Greetings,

I would like to upgrade Windows CE 4.20 to Windows CE 5.0 on my iPAQ
h1940.
Any suggestion on a best practice to do it?
Any successful attempt from someone?

Thanks,
VTD

Sorry, you can't upgrade the WM2003 on your iPAQ to anything newer; not even
WM2003SE.

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"Vladislav" <vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote in message
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> Greetings,
>
> I would like to upgrade Windows CE 4.20 to Windows CE 5.0 on my iPAQ
> h1940.
> Any suggestion on a best practice to do it?
> Any successful attempt from someone?
>
> Thanks,
> VTD
>

Please, can you tell me why? Is it a legal problem? Or is it a
technical problem?
I don't know many things about Pocket PCs, but I think that there isn't
anything impossible in computer science...

Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
wrote:
> Sorry, you can't upgrade the WM2003 on your iPAQ to anything newer; not even
> WM2003SE.
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
> "Vladislav" <vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote in message
> news:1162279585.947768.18420@e64g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I would like to upgrade Windows CE 4.20 to Windows CE 5.0 on my iPAQ
> > h1940.
> > Any suggestion on a best practice to do it?
> > Any successful attempt from someone?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > VTD
> >

On 31 Oct 2006 12:51:13 -0800, "Vladislav"
<vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote:

>Please, can you tell me why? Is it a legal problem? Or is it a
>technical problem?
>I don't know many things about Pocket PCs, but I think that there isn't
>anything impossible in computer science...

For Windows CE, and platforms like Pocket PC based on it, upgrades are
entirely the responsibility of the OEMs (original equipment
manufacturer). For your iPAQ, that means HP. HP has chosen not to
provide upgrades, so none are available.

This is a combination of technical, legal, and economic issues. Partly
because of choices Microsoft made and partly because the hardware
_does_ vary, users really can't install upgrades on their own. I
assume HP's decision was economic.


>
>Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
>wrote:
>> Sorry, you can't upgrade the WM2003 on your iPAQ to anything newer; not even
>> WM2003SE.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> --
>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>
>>
>> "Vladislav" <vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162279585.947768.18420@e64g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > I would like to upgrade Windows CE 4.20 to Windows CE 5.0 on my iPAQ
>> > h1940.
>> > Any suggestion on a best practice to do it?
>> > Any successful attempt from someone?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > VTD
>> >

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Hello,

Take a look at the Windows Mobile Team blog entry on the subject here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/...06/477999.aspx

This may provide some reasons as to why.

The bottom line is it is up to the OEMs to offer an upgrade and
doesn't really have much to do with Microsoft.

Regards,


Clinton Fitch, MVP-Mobile Devices
Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
http://www.clintonfitch.com


On 31 Oct 2006 12:51:13 -0800, "Vladislav"
<vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote:

>Please, can you tell me why? Is it a legal problem? Or is it a
>technical problem?
>I don't know many things about Pocket PCs, but I think that there isn't
>anything impossible in computer science...
>
>Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
>wrote:
>> Sorry, you can't upgrade the WM2003 on your iPAQ to anything newer; not even
>> WM2003SE.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> --
>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>
>>
>> "Vladislav" <vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162279585.947768.18420@e64g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > I would like to upgrade Windows CE 4.20 to Windows CE 5.0 on my iPAQ
>> > h1940.
>> > Any suggestion on a best practice to do it?
>> > Any successful attempt from someone?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > VTD
>> >

Why can't you use an existing upgrade, let's say for the 2700 series, and
use it to upgrade 5000 series? It is a software upgrade right? regardless of
hardware.

<r_z_aret@pen_fact.com> wrote in message
news:3nlfk212msuuj3soni3siftu4m9bf02en7@4ax.com...
> On 31 Oct 2006 12:51:13 -0800, "Vladislav"
> <vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote:
>
>>Please, can you tell me why? Is it a legal problem? Or is it a
>>technical problem?
>>I don't know many things about Pocket PCs, but I think that there isn't
>>anything impossible in computer science...
>
> For Windows CE, and platforms like Pocket PC based on it, upgrades are
> entirely the responsibility of the OEMs (original equipment
> manufacturer). For your iPAQ, that means HP. HP has chosen not to
> provide upgrades, so none are available.
>
> This is a combination of technical, legal, and economic issues. Partly
> because of choices Microsoft made and partly because the hardware
> _does_ vary, users really can't install upgrades on their own. I
> assume HP's decision was economic.
>
>
>>
>>Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]
>>wrote:
>>> Sorry, you can't upgrade the WM2003 on your iPAQ to anything newer; not
>>> even
>>> WM2003SE.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>>> Devices
>>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Vladislav" <vladislav.tepes.al.dracului******.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1162279585.947768.18420@e64g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>>> > Greetings,
>>> >
>>> > I would like to upgrade Windows CE 4.20 to Windows CE 5.0 on my iPAQ
>>> > h1940.
>>> > Any suggestion on a best practice to do it?
>>> > Any successful attempt from someone?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > VTD
>>> >
>
> -----------------------------------------
> To reply to me, remove the underscores (_) from my email address (and
> please indicate which newsgroup and message).
>
> Robert E. Zaret, eMVP
> PenFact, Inc.
> 20 Park Plaza, Suite 478
> Boston, MA 02116
> www.penfact.com

At 03 Nov 2006 06:49:06 +0000 A. Y wrote:

> Why can't you use an existing upgrade, let's say for the 2700 series,
and
> use it to upgrade 5000 series? It is a software upgrade right?
regardless of
> hardware.

Keep in mind PPCs are "embedded devices" with limited resources. Unlike
a desktop OS such as WinXP which includes basic drivers for "standard"
hardware types like motherboards, chipsets, display types, drives, etc.
and comes packed on a pile of CDs, a Windows Mobile upgrade is a ROM
image specific to a particular device, containing only the drives and
dlls for the hardware in that particular unit- the bluetooth chip, Wi-Fi
chip, IR module, USB, display, buttons, touchscreen digitizer, CF and SD
slots, etc. may all be different than every other PPC- even other PPCs of
the same brand.

Unless the 5000 series was hardware identical to the 2700, it's extremely
unlikely that the upgrade would work anymore than your PC's floppy drive
would function with a CD-ROM's driver.

This is why each manufacturer has to "fine tune" the core OS for each
model, and the decision to ofer upgrades depends on a number of factors
such as "will enough model xxxx owners buy this upgrade to justify
wasting our time and energy creating it."

Personally, I believe the decision is usually based on whether new
hardware is being produced, and how similar that hardware is to prior
models. For example, when PPC 2002 was being replaced with PPC 2003,
Dell was selling a PPC called the Axim X5. They continued selling the X5
after PPC 2003 was released without changing models- the new X5s were
sold w/2003 installed. In that case, there was no reason not to sell an
upgrade for older PPC 2002-based X5s. The "work" of creating the upgrade
was already done to support the new 2003 version of the same hardware-
sales of upgrades were additional profit with little expense (the cost of
the CD, new manual and MS' license fees.) since the development costs of
the upgrade were already "spent" on the continued viability of the
existing model.

OTOH, if HP, for example, redesigns their entire PPC line near the end-of-
life of an OS, and the new devices bear little in common with the old
(different chipsets or displays, for example) the same effort Dell spent
customizing a new OS for an existing model in my example above would
result in far less of a "payoff" for HP, since the only "use" for the
upgrade would be the relatively small number people wishing to upgrade
that specific older model. No new equipment sales would help defray the
cost of the upgrade development since the new models needed a completely
different customization of the OS.


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