I don't really need the entire Activesync just the drivers to get the
USB PAN working on Windows Millennium or Windows 98SE.

I've searched Microsoft's site and can't find an earlier version of
Activesync anywhere.

Any ideas besides upgrade to XP?

TIA

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:f84db96a-68aa-43b7-8363-8ea29879b709@w40g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>I don't really need the entire Activesync just the drivers to get the
> USB PAN working on Windows Millennium or Windows 98SE.
>
> I've searched Microsoft's site and can't find an earlier version of
> Activesync anywhere.
>
> Any ideas besides upgrade to XP?
>
> TIA

google activesync 3.8 download

On May 27, 8:14*am, "john" <j...@msn.com> wrote:
> "Roger 2008" <rw...@att.net> wrote in message
>
> news:f84db96a-68aa-43b7-8363-8ea29879b709@w40g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I don't really need the entire Activesync just the drivers to get the
> > USB PAN working on Windows Millennium or Windows 98SE.
>
> > I've searched Microsoft's site and can't find an earlier version of
> > Activesync anywhere.
>
> > Any ideas besides upgrade to XP?
>
> > TIA
>
> google activesync 3.8 download

Thanks and I tried that. It installs OK but it doesn't get past
looking for new drivers for Generic RNDIS. So I guess I have to
google "Generic RNDIS + Millennium" now.

You didn't mention which winmobile device you have... for example, win5
and above requires async 4.x which requires xp or above.

>> RNDIS <<

If it's discussing rndis, it might not be 3.x ...don't think that was in
async until 4.x

Note that microsoft redirects 3.x searchers to the current version
without making that clear.

>> Win98 <<

I'm fuzzy on this, but, think 3.8 required xp... not sure which version
made the split off of 98

http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/syncsoft/activesync for older versions
of activesync.

Beverly Howard

"Beverly Howard" <Bev@NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in message
news:eq1Augv3JHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You didn't mention which winmobile device you have... for example, win5
> and above requires async 4.x which requires xp or above.
>
> >> RNDIS <<
>
> If it's discussing rndis, it might not be 3.x ...don't think that was in
> async until 4.x
>
> Note that microsoft redirects 3.x searchers to the current version
> without making that clear.
>
> >> Win98 <<
>
> I'm fuzzy on this, but, think 3.8 required xp... not sure which version
> made the split off of 98
>
> http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/syncsoft/activesync for older versions
> of activesync.
>
> Beverly Howard


Thanks for the info and I downloaded Activesync 3.8 from the site you listed
above and it installed on Windows 98SE.

I have a WM5 device, a WM6 device and a WM6.1 device and I tried to get
phone as modem to work on all three of them but no luck yet. I even changed
the setting for the USB port on the PPC and that didn't change much.

BTW it isn't mandatory that I get USB PAN to work on Windows 98 but I wanted
to try it out since I still have a Windows 98 computer around.

At 27 May 2009 22:00:36 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:

> > You didn't mention which winmobile device you have... for example,
win5
> > and above requires async 4.x which requires xp or above.
> >
> > >> RNDIS <<
> >
> > If it's discussing rndis, it might not be 3.x ...don't think that was
in
> > async until 4.x
> >
> > Note that microsoft redirects 3.x searchers to the current version
> > without making that clear.
> >
> > >> Win98 <<
> >
> > I'm fuzzy on this, but, think 3.8 required xp... not sure which
version
> > made the split off of 98
> >
> > http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/syncsoft/activesync for older
versions
> > of activesync.
> >
> > Beverly Howard
>
>
> Thanks for the info and I downloaded Activesync 3.8 from the site you
listed
> above and it installed on Windows 98SE.
>
> I have a WM5 device, a WM6 device and a WM6.1 device and I tried to get
> phone as modem to work on all three of them but no luck yet. I even
changed
> the setting for the USB port on the PPC and that didn't change much.
>
> BTW it isn't mandatory that I get USB PAN to work on Windows 98 but I
wanted
> to try it out since I still have a Windows 98 computer around.


I think Activesync is a dead-end- typically the various versions of
Activesync only included drivers for devices that existed up to that time.

As Activesync 3.8 doesn't recognize WM5+ devices, and WinMo didn't
support PAN natively pre-WM5 (so 3.8 presumably has no PAN drivers), I
suspect you'll probably have to use Bluetooth.

There is a "USB Modem" driver floating around for the HTC Wizard (WM5)
that was independent of Activesync. Whether that'd work on any other
device, I couldn't tell you. You can find it, as well as some info, here:

http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=269

I did use it with my old Wizard once or twice via USB, but I usually
tethered via BT.

The article claims the driver is for Win 2000 and XP, but I suspect it's
worth a shot.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
news:7LpTl.36055$ho7.22470@newsfe10.iad...
> At 27 May 2009 22:00:36 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
>
> > > You didn't mention which winmobile device you have... for example,
> win5
> > > and above requires async 4.x which requires xp or above.
> > >
> > > >> RNDIS <<
> > >
> > > If it's discussing rndis, it might not be 3.x ...don't think that was
> in
> > > async until 4.x
> > >
> > > Note that microsoft redirects 3.x searchers to the current version
> > > without making that clear.
> > >
> > > >> Win98 <<
> > >
> > > I'm fuzzy on this, but, think 3.8 required xp... not sure which
> version
> > > made the split off of 98
> > >
> > > http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/syncsoft/activesync for older
> versions
> > > of activesync.
> > >
> > > Beverly Howard
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info and I downloaded Activesync 3.8 from the site you
> listed
> > above and it installed on Windows 98SE.
> >
> > I have a WM5 device, a WM6 device and a WM6.1 device and I tried to get
> > phone as modem to work on all three of them but no luck yet. I even
> changed
> > the setting for the USB port on the PPC and that didn't change much.
> >
> > BTW it isn't mandatory that I get USB PAN to work on Windows 98 but I
> wanted
> > to try it out since I still have a Windows 98 computer around.
>
>
> I think Activesync is a dead-end- typically the various versions of
> Activesync only included drivers for devices that existed up to that time.
>
> As Activesync 3.8 doesn't recognize WM5+ devices, and WinMo didn't
> support PAN natively pre-WM5 (so 3.8 presumably has no PAN drivers), I
> suspect you'll probably have to use Bluetooth.

Bluetooth? Yes, since all I'm looking for is a way to use my phone for the
Internet that would work too but the Bluetooth Dongle I have only supports
WINDOWS 2000 and up.

I read somewhere there was a Bluetooth Dongle that supports Windows 98 but I
couldn't find it locally and now I've forgotten who makes it. Maybe I
should check out a newsgroup that deals with 98 or ME.

BTW I dug out my copy of Outlook 2000 tonight and I wonder if it will work
with Activesync.

http://www.iogear.com/support/dm/driver/GBU211#display
This says a driver for 98SE.
--
Ron Sommer

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:PKKdnZcD-YJcpIPXnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote in message
> news:7LpTl.36055$ho7.22470@newsfe10.iad...
>> At 27 May 2009 22:00:36 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
>>
>> > > You didn't mention which winmobile device you have... for example,
>> win5
>> > > and above requires async 4.x which requires xp or above.
>> > >
>> > > >> RNDIS <<
>> > >
>> > > If it's discussing rndis, it might not be 3.x ...don't think that was
>> in
>> > > async until 4.x
>> > >
>> > > Note that microsoft redirects 3.x searchers to the current version
>> > > without making that clear.
>> > >
>> > > >> Win98 <<
>> > >
>> > > I'm fuzzy on this, but, think 3.8 required xp... not sure which
>> version
>> > > made the split off of 98
>> > >
>> > > http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/syncsoft/activesync for older
>> versions
>> > > of activesync.
>> > >
>> > > Beverly Howard
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info and I downloaded Activesync 3.8 from the site you
>> listed
>> > above and it installed on Windows 98SE.
>> >
>> > I have a WM5 device, a WM6 device and a WM6.1 device and I tried to get
>> > phone as modem to work on all three of them but no luck yet. I even
>> changed
>> > the setting for the USB port on the PPC and that didn't change much.
>> >
>> > BTW it isn't mandatory that I get USB PAN to work on Windows 98 but I
>> wanted
>> > to try it out since I still have a Windows 98 computer around.
>>
>>
>> I think Activesync is a dead-end- typically the various versions of
>> Activesync only included drivers for devices that existed up to that
>> time.
>>
>> As Activesync 3.8 doesn't recognize WM5+ devices, and WinMo didn't
>> support PAN natively pre-WM5 (so 3.8 presumably has no PAN drivers), I
>> suspect you'll probably have to use Bluetooth.
>
> Bluetooth? Yes, since all I'm looking for is a way to use my phone for
> the
> Internet that would work too but the Bluetooth Dongle I have only supports
> WINDOWS 2000 and up.
>
> I read somewhere there was a Bluetooth Dongle that supports Windows 98 but
> I
> couldn't find it locally and now I've forgotten who makes it. Maybe I
> should check out a newsgroup that deals with 98 or ME.
>
> BTW I dug out my copy of Outlook 2000 tonight and I wonder if it will work
> with Activesync.
>
>

At 28 May 2009 02:17:42 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:

> > > BTW it isn't mandatory that I get USB PAN to work on Windows 98 but
I
> > wanted
> > > to try it out since I still have a Windows 98 computer around.
> >
> >
> > I think Activesync is a dead-end- typically the various versions of
> > Activesync only included drivers for devices that existed up to that
time.
> >
> > As Activesync 3.8 doesn't recognize WM5+ devices, and WinMo didn't
> > support PAN natively pre-WM5 (so 3.8 presumably has no PAN drivers), I
> > suspect you'll probably have to use Bluetooth.
>
> Bluetooth? Yes, since all I'm looking for is a way to use my phone for
> the Internet that would work too but the Bluetooth Dongle I have only
> supports WINDOWS 2000 and up.


I have one of the earliest versions of the DLink DBT-120, it supports 98
and up, but newer hardware revisions don't. (D-Link has an annoying
habit of reusing the same model number forever- the DBT-120 is the only
number they've ever used for a USB BT dongle, and it's ben sold for at
least 7 or 8 years in several hardware revisions, each with incompatible
drivers!)

Ironically, I still have a Win98 notebook but have never used the dongle
on it- the notebook lacks USB ports. I used to sync my PDAs with it (and
even use DUN) via the built-in IR port!

> BTW I dug out my copy of Outlook 2000 tonight and I wonder if it will
work
> with Activesync.

Yes and no: Activesync 3.8 supports OL 2K (my Dell Axim X5 and Audiovox
Maestro both came with 3.8/Outlook 2K,) but 3.8 will not sync with your
devices.

I don't remember if AS 4.x supports OL 2K or not- my WM5 HTC Wizard came
with OL 2K2 so I upgraded before trying. In either case, the point is
moot- Win98 won't sync with WinMo 5+ because of the differing versions of
Activesync.

On May 28, 9:57*am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@aNOoSPAMl.com> wrote:
> At 28 May 2009 02:17:42 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:

First, thanks Ron. I called up a Computer Store and asked them to
order me a BT Dongle that would work on 98SE. I told them either an
IOGear from your post or a Belkin from my research should do but I
don't know what they decided on yet.

> I have one of the earliest versions of the DLink DBT-120, it supports 98
> and up, but newer hardware revisions don't. *(D-Link has an annoying
> habit of reusing the same model number forever- the DBT-120 is the only
> number they've ever used for a USB BT dongle, and it's ben sold for at
> least 7 or 8 years in several hardware revisions, each with incompatible
> drivers!)

yuck.

> Ironically, I still have a Win98 notebook but have never used the dongle
> on it- the notebook lacks USB ports. *I used to sync my PDAs with it (and
> even use DUN) via the built-in IR port!

This laptop had a working IR port at one time. It also had a working
internal network card and modem but when it failed to boot I found out
from the Internet the only way I could get it to boot was to remove
the internal network card and modem.

The IR port failed a few days after that and now I have to disable the
driver for it or forever be hounded by error messages.

The HD was the first thing to fail but the 12 gig drive going to be
replaced even if it didn't fail.

> > BTW I dug out my copy of Outlook 2000 tonight and I wonder if it will
> work
> > with Activesync.
>
> Yes and no: Activesync 3.8 supports OL 2K (my Dell Axim X5 and Audiovox
> Maestro both came with 3.8/Outlook 2K,) but 3.8 will not sync with your
> devices. *
>
> I don't remember if AS 4.x supports OL 2K or not- my WM5 HTC Wizard came
> with OL 2K2 so I upgraded before trying. *In either case, the point is
> moot- Win98 won't sync with WinMo 5+ because of the differing versions of
> Activesync.

The laptop I am on right now has 4 different operating systems on it
and I'm thinking of adding DOS, Windows 98 First Edition and XP to
make it 7 but before I can put DOS on it I have to make the first
partition FAT16.

I have AS 4.2 on the 2000 Pro partition and currently I'm using that
partition with USB PAN for the internet. I'll have to install OL 2K
and see what happens myself.

BTW I ordered a PCMCIA card to give this computer WiFi. If that card
works with 98 I'll be able to run WMWiFiRouter on a PPC and get
Interent to it that way.

>> BT Dongle that would work on 98SE <<

Please report back on this project...

Back when BT started to catch on, it was a pretty firm rule that XP or
above was required for BT, similar to the fact that 98SE was required
for USB.

I've seen several BT products that list 98se support, but would like to
hear from a user.

Thanks in advance,
Beverly Howard

On May 30, 9:56*am, Beverly Howard <B...@NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:
> *>> BT Dongle that would work on 98SE <<
>
> Please report back on this project...
>
> Back when BT started to catch on, it was a pretty firm rule that XP or
> above was required for BT, similar to the fact that 98SE was required
> for USB.
>
> I've seen several BT products that list 98se support, but would like to
> hear from a user.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Beverly Howard

"Project?" Yes, project is a good term for putting 7 operating
systems on the same laptop. BTW my next project will be to put 7
operating systems on the same Tablet Computer.

While I can't tell you about the 98SE yet, I can tell you that the
following BT USB from Kensington is currently working with WINDOWS
2000 Professional.
http://us.kensington.com/html/14409.html

As a matter of fact, I am using a Bluetooth connection to a PPC for
this post and I'll let you know if I ever get BT to work with 98SE.

"Beverly Howard" <Bev@NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in message
news:%23dv$EbT4JHA.1528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> BT Dongle that would work on 98SE <<
>
> Please report back on this project...
>
> Back when BT started to catch on, it was a pretty firm rule that XP or
> above was required for BT, similar to the fact that 98SE was required
> for USB.
>
> I've seen several BT products that list 98se support, but would like to
> hear from a user.

When I ordered a BT dongle that works with 98SE I told them about Belkin and
Iogear and then I find out they ordered me a Linksys that they claim will
work with 98SE and I'm still waiting for it.

I mentioned earlier about trying things on a Tablet computer too. While the
BT software for the Tablet said it would work with Windows 98SE none of the
other drivers would load so that Tablet is limited to Windows 2000 and above
for other reasons.

"Beverly Howard" <Bev@NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in message
news:%23dv$EbT4JHA.1528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> BT Dongle that would work on 98SE <<
>
> Please report back on this project...
>
> Back when BT started to catch on, it was a pretty firm rule that XP or
> above was required for BT, similar to the fact that 98SE was required
> for USB.
>
> I've seen several BT products that list 98se support, but would like to
> hear from a user.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Beverly Howard

A while back I called up a computer store I do a lot of business with and
asked them to order a Belkin or IOGear Bluetooth Dongle since I've seen they
support Windows 98SE.

The guy at the computer store told me he ordered me a Linksys Bluetooth
Dongle but it turned out to be a Gemini Bluetooth Dongle with no software
whatsoever.

Before I bought it I had them plug it into a computer of theirs to see if it
loaded any drivers. It loaded software on their computer but when I tried
it on 98SE, ME. Windows 2000 or Vista and all I would get was an "Unknown
device."

The box says:

Software support
Windows 98/98SE/ME
Windows 2000
Windows XP
Windows Vista

But since it doesn't have any software I have no idea what the box means by
"Software support."

I got it to load on XP Pro but the only thing I could get to work with the
adapter was BT PAN even though the PPC I was connected to has BT DUN, BT FTP
and other Services.

So I could not get BT to work on 98SE but remember, I thought I was going to
get a Belkin, IOGear or Linksys BT adapter and ended up with a Gemini
adapter with no software.

"Beverly Howard" <Bev@NoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in message
news:%23dv$EbT4JHA.1528@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> BT Dongle that would work on 98SE <<
>
> Please report back on this project...
>
> Back when BT started to catch on, it was a pretty firm rule that XP or
> above was required for BT, similar to the fact that 98SE was required
> for USB.
>
> I've seen several BT products that list 98se support, but would like to
> hear from a user.

Ok, I found a BT dongle that works as advertised with 98SE but it cost
$39.99. It is a Linksys USBBT100 Bluetooth USB Adapter
http://www.frys.com/product/3916078?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

BTW I also found a BT dongle that works with 2000 and XP and only cost
$14.99
IOGEAR USB BLUETOOTH ADAPTOR
http://www.frys.com/product/5727672?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG