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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
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>
> The only .mp4s I ever remember the Wizard playing were the video clips
> shot with its own camera.

WMP on my Wizard plays the mp4s that are generated with http://zamzar.com
and those are the only MP4s I have. BTW I tried those same MP4s with WMP on
a Tilt and I could not get them to play..

> I never had a Mogul (I likely would've had I ever been a Sprint customer)
> but it seemed like a decent phone.

Yes, the Mogul was a decent phone but for all it's memory it still had
memory problems.

BTW out of everybody I know that had a Mogul all but one of them moved to a
Touch Pro. Me, when the buttons messed up on my Mogul for the second time I
paid $50 to have it replaced with a Touch Pro. After the screen on my Touch
Pro started messing up over half the time I got it replaced with another
Touch Pro. Then after having a working Touch Pro for a while I bought a
used Touch Diamond since I was expecting more problems with the Pro.

> Or, it would be, if it had a 3.5mm headphone jack. ;)

The Wizard I have has a headphone jack and it works just fine with the
headset that came with it but it isn't wired to use with anything else but
that headphone. I bought an adapter at Radio Shack and when I used the
adapter it lost the Stereo. So it was either do some rewiring somewhere or
get Stereo A2DP to work. Turns out I got the Stereo A2DP to work first.

> Assuming the
> phone isn't needed, a good old Dell Axim X51v would make a much better
> media player, IMO, with it's dual SD/CF slot support.

Yes, that Dell Axim probably would make a better MP3 player than the Wizard
but I don't have Dell Axim. And your description of the dual slot sounds
sort of like the HP iPAQ 211. FYI the 211 uses SDHC and the CF slot on the
211 also supports a microdrive. But a playlist generated on the iPAQ 211 is
not transferable to the Wizard since they use different names for the memory
cards.

> I believe A2DP and
> AVRCP have been hacked onto the Axim:

http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x...-axim-x51.html

GREAT LINK and the patch to get the A2DP/AVRCP to work on WM5 has to be
installed in those exact same steps for some reason. You would think it
would take just one program or cab file but it takes both of them listed in
the URL above.

Then to clear out the crazy listing it places in the installed programs go
to windows/AppMgr and delete the directory it installed.

Then after you delete that directory try to remove the program with "Removce
Programs" and it will just remove the crazy name from the list and stay
installed and fully functional..

When I used to use my Wizard all the time the biggest let down was the lack
of BT Stereo. Now that it has BT Stereo I wonder if I'll pack it away again
or throw it on my dashboard as an MP3 player.

At 25 Jul 2009 14:01:58 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
> cross posted to pocketpc.
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
> news:yGGam.38068$nL7.29158@newsfe18.iad...
> >
> > The only .mp4s I ever remember the Wizard playing were the video clips
> > shot with its own camera.
>
> WMP on my Wizard plays the mp4s that are generated with
http://zamzar.com
> and those are the only MP4s I have. BTW I tried those same MP4s with
WMP on
> a Tilt and I could not get them to play..


My Tilt plays the .mp4s made with its own camera in WMP, but no other MP4s.
Not a great hardship- TCPMP is fre and plays .avis, and Coreplayer is
about $30 and plays virtually everything including .mp4s and YouTube
videos.


> > Or, it [the Wizard] would be [a good media player], if it had a 3.5mm
> > headphone jack. ;)
>
> The Wizard I have has a headphone jack and it works just fine with the
> headset that came with it but it isn't wired to use with anything else
> but that headphone. I bought an adapter at Radio Shack and when I used
> the adapter it lost the Stereo. So it was either do some rewiring
> somewhere or get Stereo A2DP to work. Turns out I got the Stereo A2DP
> to work first.


I used several RadioShack 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptors without any problems-
RS sells several models of those adapters- some are designed for mono
use.

I have several of these:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062470

....which work fine in a pinch (they pass stereo sound), but are awkward
due to their inflexiblity (hard plastic, rather than a flexible cable).
I also have some cheap eBay-sourced adapter cables that also work.

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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
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>
> My Tilt plays the .mp4s made with its own camera in WMP, but no other
MP4s.
> Not a great hardship- TCPMP is fre and plays .avis, and Coreplayer is
> about $30 and plays virtually everything including .mp4s and YouTube
> videos.

Have you tried either one of those players with AVRCP?

BTW I tried playing one of my MP4s without using Stereo BT yesterday and it
played just fine. That means that BT Stereo sure takes a lot of processor
power. Now I'll have to find some sort of program to tell me just how much
processor power an active BT Stereo connection uses.

> I have several of these:
> http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062470

THANKS for that link. BTW I took my Wizard and a headset to Radio Shack and
tried the 274-373 you listed above before I bought it. The Stereo
separation worked just like it should but the headset that comes with the
Wizard has 4 connectors on the 2.5 mm jack so I always thought I had to get
an adapter like this one:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2603246

BTW the 274-0004 with the four connectors is needed for newer HTC phones
that use the Y adapter for the headphone jack.

At 26 Jul 2009 14:13:27 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
> sprintpcs removed
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
> news:3ZQam.27318$8l4.26760@newsfe10.iad...
> >
> > My Tilt plays the .mp4s made with its own camera in WMP, but no other
> MP4s.
> > Not a great hardship- TCPMP is fre and plays .avis, and Coreplayer is
> > about $30 and plays virtually everything including .mp4s and YouTube
> > videos.
>
> Have you tried either one of those players with AVRCP?


Noe. I don't use BT stereo headphones.


> BTW I tried playing one of my MP4s without using Stereo BT yesterday
and it
> played just fine. That means that BT Stereo sure takes a lot of
processor
> power. Now I'll have to find some sort of program to tell me just how
much
> processor power an active BT Stereo connection uses.
>
> > I have several of these:
> > http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062470
>
> THANKS for that link. BTW I took my Wizard and a headset to Radio
Shack and
> tried the 274-373 you listed above before I bought it. The Stereo
> separation worked just like it should but the headset that comes with
the
> Wizard has 4 connectors on the 2.5 mm jack so I always thought I had to
get
> an adapter like this one:
> http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2603246
>
> BTW the 274-0004 with the four connectors is needed for newer HTC phones
> that use the Y adapter for the headphone jack.


Ah, good to know...

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
news:Fq2bm.145484$Ta5.4851@newsfe15.iad...
> At 26 Jul 2009 14:13:27 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
> > sprintpcs removed
> >
> > Have you tried either one of those players with AVRCP?
>
> No. I don't use BT stereo headphones.

I wish the salesman at Radio Shack with an iPhone would have given me an
answer as simple as that. Instead he tried to tell me that you can add
AVRCP to an iPhone with a program called Apple Inc Remote.

I looked up Apple Inc Remote later and it does not add AVRCP to an iPhone.
I should have known he was full of it when he had to ask me what AVRCP stood
for.

BTW it turns out there really is a way to add AVRCP to an iPhone.

http://www.modmyi.com/forums/member-...p-reality.html

(Strange - I can't find the original posts of this thread.)

1. iPhone OS 3 only supports PARTIAL AVRCP. In this regard, WinMo is *way*
better. (And the iPhone 3G hardware is clearly inferior to that of many?
all? WinMo phones when it comes to using Wi-Fi + A2DP at the same time. See
my dedicated posts on thios over at iPhone Life.)

2. With iPhone OS 3, you don't need the external dongles anymore for A2DP -
unless, of course, you do need full AVRCP (and not just pause / resume).

3. an alterntive to the missing AVRCP in OS3 is using Voice Control on 3G S
phones. It works wonderfully on my 3G S. (I control it in Finnish; don't
know whether the English control is as reliable as the Finnish one as I've,
due to my non-native English pronunciation, I've never tried this.)

As far as WinMo's AD2P / AVRCP and the BT stereo headphones are concerned,
please check out my dedicated articles - I've publsihed many of them on all
issues imaginable (cpompatibility, quality etc). Start with my iPphone Life
article, it also links to my WinMo one.
http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/fu...dp-iphone-os-3
and
http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/wa...ny-headphones-


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Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
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"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:FqWdndb0prLLjxnXnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com ...
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
> news:Fq2bm.145484$Ta5.4851@newsfe15.iad...
>> At 26 Jul 2009 14:13:27 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
>> > sprintpcs removed
>> >
>> > Have you tried either one of those players with AVRCP?
>>
>> No. I don't use BT stereo headphones.
>
> I wish the salesman at Radio Shack with an iPhone would have given me an
> answer as simple as that. Instead he tried to tell me that you can add
> AVRCP to an iPhone with a program called Apple Inc Remote.
>
> I looked up Apple Inc Remote later and it does not add AVRCP to an iPhone.
> I should have known he was full of it when he had to ask me what AVRCP
> stood
> for.
>
> BTW it turns out there really is a way to add AVRCP to an iPhone.
>
> http://www.modmyi.com/forums/member-...p-reality.html
>
>

> WMP on my Wizard plays the mp4s that are generated with http://zamzar.com
> and those are the only MP4s I have. BTW I tried those same MP4s with WMP
> on
> a Tilt and I could not get them to play..

Inside, MP4 files (MP4 is just a container and doesn't restrict the video
codec formats usable inside it) can be anything. It may have been H.264;
this is why the (pretty incapable) built-in player couldn't play it, as
opposed to the much simpler (and more primitive) H.263, the native (crappy)
format of most built-in cameras.


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--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:2_mdnZ4TycyBy_bXnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> cross posted to pocketpc.
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
> news:yGGam.38068$nL7.29158@newsfe18.iad...
>>
>> The only .mp4s I ever remember the Wizard playing were the video clips
>> shot with its own camera.
>
> WMP on my Wizard plays the mp4s that are generated with http://zamzar.com
> and those are the only MP4s I have. BTW I tried those same MP4s with WMP
> on
> a Tilt and I could not get them to play..
>
>> I never had a Mogul (I likely would've had I ever been a Sprint customer)
>> but it seemed like a decent phone.
>
> Yes, the Mogul was a decent phone but for all it's memory it still had
> memory problems.
>
> BTW out of everybody I know that had a Mogul all but one of them moved to
> a
> Touch Pro. Me, when the buttons messed up on my Mogul for the second time
> I
> paid $50 to have it replaced with a Touch Pro. After the screen on my
> Touch
> Pro started messing up over half the time I got it replaced with another
> Touch Pro. Then after having a working Touch Pro for a while I bought a
> used Touch Diamond since I was expecting more problems with the Pro.
>
>> Or, it would be, if it had a 3.5mm headphone jack. ;)
>
> The Wizard I have has a headphone jack and it works just fine with the
> headset that came with it but it isn't wired to use with anything else but
> that headphone. I bought an adapter at Radio Shack and when I used the
> adapter it lost the Stereo. So it was either do some rewiring somewhere
> or
> get Stereo A2DP to work. Turns out I got the Stereo A2DP to work first.
>
>> Assuming the
>> phone isn't needed, a good old Dell Axim X51v would make a much better
>> media player, IMO, with it's dual SD/CF slot support.
>
> Yes, that Dell Axim probably would make a better MP3 player than the
> Wizard
> but I don't have Dell Axim. And your description of the dual slot sounds
> sort of like the HP iPAQ 211. FYI the 211 uses SDHC and the CF slot on
> the
> 211 also supports a microdrive. But a playlist generated on the iPAQ 211
> is
> not transferable to the Wizard since they use different names for the
> memory
> cards.
>
>> I believe A2DP and
>> AVRCP have been hacked onto the Axim:
>
> http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x...-axim-x51.html
>
> GREAT LINK and the patch to get the A2DP/AVRCP to work on WM5 has to be
> installed in those exact same steps for some reason. You would think it
> would take just one program or cab file but it takes both of them listed
> in
> the URL above.
>
> Then to clear out the crazy listing it places in the installed programs go
> to windows/AppMgr and delete the directory it installed.
>
> Then after you delete that directory try to remove the program with
> "Removce
> Programs" and it will just remove the crazy name from the list and stay
> installed and fully functional..
>
> When I used to use my Wizard all the time the biggest let down was the
> lack
> of BT Stereo. Now that it has BT Stereo I wonder if I'll pack it away
> again
> or throw it on my dashboard as an MP3 player.
>
>

>>BTW I tried playing one of my MP4s without using Stereo BT yesterday and
>>it
played just fine. That means that BT Stereo sure takes a lot of processor
power. Now I'll have to find some sort of program to tell me just how much
processor power an active BT Stereo connection uses.<<

acbTaskMan. Nevertheless, I've already conducted these tests (see my
dedicated articles). My results show that it's mostly dependent on the
actual CPU type - just like on the iPhone.

For example, with the prev-gen Samsung CPU's, CPU usage can easily be 50% at
400 MHz. With Xscales and TI OMAP's, the figure is far betterr - between 20
and 30%.

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--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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> sprintpcs removed
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
> news:3ZQam.27318$8l4.26760@newsfe10.iad...
>>
>> My Tilt plays the .mp4s made with its own camera in WMP, but no other
> MP4s.
>> Not a great hardship- TCPMP is fre and plays .avis, and Coreplayer is
>> about $30 and plays virtually everything including .mp4s and YouTube
>> videos.
>
> Have you tried either one of those players with AVRCP?
>
> BTW I tried playing one of my MP4s without using Stereo BT yesterday and
> it
> played just fine. That means that BT Stereo sure takes a lot of processor
> power. Now I'll have to find some sort of program to tell me just how
> much
> processor power an active BT Stereo connection uses.
>
>> I have several of these:
>> http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062470
>
> THANKS for that link. BTW I took my Wizard and a headset to Radio Shack
> and
> tried the 274-373 you listed above before I bought it. The Stereo
> separation worked just like it should but the headset that comes with the
> Wizard has 4 connectors on the 2.5 mm jack so I always thought I had to
> get
> an adapter like this one:
> http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2603246
>
> BTW the 274-0004 with the four connectors is needed for newer HTC phones
> that use the Y adapter for the headphone jack.
>
>