I know that Windows Mobile device centre does not sync with Windows Vista
Calendar or contacts and it really irks me.

This irks me even more when I see that the Nokia phone software DOES allow
synching with Vista calendar and contacts. And actually it works very well
indeed.

You may have seen from previous posts that I have been having issues with my
windows mobile Fujitsu Loox. I did have a Nokia N95 but was not keen on it
so sold it to a kind gentleman in this group. So anyway I needed a phone
that was cheap and was more reliable for calls than the Fujitsu so I picked
up the Nokia 6300 very cheap from O2.

Now if Nokia can implement synching with vista calendar and contacts, why
can't Microsoft? It is their software after all. I know they say it will
be there in the future, but the future is infinite.

At 13 Dec 2007 18:00:02 +0000 Beck wrote:
> I know that Windows Mobile device centre does not sync with Windows
> Vista Calendar or contacts and it really irks me.

You're standing in a pretty long line with that opinion, Beck! ;-)


> This irks me even more when I see that the Nokia phone software
> DOES allow synching with Vista calendar and contacts. And actually
> it works very well indeed.


While the sync process works Very well with Nokias, I've found the actuall
"connection" to a PC with varioys Nokia Suires over the years to be an
absolute pain in the arse! Flaky cables, bad IR and/or bluetooth
connections, etc., all stemming (IMO) from Nokia trying to manage the
connection in their own sofTware, rather than let Windows handle the
connection itself, and the Nokia Suite just managing the data flow. I've
owned probably 20 Nokia phones over the years, and each one if eever tried
to sync was a unique challenge to connect. My "favorite" was a Nokia 3120
that fried my PC's motherboard. Apparently I didn't follow the directions
to plug in the USB cable to the PC first, then the phone. Phone first then
PC made the PC lock up, and never boot again! (Until I swapped main
boards.)


> You may have seen from previous posts that I have been having
> issues with my windows mobile Fujitsu Loox.

At least it's not trying to immolate you like your Wizard! ;-)


> Now if Nokia can implement synching with vista calendar and
> contacts, why can't Microsoft? It is their software after all.

Synching Windows Mobile has been problematic from day one. I suspect you
could search the archives of this group and not find a single post that
says "Activesync is a pleasure to use."

> I know they say it will be there in the future, but the future is infinite.


More infinite than my patience, that's for sure.

IMO, sadly, WM peaked at WM2003/AS 3.8. After that, we've lost feature
after feature- WiFi/LAN sync, sync by category filter, and the "devil's
deal" trade of speedy battery-backed RAM for slow "persistent" flash memory.

WMDC/AS needs a major overhaul sooner rather than later- particularly in
light of the recent increase in popularity of smartphones outside of the
business world.

Don't get me wrong- I love Windows Mobile, and the capabilities of these
miraculous devices, but I hold my breath every time I plug my WM phone into
my PC wondering what will go wrong this time! What contacts might
mysteriously disappear, which sub-folders of my IE Mobile Favorites will be
emptied, or which unchanged file(s) will report a conflict. This, of course,
assumes the phone actually connects in the first place without a
synchronisation error replete with a generic, inconclusive error code!

Sometimes it's hard to believe AS/WMDC come from the same company that gave
us the Zune, which syncs smoothly, at lightning speed, and as flawlessly
over WiFi as it does via a cable. Heck, if they added a browser, e-mail
client and PIM to my Zune, I might be tempted to leave my PPC at home! ;-)

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:fjum7r$8md$1@aioe.org...
> At 13 Dec 2007 18:00:02 +0000 Beck wrote:
>> I know that Windows Mobile device centre does not sync with Windows
>> Vista Calendar or contacts and it really irks me.
>
> You're standing in a pretty long line with that opinion, Beck! ;-)

Maybe time for my 6 monthly nag to the development team.

> While the sync process works Very well with Nokias, I've found the actuall
> "connection" to a PC with varioys Nokia Suires over the years to be an
> absolute pain in the arse! Flaky cables, bad IR and/or bluetooth
> connections, etc., all stemming (IMO) from Nokia trying to manage the
> connection in their own sofTware, rather than let Windows handle the
> connection itself, and the Nokia Suite just managing the data flow. I've
> owned probably 20 Nokia phones over the years, and each one if eever tried
> to sync was a unique challenge to connect. My "favorite" was a Nokia 3120
> that fried my PC's motherboard. Apparently I didn't follow the directions
> to plug in the USB cable to the PC first, then the phone. Phone first
> then
> PC made the PC lock up, and never boot again! (Until I swapped main
> boards.)

I always plug a usb cable into a PC first, never the other way round. Call
me sensitive, but If there's going to be a surge from the PC, I would rather
not have a device attached to it at the same time :-)

> WMDC/AS needs a major overhaul sooner rather than later- particularly in
> light of the recent increase in popularity of smartphones outside of the
> business world.
>
> Don't get me wrong- I love Windows Mobile, and the capabilities of these
> miraculous devices, but I hold my breath every time I plug my WM phone
> into
> my PC wondering what will go wrong this time! What contacts might
> mysteriously disappear, which sub-folders of my IE Mobile Favorites will
> be
> emptied, or which unchanged file(s) will report a conflict. This, of
> course,
> assumes the phone actually connects in the first place without a
> synchronisation error replete with a generic, inconclusive error code!
>
> Sometimes it's hard to believe AS/WMDC come from the same company that
> gave
> us the Zune, which syncs smoothly, at lightning speed, and as flawlessly
> over WiFi as it does via a cable. Heck, if they added a browser, e-mail
> client and PIM to my Zune, I might be tempted to leave my PPC at home!
> ;-)

You got me thinking about my Fujitsu again. I am beginning to think the
problems I have with it are not device specific but windows mobile specific.