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Old 01-25-2007, 06:30 AM
Beck
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Touch screen phones...?

About a month ago I was looking for a new phone and did the usual trips
around the numerous phone shops in my town. I saw a nice little phone
called the LG Chocolate which has a touch screen. The shop assistant said
not to bother with it. She has one of those phones and because of the touch
screen, when she is making a call, the touch from her ear kept pressing
buttons and cutting her off calls.

I was just wondering if touch screen PDA's with built in mobile phones have
the same problem? Or do they lock the screen during a call?

I have to say that its a very bad design decision from LG to have the touch
screen being interefered with during a call.

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:45 AM
Werner \Menneisyys\ Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
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Re: Touch screen phones...?

I've never had such problems with the 2.8" HTC models. That is, you can
safely go for any PPC PE device.

Having a screen protector on he screen may help the problem if you do
encounter it - or using BT headsets.

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"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
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> About a month ago I was looking for a new phone and did the usual trips
> around the numerous phone shops in my town. I saw a nice little phone
> called the LG Chocolate which has a touch screen. The shop assistant said
> not to bother with it. She has one of those phones and because of the
> touch screen, when she is making a call, the touch from her ear kept
> pressing buttons and cutting her off calls.
>
> I was just wondering if touch screen PDA's with built in mobile phones
> have the same problem? Or do they lock the screen during a call?
>
> I have to say that its a very bad design decision from LG to have the
> touch screen being interefered with during a call.



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Old 01-25-2007, 07:00 AM
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Re: Touch screen phones...?


"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
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> I've never had such problems with the 2.8" HTC models. That is, you can
> safely go for any PPC PE device.
>
> Having a screen protector on he screen may help the problem if you do
> encounter it - or using BT headsets.


Hi Werner,

I am not looking to replace my new Acer just yet, maybe next year. I was
just curious as to whether this was just a fault of that particular phone or
possibly a common problem with touch screens and whether PPC/phones had some
kind of protection to stop that happening.

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Old 01-25-2007, 07:15 AM
Werner \Menneisyys\ Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
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Re: Touch screen phones...?

Personally, i don't have a Chocolate so I can't comment on that particular
model. HTC's current 2.8" models are not problematic in this respect, I'm
absolutely sure, and particularly not with a screen protector.

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"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
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>
> "Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
> <!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
> news:OW%23St2IQHHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I've never had such problems with the 2.8" HTC models. That is, you can
>> safely go for any PPC PE device.
>>
>> Having a screen protector on he screen may help the problem if you do
>> encounter it - or using BT headsets.

>
> Hi Werner,
>
> I am not looking to replace my new Acer just yet, maybe next year. I was
> just curious as to whether this was just a fault of that particular phone
> or possibly a common problem with touch screens and whether PPC/phones had
> some kind of protection to stop that happening.



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Old 01-25-2007, 08:45 AM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Touch screen phones...?

If it's a problem, you can also power the unit down when you start the
call... the ppc part including the screen is deactivated but the phone
call can proceed.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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Old 01-25-2007, 09:30 AM
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Re: Touch screen phones...?


"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:OZKs48JQHHA.1604@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If it's a problem, you can also power the unit down when you start the
> call... the ppc part including the screen is deactivated but the phone
> call can proceed.


Ah that is interesting thanks. I did not realise they could work as
seperate entities.

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Old 01-25-2007, 10:15 AM
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>> If it's a problem, you can also power the unit down when you start the
>> call... the ppc part including the screen is deactivated but the phone
>> call can proceed.

>
> Ah that is interesting thanks. I did not realise they could work as
> seperate entities.


You power down the display only that include digitizer, not the entire PPC.
It happened me mybe once on my HTC, it is not a problem, but maybe some have
more sensitive touchscreen.
Touchscreens are addictive, so now when I take a regular cell phone in my
hands I keep pressing the screen, and notting happens :-)


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Old 01-25-2007, 10:30 AM
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Re: Touch screen phones...?

The Treo 700W has a function to shut off the touch screen when on a call.
Never had such a problem with my XV6700, though the touch screen stays on.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the indentation of the screen. Is
the LGs screen flush with the phone? The XVs screen is indented a couple
mm, and my case adds a little more.

If your going to use Bluetooth, then it doesn't matter.

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"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
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> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:OZKs48JQHHA.1604@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> If it's a problem, you can also power the unit down when you start the
>> call... the ppc part including the screen is deactivated but the phone
>> call can proceed.

>
> Ah that is interesting thanks. I did not realise they could work as
> seperate entities.




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Old 01-25-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: Touch screen phones...?


"Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The Treo 700W has a function to shut off the touch screen when on a call.
> Never had such a problem with my XV6700, though the touch screen stays on.
> I wonder if it has anything to do with the indentation of the screen. Is
> the LGs screen flush with the phone? The XVs screen is indented a couple
> mm, and my case adds a little more.


IIRC the LG phone had no indentation and was smooth all over.
http://www.mobile-phones-uk.org.uk/l...late-kg800.htm

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Old 01-25-2007, 12:00 PM
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"Now" <f@air.com> wrote in message news:eparho$1dd$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
>>> If it's a problem, you can also power the unit down when you start the
>>> call... the ppc part including the screen is deactivated but the phone
>>> call can proceed.

>>
>> Ah that is interesting thanks. I did not realise they could work as
>> seperate entities.

>
> You power down the display only that include digitizer, not the entire
> PPC. It happened me mybe once on my HTC, it is not a problem, but maybe
> some have more sensitive touchscreen.
> Touchscreens are addictive, so now when I take a regular cell phone in my
> hands I keep pressing the screen, and notting happens :-)


Yeah I find myself going to bed early now just so I can use pocket msn. lol

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Old 01-25-2007, 01:00 PM
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Re: Touch screen phones...?

As edgar pointed out, the treo 700w has an option in settings to disable the
touch screen when on a call, however one of the nice things about a
convergent device is the ability to look up things and take notes while on a
call. especially when using a headset. If the touchscreen is disabled, you
loose this functionality.
I have hit the start button and even launched a program or two with my fat
cheeks, if I press the device to hard against my face, but have never had it
interfere or disconnect my call.


"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
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>
> "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45b8e771$0$24340$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> The Treo 700W has a function to shut off the touch screen when on a call.
>> Never had such a problem with my XV6700, though the touch screen stays
>> on. I wonder if it has anything to do with the indentation of the screen.
>> Is the LGs screen flush with the phone? The XVs screen is indented a
>> couple mm, and my case adds a little more.

>
> IIRC the LG phone had no indentation and was smooth all over.
> http://www.mobile-phones-uk.org.uk/l...late-kg800.htm



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"Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
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>
> "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45b8e771$0$24340$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> The Treo 700W has a function to shut off the touch screen when on a call.
>> Never had such a problem with my XV6700, though the touch screen stays
>> on. I wonder if it has anything to do with the indentation of the screen.
>> Is the LGs screen flush with the phone? The XVs screen is indented a
>> couple mm, and my case adds a little more.

>
> IIRC the LG phone had no indentation and was smooth all over.
> http://www.mobile-phones-uk.org.uk/l...late-kg800.htm


I would say that it's a good chance that is one of the reasons that happens.
Not too mention it probably has some Verizon interface that puts a call
disconnect button right where your cheek touches when talking :).

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Old 01-25-2007, 03:45 PM
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Re: Touch screen phones...?

>> disable touch screen <<

In general, powering a ppc-pe off within a call essentially turns off
the screen and non telephone buttons... the call, end and volume buttons
still function and the ppc powers on when the call ends or (I assume) a
second call or message comes in.

Of course, if the phone doesn't have call and end buttons, a screen
disable would be necessary ;-)

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Old 01-25-2007, 04:45 PM
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"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
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> >> disable touch screen <<

>
> In general, powering a ppc-pe off within a call essentially turns off the
> screen and non telephone buttons... the call, end and volume buttons still
> function and the ppc powers on when the call ends or (I assume) a second
> call or message comes in.
>
> Of course, if the phone doesn't have call and end buttons, a screen
> disable would be necessary ;-)
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>


There's another thing I learned. I always thought it would shut off the
phone too. Thanks :)

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Old 01-25-2007, 05:00 PM
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"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:usm9qnNQHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> disable touch screen <<

>
> In general, powering a ppc-pe off within a call essentially turns off the
> screen and non telephone buttons... the call, end and volume buttons still
> function and the ppc powers on when the call ends or (I assume) a second
> call or message comes in.
>
> Of course, if the phone doesn't have call and end buttons, a screen
> disable would be necessary ;-)
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>


Now we just need to hook up the power button to an accelerometer and we're
set :-)

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