Cracked mine - not happy.

Managed to order a new one but it wasnt that cheap (£25). Cheaper than
sending it back to Navman though.

Just wondered - how easy (or hard) is it going to be to fit?

I think I've bought a complete screen (LCD and touch sensitive top
screen). Can I just change the LCD bit (top screen is OK but LCD is
'inking')?

If so, maybe I could sell the spare touch sensitive screen on ebay to
someone who just needs this bit ?

On 2008-03-04 09:38:46 +0000, "BertieBigBollox******.com"
<BertieBigBollox******.com> said:

> Cracked mine - not happy.
>
> Managed to order a new one but it wasnt that cheap (£25). Cheaper than
> sending it back to Navman though.
>
> Just wondered - how easy (or hard) is it going to be to fit?
>
> I think I've bought a complete screen (LCD and touch sensitive top
> screen). Can I just change the LCD bit (top screen is OK but LCD is
> 'inking')?
>
> If so, maybe I could sell the spare touch sensitive screen on ebay to
> someone who just needs this bit ?

You should NOT separate the touch sensitive layer from the LCD. How
difficult it will be to replace depends on how Navman have designed the
unit. How does the LCD/Touch Screen assembly connect to the main board?
--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

On Mar 4, 9:42*am, Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com
<dar...@pocketgpsworld.com> wrote:
> On 2008-03-04 09:38:46 +0000, "BertieBigBol...******.com"
> <BertieBigBol...******.com> said:
>
> > Cracked mine - not happy.
>
> > Managed to order a new one but it wasnt that cheap (£25). Cheaper than
> > sending it back to Navman though.
>
> > Just wondered - how easy (or hard) is it going to be to fit?
>
> > I think I've bought a complete screen (LCD and touch sensitive top
> > screen). Can I just change the LCD bit (top screen is OK but LCD is
> > 'inking')?
>
> > If so, maybe I could sell the spare touch sensitive screen on ebay to
> > someone who just needs this bit ?
>
> You should NOT separate the touch sensitive layer from the LCD. *How
> difficult it will be to replace depends on how Navman have designed the
> unit. *How does the LCD/Touch Screen assembly connect to the main board?
> --

Darren,

OK. I'll bear that in mind.

No idea how the LCD connects to the main board - I havent taken it
apart yet !!!! It was advertised as 'plug in and play' so hopefully
it'll be straighforward...

On 2008-03-04 10:14:26 +0000, "BertieBigBollox******.com"
<BertieBigBollox******.com> said:

> OK. I'll bear that in mind.
>
> No idea how the LCD connects to the main board - I havent taken it
> apart yet !!!! It was advertised as 'plug in and play' so hopefully
> it'll be straighforward...

Be sure to take some tear down and re-assembly pictures :) Could be
useful for others?

--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
> On 2008-03-04 09:38:46 +0000, "BertieBigBollox******.com"
> <BertieBigBollox******.com> said:
>
>> Cracked mine - not happy.
>>
>> Managed to order a new one but it wasnt that cheap (£25). Cheaper than
>> sending it back to Navman though.
>>
>> Just wondered - how easy (or hard) is it going to be to fit?
>>
>> I think I've bought a complete screen (LCD and touch sensitive top
>> screen). Can I just change the LCD bit (top screen is OK but LCD is
>> 'inking')?
>>
>> If so, maybe I could sell the spare touch sensitive screen on ebay to
>> someone who just needs this bit ?
>
> You should NOT separate the touch sensitive layer from the LCD. How

Why not?

> difficult it will be to replace depends on how Navman have designed the
> unit. How does the LCD/Touch Screen assembly connect to the main board?

I have replaced screens on two Palm devices, a Palm IIIxe, and
a Palm T|X. Admittedly they are not Navman GPS units but they
both have LCD screens with touch screen digitizers on top. On
the Palm devices, the digitizer (touch screen) is assembled to
the LCD screen with double-sided sticky tape and the two units
connect to the main PCB with separate flex circuits. I would
expect the Navman GPS uses a similar scheme. It was not
difficult to separate and join the two panels. Cleanliness is
obviously a good thing, a lint-free microfiber cleaning cloth
and a static-free environment (an ion generator is a plus) is
worth striving for.

On 2008-03-04 11:52:44 +0000, Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> said:

> Why not?

> Cleanliness is
> obviously a good thing, a lint-free microfiber cleaning cloth
> and a static-free environment (an ion generator is a plus) is
> worth striving for.

Well there's a good reason for starters. The risk of dust and other
debris between the layers isdifficult to avoid. Perhaps I should have
qualified that it was inadvisable to separate the two rather than a
definitive 'don't do it'?

Therefore it would make sense to replace the LCD and Touch screen layer
as a single unit especially as the Op has both replecemnt parts in a
single unit already?

--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums

I think what I'll do is replace the LCD/digitiser screen complete with
what I get.

Then if I can separate the old intact digitiser screen from the
knackered LCD bit, then maybe someone on ebay would be interested in
just this if they want.

Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
> On 2008-03-04 11:52:44 +0000, Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> said:
>
>> Why not?
>
>
>> Cleanliness is
>> obviously a good thing, a lint-free microfiber cleaning cloth
>> and a static-free environment (an ion generator is a plus) is
>> worth striving for.
>
>
> Well there's a good reason for starters. The risk of dust and other
> debris between the layers isdifficult to avoid. Perhaps I should have
> qualified that it was inadvisable to separate the two rather than a
> definitive 'don't do it'?
>
> Therefore it would make sense to replace the LCD and Touch screen layer
> as a single unit especially as the Op has both replecemnt parts in a
> single unit already?

I'm not disagreeing with that, I was just pointing out that it is possible
for a layman to separate the two without ruining them. I certainly would
consider selling the good digitizer or screen separately if the original
poster doesn't want to keep it as a spare. I certainly wouldn't buy a
complete screen and digitizer assembly if all I needed to replace was the
one component, it's not cost effective for me, as I'd rather not go to the
trouble of having to sell the non-broken component.

As I type mine is in bits on the desk.
The power socket decided to separate from the PCB.
Had repaired it several times before CRAP DESIGN.
Five minutes to pull apart, same to put it back together.
If you get stuck email me for photos.
The LCD screen uplugs from the PCB very easily, not so easy on reassembly,
flexi contact strip is difficult to reinsert.
I used tweezers with great care.
Best of Luck
Martin C

"Martin C" <martin.carpenter2006@nospam.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fqjsrc$6mk$1@aioe.org...
> As I type mine is in bits on the desk.
> The power socket decided to separate from the PCB.
> Had repaired it several times before CRAP DESIGN.
> Five minutes to pull apart, same to put it back together.
> If you get stuck email me for photos.
> The LCD screen uplugs from the PCB very easily, not so easy on reassembly,
> flexi contact strip is difficult to reinsert.
> I used tweezers with great care.
> Best of Luck
> Martin C
Oh photos! yes please, I have to fix my dodgy power socket, and would like
to know what I am letting myself in for, It works intermittently, The
problem is not when in the car or charging but when plugged into the pc.

Des

>
> I'm not disagreeing with that, I was just pointing out that it is possible
> for a layman to separate the two without ruining them. *I certainly would
> consider selling the good digitizer or screen separately if the original
> poster doesn't want to keep it as a spare. *I certainly wouldn't buy a
> complete screen and digitizer assembly if all I needed to replace was the
> one component, it's not cost effective for me, as I'd rather not go to the
> trouble of having to sell the non-broken component.- Hide quoted text -
>

Couldnt get the LCD on its own - unless you know of anywhere? (My
order hasnt turned up yet so I could cancel !!!)

For reference, I got the LCD/digitizer combined for £25 inc postage.

On Mar 4, 3:10*pm, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> Darren Griffin - PocketGPSWorld.Com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 2008-03-04 11:52:44 +0000, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> said:
>
> >> Why not?
>
> >> Cleanliness is
> >> obviously a good thing, a lint-free microfiber cleaning cloth
> >> and a static-free environment (an ion generator is a plus) is
> >> worth striving for.
>
> > Well there's a good reason for starters. *The risk of dust and other
> > debris between the layers isdifficult to avoid. Perhaps I should have
> > qualified that it was inadvisable to separate the two rather than a
> > definitive 'don't do it'?
>
> > Therefore it would make sense to replace the LCD and Touch screen layer
> > as a single unit especially as the Op has both replecemnt parts in a
> > single unit already?
>
> I'm not disagreeing with that, I was just pointing out that it is possible
> for a layman to separate the two without ruining them. *I certainly would
> consider selling the good digitizer or screen separately if the original
> poster doesn't want to keep it as a spare. *I certainly wouldn't buy a
> complete screen and digitizer assembly if all I needed to replace was the
> one component, it's not cost effective for me, as I'd rather not go to the
> trouble of having to sell the non-broken component.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

For information, the touch screen and lcd are all one unit. Not
possible to separate - I tried !!!!

On Mar 4, 6:21*pm, "Dieseldes" <desm...@orange.net> wrote:
> "Martin C" <martin.carpenter2...@nospam.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:fqjsrc$6mk$1@aioe.org...> As I type mine is in bits on the desk.
> > The power socket decided to separate from the PCB.
> > Had repaired it several times before CRAP DESIGN.
> > Five minutes to pull apart, same to put it back together.
> > If you get stuck email me for photos.
> > The LCD screen uplugs from the PCB very easily, not so easy on reassembly,
> > flexi contact strip is difficult to reinsert.
> > I used tweezers with great care.
> > Best of Luck
> > Martin C
>
> Oh photos! yes please, I have to fix my dodgy power socket, and would like
> to know what I am letting myself in for, It works intermittently, The
> problem is not when in the car or charging but when plugged *into the pc..
>
> Des

Des,

Sorry mate. Forgot to do the photos.

Pretty easy to get apart. Two screws under the GPS flap. The other two
just remove the key caps to access the,. Normal small phillips
screwdriver.

Only thing then is its still clipped together so you need to slide
something down the gap and give it a tug.

The LCD was dead easy to replace - its just resting there and you pull
the cable out. Getting the new ribbon cable back in is a bit fiddly
mind.

As for the charger, sorry cant help you. It did look a bit more
connected in mind.

<BertieBigBollox******.com> wrote in message
news:7907969a-1f15-4c3e-93e4-1fc35b2af198@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 4, 6:21 pm, "Dieseldes" <desm...@orange.net> wrote:
> "Martin C" <martin.carpenter2...@nospam.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:fqjsrc$6mk$1@aioe.org...> As I type mine is in bits on the desk.
> > The power socket decided to separate from the PCB.
> > Had repaired it several times before CRAP DESIGN.
> > Five minutes to pull apart, same to put it back together.
> > If you get stuck email me for photos.
> > The LCD screen uplugs from the PCB very easily, not so easy on
> > reassembly,
> > flexi contact strip is difficult to reinsert.
> > I used tweezers with great care.
> > Best of Luck
> > Martin C
>
> Oh photos! yes please, I have to fix my dodgy power socket, and would like
> to know what I am letting myself in for, It works intermittently, The
> problem is not when in the car or charging but when plugged into the pc.
>
> Des

Des,

Sorry mate. Forgot to do the photos.

Pretty easy to get apart. Two screws under the GPS flap. The other two
just remove the key caps to access the,. Normal small phillips
screwdriver.

Only thing then is its still clipped together so you need to slide
something down the gap and give it a tug.

The LCD was dead easy to replace - its just resting there and you pull
the cable out. Getting the new ribbon cable back in is a bit fiddly
mind.

As for the charger, sorry cant help you. It did look a bit more
connected in mind.

Thanks for that,isn't it always the clips that cause the problems!, one of
these days I will attack it,
It works OK as a gps both mains and car chargers work it's only when I
connect it to the USB port does it not want to connect properly. sitting it
on a book so the plug goes in at an angle usually works....

Des

On Mar 18, 11:50*am, "Dieseldes" <desm...@orange.net> wrote:
> <BertieBigBol...******.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7907969a-1f15-4c3e-93e4-1fc35b2af198@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 4, 6:21 pm, "Dieseldes" <desm...@orange.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Martin C" <martin.carpenter2...@nospam.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> >news:fqjsrc$6mk$1@aioe.org...> As I type mine is in bits on the desk.
> > > The power socket decided to separate from the PCB.
> > > Had repaired it several times before CRAP DESIGN.
> > > Five minutes to pull apart, same to put it back together.
> > > If you get stuck email me for photos.
> > > The LCD screen uplugs from the PCB very easily, not so easy on
> > > reassembly,
> > > flexi contact strip is difficult to reinsert.
> > > I used tweezers with great care.
> > > Best of Luck
> > > Martin C
>
> > Oh photos! yes please, I have to fix my dodgy power socket, and would like
> > to know what I am letting myself in for, It works intermittently, The
> > problem is not when in the car or charging but when plugged into the pc.
>
> > Des
>
> Des,
>
> Sorry mate. Forgot to do the photos.
>
> Pretty easy to get apart. Two screws under the GPS flap. The other two
> just remove the key caps to access the,. Normal small phillips
> screwdriver.
>
> Only thing then is its still clipped together so you need to slide
> something down the gap and give it a tug.
>
> The LCD was dead easy to replace - its just resting there and you pull
> the cable out. Getting the new ribbon cable back in is a bit fiddly
> mind.
>
> As for the charger, sorry cant help you. It did look a bit more
> connected in mind.
>
> Thanks for that,isn't it always the clips that cause the problems!, one of
> these days I will attack it,
> It works OK as a gps both mains and car chargers work it's only when I
> connect it to the USB port does it not want to connect properly. *sitting it
> on a book so the plug goes in at an angle usually works....
>
> Des- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeh. My charger plug is a bit like that. I think its a bit of a known
problem with them, isnt it?