"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have to think the lack of any navigation controls
> would break compatibility with many 3rd-party apps.

I got an idea.

Since the Pro 2 / Diamond 2 are going to have a "Zoom Bar" maybe they can do
something like this with the "Zoom Bar."

Put little lines on it somehow like the following.

|----|----|----|----|

Where the lines mean up, right, home or enter, down and left.

Then they could call it the I-Pad right? Oh yeah, the I should be on it's
side so it would look more like |--|-Pad.

BTW I wonder if anybody will ever make a Bluetooth D-Pad for the Touch Pro
2.

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> BTW I wonder if anybody will ever make a Bluetooth D-Pad for the Touch Pro
> 2.

I just noticed that someone makes a Bluetooth D-Pad for the iPhone

"GameBone Pro brings Bluetooth D-pad and buttons to iPhone games"
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhon...ws.asp?c=14033

Wow, that's pretty cool. Guess I shouda RTFM...oh wait, there wasn't one.
Guess that should have been obvious.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
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> Here's a trick it took me several months to accidentally discover on my
> wife's iToy:
>
> When you want to position the cursor in a piece of text, like a mistyped
> URL, hold your finger on the text for a few "Mississippi", and a little
> magnifying glass pops up with the area your finger is covering enlarged
> inside. Now lift your finger and place it in the magnifying glass where
> you want the cursor placed.
>
> So intuitive, eh?
>
>
> As I often joke, we use styli instead of fingers on touchscreens for the
> same reason we write with pens instead of fingerpaints.
>
>
> At 04 Aug 2009 20:30:09 -0600 Sven wrote:
>> On the iphone I would at least like to see cursor buttons on the on-
>> screen keyboard. It is virtually impossible to position the cursor
>> accurately within text. With the finger typing as crappy as it is, for
>> me anyway, I often notice a mistake a few letters back. I have never
>> managed to get the cursor where I need it to backspace over a
>> character. With the copy and paste feature now in 3.0, it typically
>> assesses the attempt to position the cursor as wanting to highlight and
>> do one of those brand new innovative functions. So I wind up
>> backspacing almost as much as I type. Give me a stylus, (even with
>> Transcriber) or a real keyboard any day I actually need to enter
>> something on my iPhone.
>>
>> So, take that as an endorsement of a D-Pad, especially if you don't get
>> an up,down,left,right option some other way.
>>
>>
>> <r_z_aret@pen_fact.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:53:46 -0500, Beverly Howard
>> > <Bev@NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Assume it's primarily a cost issue, then style and copying the i...
>> >
>> > I'm pretty sure I heard a claim that the DPad is not necessary with UI
>> > that makes finger control easy. And it adds bulk to the device. Would
>> > a DPad help iPhone users enough to justify the extra cost and bulk? I
>> > sure don't think _current_ Windows Mobile UI can do without it.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>The lack of cursor buttons is a huge detriment to serious usability.
>> >>
>> >>Beverly Howard
>> >
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>> >
>> > Robert E. Zaret, eMVP
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>>
>>
>

Sven wrote:
> Wow, that's pretty cool. Guess I shouda RTFM...oh wait, there wasn't
> one. Guess that should have been obvious.

Or, er, intuitive...

>> trying to turn her kindle pages by stroking the upper right corner
of the unit... <<

fwiw, I finally downloaded a few kindle ebooks on Rebecca's iTouch in
prep for a trip she's taking in about a month which will include a
couple of 10 hour flights where they will likely be appreciated.

The biggest complaint I have with the iphone/itouch kindle app is that
it has zero documentation, so, getting up and running is a stumble and
frustrate as you go...

....however, I have to admit it's a good ebook reader interface.

One handed reading is easy, turning pages either way using just a short
thumb screen stroke.

"Bookmarks" took a while to discover... you "dog ear" the upper right
corner. No apparent "annotation" option though.

There is a "lock" option to turn off screen rotation... essential for
reading in bed.

Beverly Howard