>From what I have seen older "soft" PDA screen types (like Cassiopeia
E-100/105 and NEC MobilePro 770, both ran Win CE 2.11) are more
sensitive than the newer "hard" PDA screens (like the iPAQs). This
makes a big difference for applications like drawing. The only drawback
is they had bad visibility in daylight. Do any current PDAs (or tablet
PCs) have comparable touch screens to the old soft screens?

"Mad Scientist Jr" <usenet_daughter******.com> wrote in message
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> >From what I have seen older "soft" PDA screen types (like Cassiopeia
> E-100/105 and NEC MobilePro 770, both ran Win CE 2.11) are more
> sensitive than the newer "hard" PDA screens (like the iPAQs). This
> makes a big difference for applications like drawing. The only drawback
> is they had bad visibility in daylight. Do any current PDAs (or tablet
> PCs) have comparable touch screens to the old soft screens?
>


Most of them do... you can adjust the screen pressure accordingly via the
registry. My PPC-6700 was too non-sensitive for my liking at first, but now
it feels more like the older ppcs of which I was fond. (Also it might be
good to note that I like incrasing the size of the vertical scroll for
easier pen interaction as well, but I digress).

If you re curious, here is the info pretty much as found. (For reference,
my initial value was 7332). Use at your own risk, etc. but I personally
like the results - for example on the ppc6700 the onscreen keyboard would
not always get the first hit until I did this:
*******************************
Minimize Pressure when Tapping the screen

Ever got used to tapping without screen protectors and suddenly you put
some screen protector and have a pecuilar feeling (some-what like tapping
harder than u normally do) due to the increase thickness of the protector?

Well i have gone to that and finally ive done some simple tweaks to my xda
mini.

I also figure out this could lessen normal wear and tear(scratching of
protectors/PDA screens) since lesser pressure is applied to Tap the screen

here's what i did..

thru the PHM registry editor(or any PPC registry editor)

go to..

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\Touch

or find 'Threshold'

Change the value of Pressure Threshold.(INCREASE value ONLY!!!)

what i did is set the value at 11880.

i tried doubling the default value. until i have reached my desired
setting.

now,its like tapping soflty without having a feeling that i have screen
protector. Also less stress on the stylus and screen and faster tapping.:-)

WARNING: Only INCREASE THE VALUE BUT NEVER THE DECREASE THE DEFAULT VALUE.

Lowering the value of Pressure Threshold means you need to apply more
pressure in tapping than you normally do.

ive tried this and when i soft reset, the screen won't react even if i
apply deep pressure in tapping so i needed to do a HARD Reset!!!

So don't ever think of lowering the value, JUST INCREASE but NEVER LOWER!!

"Mad Scientist Jr" <usenet_daughter******.com> wrote in
news:1162144912.933371.32150@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com:

> Do any current PDAs (or tablet
> PCs) have comparable touch screens to the old soft screens?
>
>

A little while ago, I was waiting for a call on Skype so I dropped the Dell
Axis X51v into my soft tshirt pocket on the way to the boy's room for
draining. About halfway down the hall, I started hearing this woman's
voice talking and looked around, thinking I'd gotten lucky because I live
alone! The Axis wasn't locked and had bumped my shirt, booting TCPMP and
clicking Play, which just happened to be looking at KPIG's 128Kbps MP3
stream from California. The woman was the DJ announcing some craziness
KPIG is famous for.

Darn.....I wasn't lucky, after all....(snif)

Is that sensitive enough touchscreen for ya?....(c;

Mad Scientist Jr wrote:
>> From what I have seen older "soft" PDA screen types (like Cassiopeia
> E-100/105 and NEC MobilePro 770, both ran Win CE 2.11) are more
> sensitive than the newer "hard" PDA screens (like the iPAQs). This
> makes a big difference for applications like drawing. The only
> drawback is they had bad visibility in daylight. Do any current PDAs
> (or tablet PCs) have comparable touch screens to the old soft screens?

I didn't know there was this distinction, but my Pocket Loox N500, bought
new this Summer and running WM5.0, seems to have a soft overlay just in
front of the solid surface, and certainly is difficult to read in sunlight.
Don't know how the sensivity compares because haven't tried others.

Mike.
--

So, if this value does not exist (hX2750), is it
OK to create it?

Anyone tried?

I really don't have the time to mess with a hard
reset/restore right now...



"xTenn" <xTennRemoveThisPart@tds.net> wrote in message
news:%23CqVin4%23GHA.1128@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mad Scientist Jr" <usenet_daughter******.com> wrote in message
> news:1162144912.933371.32150@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > >From what I have seen older "soft" PDA screen types (like Cassiopeia
> > E-100/105 and NEC MobilePro 770, both ran Win CE 2.11) are more
> > sensitive than the newer "hard" PDA screens (like the iPAQs). This
> > makes a big difference for applications like drawing. The only drawback
> > is they had bad visibility in daylight. Do any current PDAs (or tablet
> > PCs) have comparable touch screens to the old soft screens?
> >
>
>
> Most of them do... you can adjust the screen pressure accordingly via the
> registry. My PPC-6700 was too non-sensitive for my liking at first, but
now
> it feels more like the older ppcs of which I was fond. (Also it might be
> good to note that I like incrasing the size of the vertical scroll for
> easier pen interaction as well, but I digress).
>
> If you re curious, here is the info pretty much as found. (For reference,
> my initial value was 7332). Use at your own risk, etc. but I personally
> like the results - for example on the ppc6700 the onscreen keyboard would
> not always get the first hit until I did this:
> *******************************
> Minimize Pressure when Tapping the screen
>
> Ever got used to tapping without screen protectors and suddenly you put
> some screen protector and have a pecuilar feeling (some-what like tapping
> harder than u normally do) due to the increase thickness of the protector?
>
> Well i have gone to that and finally ive done some simple tweaks to my
xda
> mini.
>
> I also figure out this could lessen normal wear and tear(scratching of
> protectors/PDA screens) since lesser pressure is applied to Tap the screen
>
> here's what i did..
>
> thru the PHM registry editor(or any PPC registry editor)
>
> go to..
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\Touch
>
> or find 'Threshold'
>
> Change the value of Pressure Threshold.(INCREASE value ONLY!!!)
>
> what i did is set the value at 11880.
>
> i tried doubling the default value. until i have reached my desired
> setting.
>
> now,its like tapping soflty without having a feeling that i have screen
> protector. Also less stress on the stylus and screen and faster
tapping.:-)
>
> WARNING: Only INCREASE THE VALUE BUT NEVER THE DECREASE THE DEFAULT
VALUE.
>
> Lowering the value of Pressure Threshold means you need to apply more
> pressure in tapping than you normally do.
>
> ive tried this and when i soft reset, the screen won't react even if i
> apply deep pressure in tapping so i needed to do a HARD Reset!!!
>
> So don't ever think of lowering the value, JUST INCREASE but NEVER
LOWER!!
>
>
>
>
>

"V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:u4dmt$7%23GHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> So, if this value does not exist (hX2750), is it
> OK to create it?
>


Does the value itself not exist, or the key missing? That is, do you not
have a threshold key at all? It is possible that some digitizers are not
adjustable, and the inclusion of a key/value pair would perhaps be of no
consequence. As the quote shows, do not drop the value, and if you were so
inclined to try creating a key I would think that a large initial value is
much preferrable over a small one (the result is that you would put the
sensitivity out of range, forcing a hard reset and/or the use of a keyboard
to restore touch operation).

So...

>I really don't have the time to mess with a hard
>reset/restore right now...

That sums it up. Without the key in place to start with (and having an
initial value as it applies to said hardware ) I would put experimentation
in the "hard reset" category. ;)

OK, xT.

I'll just live without for now.

BTW, my e750 doesn't have it either...

I may try it sometime by adding the key, but
to a PPC I don't need to use every day.

"xTenn" <xTennRemoveThisPart@tds.net> wrote in message
news:ugB4oM8%23GHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "V Green" <vanceg@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:u4dmt$7%23GHA.2340@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> > So, if this value does not exist (hX2750), is it
> > OK to create it?
> >
>
>
> Does the value itself not exist, or the key missing? That is, do you not
> have a threshold key at all? It is possible that some digitizers are not
> adjustable, and the inclusion of a key/value pair would perhaps be of no
> consequence. As the quote shows, do not drop the value, and if you were
so
> inclined to try creating a key I would think that a large initial value is
> much preferrable over a small one (the result is that you would put the
> sensitivity out of range, forcing a hard reset and/or the use of a
keyboard
> to restore touch operation).
>
> So...
>
> >I really don't have the time to mess with a hard
> >reset/restore right now...
>
> That sums it up. Without the key in place to start with (and having an
> initial value as it applies to said hardware ) I would put experimentation
> in the "hard reset" category. ;)
>
>
>
>

At 29 Oct 2006 20:12:44 -0700 V Green wrote:
> OK, xT.
>
> I'll just live without for now.
>
> BTW, my e750 doesn't have it either...

Mine (An HTC Wizard) is in a slightly different location-
HKLM/Drivers/Touchpanel


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