone is
poorly placed and moving the phone just sligfhtly from optimal position
results in people not being able to hear you.. I've lost count already of
the times people have interjected in conversations that they cannot hear me.
Ironic that its great as a computing device but doesn't actually perform its
primary job well at all.

Geejay


"Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices" <management@clintonfitch.com> wrote in
message news:E3F2DBF8-1F3A-409F-AD32-4C8063683E74@microsoft.com...
> In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have had
> the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
> outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the
> world becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices
> is ever increasing. Few have met the mark.
>
> HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have
> ever had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the
> 2008 Touch Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with an
> impressive user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some of
> the high end business functionality built into the device and you have a
> phone that could well be the only phone business users could need. In my
> opinion this phone has everything: A great keyboard, great display, an
> outstanding speaker phone and good battery life. Now with the device on a
> variety of carriers here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may be the answer to
> all your mobility needs.
>
> You can read the full review at
> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp
>
> Regards,
>
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
> http://www.clintonfitch.com

And quite unbelievably neither the physical nor software keyboards have a
tab key! . Whats that all about ?

"gjb" <gjb@gjb.gjb> wrote in message
news:usiGvYhPKHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I and a colleague have had this phone for about a fortnight and I would
>concur except for it use as an actual phone!, To be honest I find it pretty
>poor even in string reception areas.. In addition I think the micxrophone
>is poorly placed and moving the phone just sligfhtly from optimal position
>results in people not being able to hear you.. I've lost count already of
>the times people have interjected in conversations that they cannot hear
>me.
> Ironic that its great as a computing device but doesn't actually perform
> its primary job well at all.
>
> Geejay
>
>
> "Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices" <management@clintonfitch.com> wrote in
> message news:E3F2DBF8-1F3A-409F-AD32-4C8063683E74@microsoft.com...
>> In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have had
>> the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
>> outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the
>> world becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices
>> is ever increasing. Few have met the mark.
>>
>> HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have
>> ever had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the
>> 2008 Touch Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with
>> an impressive user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some
>> of the high end business functionality built into the device and you have
>> a phone that could well be the only phone business users could need. In
>> my opinion this phone has everything: A great keyboard, great display, an
>> outstanding speaker phone and good battery life. Now with the device on a
>> variety of carriers here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may be the answer to
>> all your mobility needs.
>>
>> You can read the full review at
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
>

Because we get phones later then you folks, I like to hear what people have
to say about new phones being delivered here - better info.

Curious as to what "...poor even in string reception areas..." means. Were
the callers from different cities?

Maybe they figure the Tab key is just your finger?

-James


"gjb" <gjb@gjb.gjb> wrote in message
news:usiGvYhPKHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I and a colleague have had this phone for about a fortnight and I would
> concur except for it use as an actual phone!, To be honest I find it
> pretty poor even in string reception areas.. In addition I think the
> micxrophone is poorly placed and moving the phone just sligfhtly from
> optimal position results in people not being able to hear you.. I've lost
> count already of the times people have interjected in conversations that
> they cannot hear me.
> Ironic that its great as a computing device but doesn't actually perform
> its primary job well at all.
>
> Geejay
>
>
> "Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices" <management@clintonfitch.com> wrote in
> message news:E3F2DBF8-1F3A-409F-AD32-4C8063683E74@microsoft.com...
>> In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have had
>> the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
>> outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the
>> world becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices
>> is ever increasing. Few have met the mark.
>>
>> HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have
>> ever had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the
>> 2008 Touch Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with
>> an impressive user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some
>> of the high end business functionality built into the device and you have
>> a phone that could well be the only phone business users could need. In
>> my opinion this phone has everything: A great keyboard, great display, an
>> outstanding speaker phone and good battery life. Now with the device on a
>> variety of carriers here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may be the answer to
>> all your mobility needs.
>>
>> You can read the full review at
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
>

I mean that in the same conditions that my other phone (nokia) is clear and
undistorted, the TP2 sounds poor on both ends.

"James hotmail" <james_devitt********.com> wrote in message
news:D5278C6F-188C-4818-91DC-4DAF028AFF7C@microsoft.com...
> Because we get phones later then you folks, I like to hear what people
> have to say about new phones being delivered here - better info.
>
> Curious as to what "...poor even in string reception areas..." means. Were
> the callers from different cities?
>
> Maybe they figure the Tab key is just your finger?
>
> -James
>
>
> "gjb" <gjb@gjb.gjb> wrote in message
> news:usiGvYhPKHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I and a colleague have had this phone for about a fortnight and I would
>> concur except for it use as an actual phone!, To be honest I find it
>> pretty poor even in string reception areas.. In addition I think the
>> micxrophone is poorly placed and moving the phone just sligfhtly from
>> optimal position results in people not being able to hear you.. I've lost
>> count already of the times people have interjected in conversations that
>> they cannot hear me.
>> Ironic that its great as a computing device but doesn't actually perform
>> its primary job well at all.
>>
>> Geejay
>>
>>
>> "Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices" <management@clintonfitch.com> wrote
>> in message news:E3F2DBF8-1F3A-409F-AD32-4C8063683E74@microsoft.com...
>>> In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have
>>> had the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
>>> outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the
>>> world becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices
>>> is ever increasing. Few have met the mark.
>>>
>>> HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have
>>> ever had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the
>>> 2008 Touch Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with
>>> an impressive user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some
>>> of the high end business functionality built into the device and you
>>> have a phone that could well be the only phone business users could
>>> need. In my opinion this phone has everything: A great keyboard, great
>>> display, an outstanding speaker phone and good battery life. Now with
>>> the device on a variety of carriers here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may
>>> be the answer to all your mobility needs.
>>>
>>> You can read the full review at
>>> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
>>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>
>>

Hello,

Interesting. I used the TP2 in a Starbucks with a conference call going and
had very little trouble hearing people or people hearing me. Now I did mute
myself when I wasn't talking but that was so everyone could hear each other.
I found the communication to be full duplex so people could talk over me, I
over them, etc. and we would hear each other.

When I used it in a conference room setting it was stunningly good.

Did you have a HTC branded unit?

Regards,

--
Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
http://www.clintonfitch.com

"gjb" <gjb@gjb.gjb> wrote in message
news:usiGvYhPKHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I and a colleague have had this phone for about a fortnight and I would
> concur except for it use as an actual phone!, To be honest I find it
> pretty poor even in string reception areas.. In addition I think the
> micxrophone is poorly placed and moving the phone just sligfhtly from
> optimal position results in people not being able to hear you.. I've lost
> count already of the times people have interjected in conversations that
> they cannot hear me.
> Ironic that its great as a computing device but doesn't actually perform
> its primary job well at all.
>
> Geejay
>
>
> "Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices" <management@clintonfitch.com> wrote in
> message news:E3F2DBF8-1F3A-409F-AD32-4C8063683E74@microsoft.com...
>> In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have had
>> the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
>> outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the
>> world becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices
>> is ever increasing. Few have met the mark.
>>
>> HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have
>> ever had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the
>> 2008 Touch Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with
>> an impressive user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some
>> of the high end business functionality built into the device and you have
>> a phone that could well be the only phone business users could need. In
>> my opinion this phone has everything: A great keyboard, great display, an
>> outstanding speaker phone and good battery life. Now with the device on a
>> variety of carriers here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may be the answer to
>> all your mobility needs.
>>
>> You can read the full review at
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
>

Its a Vodafone supplied H/S with HTC and Vodafone etched onto the unit. I
suspect my problem is at least partially down to the location of the
microphone. As its a large device you tend to have your whole hand wrapped
aroung it and that can cover/obscure the microphone.


"Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices" <management@clintonfitch.com> wrote in
message news:6D302B57-8ECB-4151-8E9C-61B9D6E82F35@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> Interesting. I used the TP2 in a Starbucks with a conference call going
> and had very little trouble hearing people or people hearing me. Now I
> did mute myself when I wasn't talking but that was so everyone could hear
> each other. I found the communication to be full duplex so people could
> talk over me, I over them, etc. and we would hear each other.
>
> When I used it in a conference room setting it was stunningly good.
>
> Did you have a HTC branded unit?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
> "gjb" <gjb@gjb.gjb> wrote in message
> news:usiGvYhPKHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I and a colleague have had this phone for about a fortnight and I would
>> concur except for it use as an actual phone!, To be honest I find it
>> pretty poor even in string reception areas.. In addition I think the
>> micxrophone is poorly placed and moving the phone just sligfhtly from
>> optimal position results in people not being able to hear you.. I've lost
>> count already of the times people have interjected in conversations that
>> they cannot hear me.
>> Ironic that its great as a computing device but doesn't actually perform
>> its primary job well at all.
>>
>> Geejay
>>
>>
>> "Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices" <management@clintonfitch.com> wrote
>> in message news:E3F2DBF8-1F3A-409F-AD32-4C8063683E74@microsoft.com...
>>> In my ten years of running ClintonFitch.com and HPC:Factor.com I have
>>> had the opportunity to test many new devices. Some of these have been
>>> outstanding and others have been far less impressive. Today, with the
>>> world becoming more and more mobile-driven, the demands on these devices
>>> is ever increasing. Few have met the mark.
>>>
>>> HTC however could very well have produced one of the best phones I have
>>> ever had the chance to review in the Touch Pro 2. The successor to the
>>> 2008 Touch Pro has done some serious growing up and provides users with
>>> an impressive user experience from top to bottom. Couple this with some
>>> of the high end business functionality built into the device and you
>>> have a phone that could well be the only phone business users could
>>> need. In my opinion this phone has everything: A great keyboard, great
>>> display, an outstanding speaker phone and good battery life. Now with
>>> the device on a variety of carriers here in the US, the Touch Pro 2 may
>>> be the answer to all your mobility needs.
>>>
>>> You can read the full review at
>>> http://www.clintonfitch.com/reviews/...-2/default.asp
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
>>> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>>
>>

New development: All HTC devices have been removed from the AT&T
Wireless website.


Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Interesting. I used the TP2 in a Starbucks with a conference call going
> and had very little trouble hearing people or people hearing me. Now I
> did mute myself when I wasn't talking but that was so everyone could
> hear each other. I found the communication to be full duplex so people
> could talk over me, I over them, etc. and we would hear each other.
>
> When I used it in a conference room setting it was stunningly good.
>
> Did you have a HTC branded unit?
>
> Regards,
>

"All?" IIRC, they had been down to just one HTC model, the Fuze (Touch Pro
I), anyway.

Presumably they've sold out of Fuzes and they'll be launching the Tilt II
(Touch Pro II) in a few days.


At 02 Oct 2009 16:44:10 -0400 News wrote:
> New development: All HTC devices have been removed from the AT&T Wireless
website.
>
>
> Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Interesting. I used the TP2 in a Starbucks with a conference call
> > going and had very little trouble hearing people or people hearing me.
> > Now I did mute myself when I wasn't talking but that was so everyone
> > could hear each other. I found the communication to be full duplex so
> > people could talk over me, I over them, etc. and we would hear each
> > other.
> >
> > When I used it in a conference room setting it was stunningly good.
> >
> > Did you have a HTC branded unit?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>

Not sure that would be great marketing. Probably alienate the liberals, but
might increase market share in the conservatives. ;)

"News" <News@Group.Name> wrote in message
news:e8-dnfvUav_CcSHXnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4p2d@speakeasy.net...
>
> Thanks. Looking forward to your review.
>
> Word is/was the D2 to be called "WarHawk".

Guess they should offer it in a ChickenHawk version, too, eh?




Sven wrote:
> Not sure that would be great marketing. Probably alienate the liberals,
> but might increase market share in the conservatives. ;)
>
> "News" <News@Group.Name> wrote in message
> news:e8-dnfvUav_CcSHXnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4p2d@speakeasy.net...
>>
>> Thanks. Looking forward to your review.
>>
>> Word is/was the D2 to be called "WarHawk".
>

"gjb" <gjb@gjb.gjb> wrote in message
news:usiGvYhPKHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> ... pretty poor even in string reception areas...

Places where the signal is so strong you can use a piece of string instead
of an aerial and it still works?

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