This may sound too elementary but I'd appreciate some guidance. I know I
can get a Word or PDF file from my PC into the phone by e-mailing it and
then saving it in the phone. Pretty cumbersome, expecially when I am using
the phone itself as a modem. Is there a way to do this directly? I have
been using Wireless Sync, not Active Sync. Is there a way to have the phone
show up as a drive on my computer when connected? If not, is Active Sync
the only way? If I do Active Sync will it interfere with Wireless Sync?
Thanks!

--

Joe McGuire

"Joe McGuire" <mcguirejw@REMOVECAPScomcast.net> wrote:

>This may sound too elementary but I'd appreciate some guidance. I know I
>can get a Word or PDF file from my PC into the phone by e-mailing it and
>then saving it in the phone. Pretty cumbersome, expecially when I am using
>the phone itself as a modem. Is there a way to do this directly? I have
>been using Wireless Sync, not Active Sync. Is there a way to have the phone
>show up as a drive on my computer when connected? If not, is Active Sync
>the only way? If I do Active Sync will it interfere with Wireless Sync?
>Thanks!

In ActiveSync, just enable "file sync" with the PC. By wireless
sync, do you mean with Exchange? No, ActiveSync will see those
settings and leave them alone.

There are several ways you can get files to your device.

1) sync via ActiveSync (or WM Device Center on Vista)
2) move a memory card between device and PC
3) IR or BT Beam the file if PC and device support it.
4) email.

Option #1 is the most hassle free as it automatically syncs any
file(s) you desire just by docking/syncing. The other methods are
more manual or one file at a time.
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At 04 Jan 2009 15:31:19 -0500 Joe McGuire wrote:
> This may sound too elementary but I'd appreciate some guidance. I know
I
> can get a Word or PDF file from my PC into the phone by e-mailing it
and
> then saving it in the phone. Pretty cumbersome, expecially when I am
using
> the phone itself as a modem. Is there a way to do this directly? I
have
> been using Wireless Sync, not Active Sync. Is there a way to have the
phone
> show up as a drive on my computer when connected? If not, is Active
Sync
> the only way? If I do Active Sync will it interfere with Wireless
Sync?


Windows Mobile doesn't natively support USB drive mode, so you'd have to
use Activesync, which shouldn't interfere with Verizon's Wireless Sync.

Alternatively, you could Google for a program called WM5torage (yes- it's
the number "5" not an "S"- it appeared when WM5 did.) It's a program you
install on the device and allows the device's storage card to simulate a
flash drive.

Personally, I just generally browse my PC's shared folder over WiFi, and
grab what I need with the device's File Explorer. In File Explorer, tap
Menu / Open and enter the PC's network name (i.e. \\MyPC).

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:46:37 -0500, "Ed Hansberry, MS-MVP/Mobile
Devices" <spamfree-silvernino********.spambegone.com> wrote:

>"Joe McGuire" <mcguirejw@REMOVECAPScomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>This may sound too elementary but I'd appreciate some guidance. I know I
>>can get a Word or PDF file from my PC into the phone by e-mailing it and
>>then saving it in the phone. Pretty cumbersome, expecially when I am using
>>the phone itself as a modem. Is there a way to do this directly? I have
>>been using Wireless Sync, not Active Sync. Is there a way to have the phone
>>show up as a drive on my computer when connected? If not, is Active Sync
>>the only way? If I do Active Sync will it interfere with Wireless Sync?
>>Thanks!
>
>In ActiveSync, just enable "file sync" with the PC. By wireless
>sync, do you mean with Exchange? No, ActiveSync will see those
>settings and leave them alone.
>
>There are several ways you can get files to your device.
>
>1) sync via ActiveSync (or WM Device Center on Vista)
>2) move a memory card between device and PC
>3) IR or BT Beam the file if PC and device support it.
>4) email.

5) drag and drop from location on PC to location on device via
"ActiveSync" Window. This is easier than "file sync" for one-time
transfers, and does not require enabling "file sync".

>
>Option #1 is the most hassle free as it automatically syncs any
>file(s) you desire just by docking/syncing. The other methods are
>more manual or one file at a time.

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Thanks, Todd. This is embarassing but I have to ask, but what does "my PC's
shared folder " mean? And if I can find or create such a folder, what does
it mean to "browse it over WiFi?" I have a wireless router at home for
sharing an internet connection and a printer. And I know the xv6800 is
supposed to have WiFi although I have never had any reason to use it (If
there is no free WiFi wherever I am travelling I use the phone's Modem Link
to connect my laptop to the internet).

I have been unable to get ActiveSync to work. Meanwhile, the WM5 software
sounds interesting but a bit scary, at least to somebody as unsophisticated
as I. The explanation by Igor in fractured English is not reassuring. Do
you have any experience with this? If it would reliably make the phone (or
at least the card) accessible like a flash drive that would be pretty darned
good. I assume that the device has access to the card when not connected
rto a PC.

Background FWIW: Since I got this phone last February I have used Wireless
Synch. Our firm used a POP3 e-mail server which sent e-mail straight to
everybody's Blackberry. I chose the xv6800 instead. (A long story based on
some mistaken assumptions) So e-mail came to my desktop PC running Outlook
2003; and some software on it (I can't remember if it was on a CD or if I
downloaded it from Verizon) pushed the e-mail (and calendar items) out to
the phone. I never actually connected the phone to the PC.

--

Joe McGuire
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:QNh8l.35451$716.6254@newsfe13.iad...
> At 04 Jan 2009 15:31:19 -0500 Joe McGuire wrote:
>> This may sound too elementary but I'd appreciate some guidance. I know
> I
>> can get a Word or PDF file from my PC into the phone by e-mailing it
> and
>> then saving it in the phone. Pretty cumbersome, expecially when I am
> using
>> the phone itself as a modem. Is there a way to do this directly? I
> have
>> been using Wireless Sync, not Active Sync. Is there a way to have the
> phone
>> show up as a drive on my computer when connected? If not, is Active
> Sync
>> the only way? If I do Active Sync will it interfere with Wireless
> Sync?
>
>
> Windows Mobile doesn't natively support USB drive mode, so you'd have to
> use Activesync, which shouldn't interfere with Verizon's Wireless Sync.
>
> Alternatively, you could Google for a program called WM5torage (yes- it's
> the number "5" not an "S"- it appeared when WM5 did.) It's a program you
> install on the device and allows the device's storage card to simulate a
> flash drive.
>
> Personally, I just generally browse my PC's shared folder over WiFi, and
> grab what I need with the device's File Explorer. In File Explorer, tap
> Menu / Open and enter the PC's network name (i.e. \\MyPC).
>
>

"Joe McGuire" <mcguirejw@REMOVECAPScomcast.net> wrote in message
news:uv4%23MsOcJHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, Todd. This is embarassing but I have to ask, but what does "my
> PC's shared folder " mean?

When you enable file sharing on a networked PC, a folder called "SharedDocs"
(XP) or "Public" (Vista) is created. These folders can be viewed by anyone
accessing your network. You could, for example, drag your media library to
that folder, so it could be played by any PC on your network by browsing to
that folder in "My Network" (XP) or "Network" (Vista) in File Explorer.

Alternatively, you can create hidden shared folders/drives (by naming them
with a "$" at the end- i.e. call the C: drive "MyCDrive$" or your My
Documents folder "MyDocs$") so they;d be harder to mess with if anyone finds
access your WiFi. Right click on the drive leter/folder you'd like to set
up shared access for, click properties. and select the "sharing" tab and
take from there. The "My Music" and "My Videos" folders on my main PC are
shared as "Music$" and "Video$" so I can easily reach them from any PC or
WinMo device on my network so I can play them from any PC or Winmo device.
(Playing them on a WinMo device without copying them first requires a
"network aware" 3rd-party media player like TCPMP- the built-in Windows
Media Player won't do it.)


> And if I can find or create such a folder, what does it mean to "browse it
> over WiFi?" I have a wireless router at home for sharing an internet
> connection and a printer. And I know the xv6800 is supposed to have WiFi
> although I have never had any reason to use it (If there is no free WiFi
> wherever I am travelling I use the phone's Modem Link to connect my laptop
> to the internet).

Find the name of your PC (selected when you set up the network, otherwise
right click "My Computer" (XP) or "Computer" (Vista) in File Explorer on the
PC, select "Properties" and find the computer name), then on the 6800, turn
WiFi on, open File Explorer, tap "Menu" and select "Open Path"- then type
\\(Computer_Name\Shared_Drive_Name and tap Ok. The 6800 will churn the
"spinning wheel of delay" for a few seconds then display the contents of the
folder. Now you can find any file, tap/hold and select "copy," switch to a
local folder (tap the folder name display on the upper left above the files
to get a quick shortcut to the main storage memory, external storage card,
and current network share ) on the 6800 and paste it there.


> I have been unable to get ActiveSync to work.

On the device, go to Start / Settings / Connections(Tab) / USB-to-PC and
uncheck "Enable Advanced Network Functionality" then try again. That might
get Activesync to work.

> Meanwhile, the WM5 software sounds interesting but a bit scary, at least
> to somebody as unsophisticated
> as I. The explanation by Igor in fractured English is not reassuring.
> Do you have any experience with this? If it would reliably make the phone
> (or at least the card) accessible like a flash drive that would be pretty
> darned good. I assume that the device has access to the card when not
> connected rto a PC.

I've never messed with it personally, since I have a USB card reader for my
digital cameras, and use it to copy large files (i.e. movies) to my WinMo
device's storage card. That's much faster than WiFi transfer. I typically
use WiFi or Activesync for smaller files.

> Background FWIW: Since I got this phone last February I have used Wireless
> Synch. Our firm used a POP3 e-mail server which sent e-mail straight to
> everybody's Blackberry. I chose the xv6800 instead. (A long story based
> on some mistaken assumptions) So e-mail came to my desktop PC running
> Outlook 2003; and some software on it (I can't remember if it was on a CD
> or if I downloaded it from Verizon) pushed the e-mail (and calendar items)
> out to the phone. I never actually connected the phone to the PC.


IMO, that's one of the great advantages of the Winmo platform, compared to
something like an iPhone. WinMo devices are small autonomous computers and
can interact with other PCs as an option, but it isn't a requirement. My
wife's iPhone can't download or store files from the 'net (unless it's an
app or media file from Apple's iTunes store), and can't even delete a stored
media file unless you hook it to a computer running iTunes. I very rarely
cradle my device to a PC- my PIM data and email syncs wirelessly, and most
file transfers are accomplished as I described above. To put it quickly and
bluntly, WinMo devices are small computers, most other mobile devices are
peripherals...

I finally got A/S to work. Turns out there is a setting in Wireless Sync
that by default disables A/S. That took 2 calls to Verizon Tech Support,
not to mention a few hours of my own efforts. No mention of this minor
detail in the reams of Microsoft papers on A/S issues. Brutal experience
actually running A/S. Woefully incomplete or misleading information
resulting in disaster. Recounted on a separate post ("Active Sync Out of
Control".) Works fine now, although I no longer have any of my 500+
contacts on the phone. Wags might suggest this is typical Microsoft work:
Some real usefulness but with downsides like a kick in the shins. I may
soon have an opportunity to reconsider this phone vs. blackberry, palm treo
etc.
--

Joe McGuire
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
news:OPh99gPcJHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Joe McGuire" <mcguirejw@REMOVECAPScomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uv4%23MsOcJHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks, Todd. This is embarassing but I have to ask, but what does "my
>> PC's shared folder " mean?
>
> When you enable file sharing on a networked PC, a folder called
> "SharedDocs" (XP) or "Public" (Vista) is created. These folders can be
> viewed by anyone accessing your network. You could, for example, drag
> your media library to that folder, so it could be played by any PC on your
> network by browsing to that folder in "My Network" (XP) or "Network"
> (Vista) in File Explorer.
>
> Alternatively, you can create hidden shared folders/drives (by naming them
> with a "$" at the end- i.e. call the C: drive "MyCDrive$" or your My
> Documents folder "MyDocs$") so they;d be harder to mess with if anyone
> finds access your WiFi. Right click on the drive leter/folder you'd like
> to set up shared access for, click properties. and select the "sharing"
> tab and take from there. The "My Music" and "My Videos" folders on my
> main PC are shared as "Music$" and "Video$" so I can easily reach them
> from any PC or WinMo device on my network so I can play them from any PC
> or Winmo device. (Playing them on a WinMo device without copying them
> first requires a "network aware" 3rd-party media player like TCPMP- the
> built-in Windows Media Player won't do it.)
>
>
>> And if I can find or create such a folder, what does it mean to "browse
>> it over WiFi?" I have a wireless router at home for sharing an internet
>> connection and a printer. And I know the xv6800 is supposed to have WiFi
>> although I have never had any reason to use it (If there is no free WiFi
>> wherever I am travelling I use the phone's Modem Link to connect my
>> laptop to the internet).
>
> Find the name of your PC (selected when you set up the network, otherwise
> right click "My Computer" (XP) or "Computer" (Vista) in File Explorer on
> the PC, select "Properties" and find the computer name), then on the 6800,
> turn WiFi on, open File Explorer, tap "Menu" and select "Open Path"- then
> type \\(Computer_Name\Shared_Drive_Name and tap Ok. The 6800 will churn
> the "spinning wheel of delay" for a few seconds then display the contents
> of the folder. Now you can find any file, tap/hold and select "copy,"
> switch to a local folder (tap the folder name display on the upper left
> above the files to get a quick shortcut to the main storage memory,
> external storage card, and current network share ) on the 6800 and paste
> it there.
>
>
>> I have been unable to get ActiveSync to work.
>
> On the device, go to Start / Settings / Connections(Tab) / USB-to-PC and
> uncheck "Enable Advanced Network Functionality" then try again. That
> might get Activesync to work.
>
>> Meanwhile, the WM5 software sounds interesting but a bit scary, at least
>> to somebody as unsophisticated
>> as I. The explanation by Igor in fractured English is not reassuring. Do
>> you have any experience with this? If it would reliably make the phone
>> (or at least the card) accessible like a flash drive that would be pretty
>> darned good. I assume that the device has access to the card when not
>> connected rto a PC.
>
> I've never messed with it personally, since I have a USB card reader for
> my digital cameras, and use it to copy large files (i.e. movies) to my
> WinMo device's storage card. That's much faster than WiFi transfer. I
> typically use WiFi or Activesync for smaller files.
>
>> Background FWIW: Since I got this phone last February I have used
>> Wireless Synch. Our firm used a POP3 e-mail server which sent e-mail
>> straight to everybody's Blackberry. I chose the xv6800 instead. (A long
>> story based on some mistaken assumptions) So e-mail came to my desktop
>> PC running Outlook 2003; and some software on it (I can't remember if it
>> was on a CD or if I downloaded it from Verizon) pushed the e-mail (and
>> calendar items) out to the phone. I never actually connected the phone
>> to the PC.
>
>
> IMO, that's one of the great advantages of the Winmo platform, compared to
> something like an iPhone. WinMo devices are small autonomous computers
> and can interact with other PCs as an option, but it isn't a requirement.
> My wife's iPhone can't download or store files from the 'net (unless it's
> an app or media file from Apple's iTunes store), and can't even delete a
> stored media file unless you hook it to a computer running iTunes. I very
> rarely cradle my device to a PC- my PIM data and email syncs wirelessly,
> and most file transfers are accomplished as I described above. To put it
> quickly and bluntly, WinMo devices are small computers, most other mobile
> devices are peripherals...
>
>
>