Hi out there...

PPC newbie here and I have several issues... been trying to figure biggest
problem out for the last 2-3 days with no luck. At this point... I'm not
even sure WHERE my problem is... but am leaning toward Mobile 5's WMP 10.

I've loaded a couple of chapters of a Book-on-Tape... into a CF (64mb), an
SD card (2gb) and even copied 1 chapter from the CF into IPAQ memory. WMP
keeps saying "Cannot play the file. The file is either corrupted or the
Player does not support the format you are trying to play".

Files are in MP3 format... and they all play on the PC using WMP 9... tried
at 128bps and 64bps. Could have sworn that I had a couple of MP3s play 7-10
days ago... but don't remember ANY playing since I picked up the SD card...

Anyone have any ideas??
Thanks in advance... Steve

WMP is not a suitable app for what you need to do, in this case because
it does not support bookmarking.

There are several other ppc mp3 players around and I am sure you will
get some recommendations here, but start with a google search for

POCKETPC MP3 PLAYER BOOKMARKS

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Hi Beverly...

Since your tag line says you're a "mobile guru"... I wonder if you can tell
me how to wipe out my IPAQ 2495 and reload Mobile 5... same as reformatting
a PC and re-installing Windows... except I know what I'm doing on a PC.

I now see several other symptoms (which lead me to starting over again)...

1. Downloaded and installed MortPlayer... it installed, accepted some mp3
files but would not play them. I hit the > button and NO time ticked off...
so I removed it.

2. Then downloaded and installed PocketMusic... 1st time install failed;
2nd time it installed. However, when I ran PocketMusic... it never showed
up on the screen nor was did it show in "Running Programs".

3. Other curiosities...

3a clicked on "speaker" (Start-line icon on right)... it shows
Speaker ON but NO volume... I run the slider up but it goes back to bottom.

3b half the time I power up (in the cradle); seems ActiveSync doesn't
start up and the PC never connects. I start ActiveSync (on PPC) and it
doesn't connect up with PC until I do Start/Settings/Connections and change
the USB ActiveSync Interface. Only matters that I choose the one that's NOT
set... it reboots and then connects.

3c Already went thru my difficulty with Windows Media Player... maybe
it doesn't have bookmarks (good feature) BUT... it still should function (in
my mind anyway)

So... I'm now feeling that original owner may have installed/removed
something that shouldn't have been. I've the IPAQ, cradle, book and CD...
but don't see any references (so far) to starting back to out-of-the-box
position.

Any pointers??
Thanks in advance again!!
Steve




"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:uTp1BjNGIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> WMP is not a suitable app for what you need to do, in this case because it
> does not support bookmarking.
>
> There are several other ppc mp3 players around and I am sure you will get
> some recommendations here, but start with a google search for
>
> POCKETPC MP3 PLAYER BOOKMARKS
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

simultaneously push and hold the reset, Calendar, and iTask buttons for more
than two seconds

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Steve" <SteveK50******.com> wrote in message
news:13i7lutm4friua5@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi Beverly...
>
> Since your tag line says you're a "mobile guru"... I wonder if you can
> tell me how to wipe out my IPAQ 2495 and reload Mobile 5... same as
> reformatting a PC and re-installing Windows... except I know what I'm
> doing on a PC.
>
> I now see several other symptoms (which lead me to starting over again)...
>
> 1. Downloaded and installed MortPlayer... it installed, accepted some
> mp3 files but would not play them. I hit the > button and NO time ticked
> off... so I removed it.
>
> 2. Then downloaded and installed PocketMusic... 1st time install
> failed; 2nd time it installed. However, when I ran PocketMusic... it
> never showed up on the screen nor was did it show in "Running Programs".
>
> 3. Other curiosities...
>
> 3a clicked on "speaker" (Start-line icon on right)... it shows
> Speaker ON but NO volume... I run the slider up but it goes back to
> bottom.
>
> 3b half the time I power up (in the cradle); seems ActiveSync
> doesn't start up and the PC never connects. I start ActiveSync (on PPC)
> and it doesn't connect up with PC until I do Start/Settings/Connections
> and change the USB ActiveSync Interface. Only matters that I choose the
> one that's NOT set... it reboots and then connects.
>
> 3c Already went thru my difficulty with Windows Media Player...
> maybe it doesn't have bookmarks (good feature) BUT... it still should
> function (in my mind anyway)
>
> So... I'm now feeling that original owner may have installed/removed
> something that shouldn't have been. I've the IPAQ, cradle, book and CD...
> but don't see any references (so far) to starting back to out-of-the-box
> position.
>
> Any pointers??
> Thanks in advance again!!
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:uTp1BjNGIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> WMP is not a suitable app for what you need to do, in this case because
>> it does not support bookmarking.
>>
>> There are several other ppc mp3 players around and I am sure you will get
>> some recommendations here, but start with a google search for
>>
>> POCKETPC MP3 PLAYER BOOKMARKS
>>
>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
>

Hi Werner...

OK... tried it 6-7 times and it keeps coming back asking for MY security
code and programs are not deleted. Here's what I've tried... all with power
ON.

I've pressed the Calendar and iTask at same time (best I could)... Calendar
then iTask and vice-versa. Once both were down, I pressed the Reset (on
bottom). Although I held for 2-5 seconds... the display went blank (it
powered down). I waited 5-10 minutes (I expected it to reboot like a PC)
but ended up manually powering up. No change.

I also tried to hold the Power button in too (with the Calendar/iTask)...
like a Palm Pilot... then press the reset... same.

After I send this... I'm going to power it down... press the
Calendar/iTask... THEN try to Power On and, if I get a light, then I'll hit
reset.

Frustrating... Steve



"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
news:eq$5FGVGIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> simultaneously push and hold the reset, Calendar, and iTask buttons for
> more than two seconds
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
> Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
> "Steve" <SteveK50******.com> wrote in message
> news:13i7lutm4friua5@corp.supernews.com...
>> Hi Beverly...
>>
>> Since your tag line says you're a "mobile guru"... I wonder if you can
>> tell me how to wipe out my IPAQ 2495 and reload Mobile 5... same as
>> reformatting a PC and re-installing Windows... except I know what I'm
>> doing on a PC.
>>
>> I now see several other symptoms (which lead me to starting over
>> again)...
>>
>> 1. Downloaded and installed MortPlayer... it installed, accepted some
>> mp3 files but would not play them. I hit the > button and NO time ticked
>> off... so I removed it.
>>
>> 2. Then downloaded and installed PocketMusic... 1st time install
>> failed; 2nd time it installed. However, when I ran PocketMusic... it
>> never showed up on the screen nor was did it show in "Running Programs".
>>
>> 3. Other curiosities...
>>
>> 3a clicked on "speaker" (Start-line icon on right)... it shows
>> Speaker ON but NO volume... I run the slider up but it goes back to
>> bottom.
>>
>> 3b half the time I power up (in the cradle); seems ActiveSync
>> doesn't start up and the PC never connects. I start ActiveSync (on PPC)
>> and it doesn't connect up with PC until I do Start/Settings/Connections
>> and change the USB ActiveSync Interface. Only matters that I choose the
>> one that's NOT set... it reboots and then connects.
>>
>> 3c Already went thru my difficulty with Windows Media Player...
>> maybe it doesn't have bookmarks (good feature) BUT... it still should
>> function (in my mind anyway)
>>
>> So... I'm now feeling that original owner may have installed/removed
>> something that shouldn't have been. I've the IPAQ, cradle, book and
>> CD... but don't see any references (so far) to starting back to
>> out-of-the-box position.
>>
>> Any pointers??
>> Thanks in advance again!!
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
>> message news:uTp1BjNGIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> WMP is not a suitable app for what you need to do, in this case because
>>> it does not support bookmarking.
>>>
>>> There are several other ppc mp3 players around and I am sure you will
>>> get some recommendations here, but start with a google search for
>>>
>>> POCKETPC MP3 PLAYER BOOKMARKS
>>>
>>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>>
>>
>
>

On 28 Oct, 15:43, "Steve" <Steve...******.com> wrote:
> Hi Werner...
>
> OK... tried it 6-7 times and it keeps coming back asking for MY security
> code and programs are not deleted. Here's what I've tried... all with power
> ON.
>
> I've pressed the Calendar and iTask at same time (best I could)... Calendar
> then iTask and vice-versa. Once both were down, I pressed the Reset (on
> bottom). Although I held for 2-5 seconds... the display went blank (it
> powered down). I waited 5-10 minutes (I expected it to reboot like a PC)
> but ended up manually powering up. No change.
>
> I also tried to hold the Power button in too (with the Calendar/iTask)...
> like a Palm Pilot... then press the reset... same.
>
> After I send this... I'm going to power it down... press the
> Calendar/iTask... THEN try to Power On and, if I get a light, then I'll hit
> reset.
>
> Frustrating... Steve
>
> "Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
>
> news:eq$5FGVGIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > simultaneously push and hold the reset, Calendar, and iTask buttons for
> > more than two seconds
>
> > --
>
> > --
> > Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
> > Devices
> > Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> >http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/- you will definitely like it.
>
> > "Steve" <Steve...******.com> wrote in message
> >news:13i7lutm4friua5@corp.supernews.com...
> >> Hi Beverly...
>
> >> Since your tag line says you're a "mobile guru"... I wonder if you can
> >> tell me how to wipe out my IPAQ 2495 and reload Mobile 5... same as
> >> reformatting a PC and re-installing Windows... except I know what I'm
> >> doing on a PC.
>
> >> I now see several other symptoms (which lead me to starting over
> >> again)...
>
> >> 1. Downloaded and installed MortPlayer... it installed, accepted some
> >> mp3 files but would not play them. I hit the > button and NO time ticked
> >> off... so I removed it.
>
> >> 2. Then downloaded and installed PocketMusic... 1st time install
> >> failed; 2nd time it installed. However, when I ran PocketMusic... it
> >> never showed up on the screen nor was did it show in "Running Programs".
>
> >> 3. Other curiosities...
>
> >> 3a clicked on "speaker" (Start-line icon on right)... it shows
> >> Speaker ON but NO volume... I run the slider up but it goes back to
> >> bottom.
>
> >> 3b half the time I power up (in the cradle); seems ActiveSync
> >> doesn't start up and the PC never connects. I start ActiveSync (on PPC)
> >> and it doesn't connect up with PC until I do Start/Settings/Connections
> >> and change the USB ActiveSync Interface. Only matters that I choose the
> >> one that's NOT set... it reboots and then connects.
>
> >> 3c Already went thru my difficulty with Windows Media Player...
> >> maybe it doesn't have bookmarks (good feature) BUT... it still should
> >> function (in my mind anyway)
>
> >> So... I'm now feeling that original owner may have installed/removed
> >> something that shouldn't have been. I've the IPAQ, cradle, book and
> >> CD... but don't see any references (so far) to starting back to
> >> out-of-the-box position.
>
> >> Any pointers??
> >> Thanks in advance again!!
> >> Steve
>
> >> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:uTp1BjNGIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
> >>> WMP is not a suitable app for what you need to do, in this case because
> >>> it does not support bookmarking.
>
> >>> There are several other ppc mp3 players around and I am sure you will
> >>> get some recommendations here, but start with a google search for
>
> >>> POCKETPC MP3 PLAYER BOOKMARKS
>
> >>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Firstly, go to
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...&lang=en&cc=us

or http://tinyurl.com/24udu2

and download the user guide for your PDA.

Secondly, to carry out the hard-reset, press and hold down the
Calendar and iTask buttons (the two lower outside buttons), and then
insert the pointer to push the reset button. Keep all the buttons held
down until the screen totally fades, then release all. After a further
ten seconds, press the reset button again and the PDA should turn on.

The User Guide should tell you everything else you need to know.

--
WH

Hi again...

Thanks to all who tried to help... the first responses lead me to conclude I
needed a Hard Reset... which DID resolve my various problems... starting
with Media Player and Sound.

As to HOW to actually do a hard reset... Werner and William pointed me to
the DocSets... same as my paper book... but it did NOT work. However, I
scrolled to "Hard Reset" (near top of newsgroup)... and went thru 20-30
posts until I found one... by Lex Bolkesteijn... that worked... looks like
the iPaq 2495 is different than the 2000-Series instructions... who'd a
thunk???

Anyway, Lex's method is... Press and hold the power, calender and e-mail
button . While doing that press, the soft-reset button, keep the power,
calander and e-mail button pressed until the display lights up. Release
buttons and a message "Formatting PS" will be displayed. You're done.

So... again... thanks to all who cared about my problem... keep Lex's
instructions in mind (for iPaq 2495 anyway)... and, hopefully, one day I can
be good enough to help someone else!

Steve


"William" <william@lowerknowle.com> wrote in message
news:1193590215.024483.23140@z9g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
> On 28 Oct, 15:43, "Steve" <Steve...******.com> wrote:
>> Hi Werner...
>>
>> OK... tried it 6-7 times and it keeps coming back asking for MY security
>> code and programs are not deleted. Here's what I've tried... all with
>> power
>> ON.
>>
>> I've pressed the Calendar and iTask at same time (best I could)...
>> Calendar
>> then iTask and vice-versa. Once both were down, I pressed the Reset (on
>> bottom). Although I held for 2-5 seconds... the display went blank (it
>> powered down). I waited 5-10 minutes (I expected it to reboot like a PC)
>> but ended up manually powering up. No change.
>>
>> I also tried to hold the Power button in too (with the Calendar/iTask)...
>> like a Palm Pilot... then press the reset... same.
>>
>> After I send this... I'm going to power it down... press the
>> Calendar/iTask... THEN try to Power On and, if I get a light, then I'll
>> hit
>> reset.
>>
>> Frustrating... Steve
>>
>> "Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile
>> Devices]"<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
>>
>> news:eq$5FGVGIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>
>> > simultaneously push and hold the reset, Calendar, and iTask buttons for
>> > more than two seconds
>>
>> > --
>>
>> > --
>> > Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>> > Devices
>> > Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> >http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/- you will definitely like it.
>>
>> > "Steve" <Steve...******.com> wrote in message
>> >news:13i7lutm4friua5@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> Hi Beverly...
>>
>> >> Since your tag line says you're a "mobile guru"... I wonder if you can
>> >> tell me how to wipe out my IPAQ 2495 and reload Mobile 5... same as
>> >> reformatting a PC and re-installing Windows... except I know what I'm
>> >> doing on a PC.
>>
>> >> I now see several other symptoms (which lead me to starting over
>> >> again)...
>>
>> >> 1. Downloaded and installed MortPlayer... it installed, accepted
>> >> some
>> >> mp3 files but would not play them. I hit the > button and NO time
>> >> ticked
>> >> off... so I removed it.
>>
>> >> 2. Then downloaded and installed PocketMusic... 1st time install
>> >> failed; 2nd time it installed. However, when I ran PocketMusic... it
>> >> never showed up on the screen nor was did it show in "Running
>> >> Programs".
>>
>> >> 3. Other curiosities...
>>
>> >> 3a clicked on "speaker" (Start-line icon on right)... it shows
>> >> Speaker ON but NO volume... I run the slider up but it goes back to
>> >> bottom.
>>
>> >> 3b half the time I power up (in the cradle); seems ActiveSync
>> >> doesn't start up and the PC never connects. I start ActiveSync (on
>> >> PPC)
>> >> and it doesn't connect up with PC until I do
>> >> Start/Settings/Connections
>> >> and change the USB ActiveSync Interface. Only matters that I choose
>> >> the
>> >> one that's NOT set... it reboots and then connects.
>>
>> >> 3c Already went thru my difficulty with Windows Media Player...
>> >> maybe it doesn't have bookmarks (good feature) BUT... it still should
>> >> function (in my mind anyway)
>>
>> >> So... I'm now feeling that original owner may have installed/removed
>> >> something that shouldn't have been. I've the IPAQ, cradle, book and
>> >> CD... but don't see any references (so far) to starting back to
>> >> out-of-the-box position.
>>
>> >> Any pointers??
>> >> Thanks in advance again!!
>> >> Steve
>>
>> >> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:uTp1BjNGIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>> >>> WMP is not a suitable app for what you need to do, in this case
>> >>> because
>> >>> it does not support bookmarking.
>>
>> >>> There are several other ppc mp3 players around and I am sure you will
>> >>> get some recommendations here, but start with a google search for
>>
>> >>> POCKETPC MP3 PLAYER BOOKMARKS
>>
>> >>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Firstly, go to
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...&lang=en&cc=us
>
> or http://tinyurl.com/24udu2
>
> and download the user guide for your PDA.
>
> Secondly, to carry out the hard-reset, press and hold down the
> Calendar and iTask buttons (the two lower outside buttons), and then
> insert the pointer to push the reset button. Keep all the buttons held
> down until the screen totally fades, then release all. After a further
> ten seconds, press the reset button again and the PDA should turn on.
>
> The User Guide should tell you everything else you need to know.
>
> --
> WH
>

It's actually a good thread in that the solution is now searchable on
google groups
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...pocketpc?hl=en to help
others...

....every ppc has a different method to accomplish a cold boot, and, now
with persistent memory where removing the battery won't help, even the
experts often can't help.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

On 29 Oct, 15:59, "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]"
<BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:
> It's actually a good thread in that the solution is now searchable on
> google groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc?hl=ento help
> others...
>
> ...every ppc has a different method to accomplish a cold boot, and, now
> with persistent memory where removing the battery won't help, even the
> experts often can't help.

Just to follow-up on that - the hard-reset method supplied is the
correct one, but the 2495 seems to have originally been supplied with
WM2003 (or perhaps 2003SE). I suspect that the fact this one had been
upgraded to WM5 caused the change in the reset procedure. I.e. with
WM5, the persistent storage can override the older form of hard-reset.
Hence most PPCs now have a "Clear Storage" facility to finish the job.

--
WH

Morning William...

Just to clarify (my mind) about your response... are you saying that you
suspect MY iPaq 2495 or ALL 2495s might have been upgraded?

And... probably should start another thread for this question... but HOW
would one (of course I mean me) install a clean copy of WM5 on a PPC... and
WHERE would one get a copy? Actually, I guess the real questions are more
like... where does one get WM6 and how to install it (over what I have)??

Thanks (again) in advance,
Steve


"William" <william@lowerknowle.com> wrote in message
news:1193691493.254706.197350@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
> On 29 Oct, 15:59, "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]"
> <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:
>> It's actually a good thread in that the solution is now searchable on
>> google
>> groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc?hl=ento
>> help
>> others...
>>
>> ...every ppc has a different method to accomplish a cold boot, and, now
>> with persistent memory where removing the battery won't help, even the
>> experts often can't help.
>
> Just to follow-up on that - the hard-reset method supplied is the
> correct one, but the 2495 seems to have originally been supplied with
> WM2003 (or perhaps 2003SE). I suspect that the fact this one had been
> upgraded to WM5 caused the change in the reset procedure. I.e. with
> WM5, the persistent storage can override the older form of hard-reset.
> Hence most PPCs now have a "Clear Storage" facility to finish the job.
>
> --
> WH
>

You can upgrade WM2003SE to WM5 using HP's official (commercial) WM5
upgrade. Note that, however,

1. it's far from perfect (REALLY buggy) and I would think twice before
upgrading.
2. unlike with the more popular VGA models like the x51v and the hx4700, it
has no home-made, "cooked" but, as they're still WM5, legal WM5 builds
eliminating these bugs

BTW, the 2495 is a WM5 model - it was never ever shipped with WM2003SE. Are
you sure yours is a 2495 and not a, say, 2415?

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Steve" <SteveK50******.com> wrote in message
news:13im7k3bo344567@corp.supernews.com...
> Morning William...
>
> Just to clarify (my mind) about your response... are you saying that you
> suspect MY iPaq 2495 or ALL 2495s might have been upgraded?
>
> And... probably should start another thread for this question... but HOW
> would one (of course I mean me) install a clean copy of WM5 on a PPC...
> and WHERE would one get a copy? Actually, I guess the real questions are
> more like... where does one get WM6 and how to install it (over what I
> have)??
>
> Thanks (again) in advance,
> Steve
>
>
> "William" <william@lowerknowle.com> wrote in message
> news:1193691493.254706.197350@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
>> On 29 Oct, 15:59, "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]"
>> <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:
>>> It's actually a good thread in that the solution is now searchable on
>>> google
>>> groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc?hl=ento
>>> help
>>> others...
>>>
>>> ...every ppc has a different method to accomplish a cold boot, and, now
>>> with persistent memory where removing the battery won't help, even the
>>> experts often can't help.
>>
>> Just to follow-up on that - the hard-reset method supplied is the
>> correct one, but the 2495 seems to have originally been supplied with
>> WM2003 (or perhaps 2003SE). I suspect that the fact this one had been
>> upgraded to WM5 caused the change in the reset procedure. I.e. with
>> WM5, the persistent storage can override the older form of hard-reset.
>> Hence most PPCs now have a "Clear Storage" facility to finish the job.
>>
>> --
>> WH
>>
>
>

Hi Werner...

I was trying to get a clarification from William's comments about WM2003,
etc.

As I said in first post... PPC newbie and was trying to solve a problem (did
with lots of help from people like you)... but my last few posts were more
of the "learning" variety...

My unit is definitely a 2495... little sticker above battery door (on
outside) says "Windows Mobile 5.0" and, under battery, it says "hx2495b".
But got curious about his "upgrade" comment... so now wondering WHERE to get
(for instance) WM 6.0... and HOW to install it... and, of course, how to
backup WM 5.0 (in case of a problem).

I guess my current questions are best served in a new thread (with the
correct subject) now!
Steve


"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
news:%23vz4abVHIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> You can upgrade WM2003SE to WM5 using HP's official (commercial) WM5
> upgrade. Note that, however,
>
> 1. it's far from perfect (REALLY buggy) and I would think twice before
> upgrading.
> 2. unlike with the more popular VGA models like the x51v and the hx4700,
> it has no home-made, "cooked" but, as they're still WM5, legal WM5 builds
> eliminating these bugs
>
> BTW, the 2495 is a WM5 model - it was never ever shipped with WM2003SE.
> Are you sure yours is a 2495 and not a, say, 2415?
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
> Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
> "Steve" <SteveK50******.com> wrote in message
> news:13im7k3bo344567@corp.supernews.com...
>> Morning William...
>>
>> Just to clarify (my mind) about your response... are you saying that you
>> suspect MY iPaq 2495 or ALL 2495s might have been upgraded?
>>
>> And... probably should start another thread for this question... but HOW
>> would one (of course I mean me) install a clean copy of WM5 on a PPC...
>> and WHERE would one get a copy? Actually, I guess the real questions are
>> more like... where does one get WM6 and how to install it (over what I
>> have)??
>>
>> Thanks (again) in advance,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> "William" <william@lowerknowle.com> wrote in message
>> news:1193691493.254706.197350@y42g2000hsy.googlegr oups.com...
>>> On 29 Oct, 15:59, "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]"
>>> <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:
>>>> It's actually a good thread in that the solution is now searchable on
>>>> google
>>>> groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc?hl=ento
>>>> help
>>>> others...
>>>>
>>>> ...every ppc has a different method to accomplish a cold boot, and, now
>>>> with persistent memory where removing the battery won't help, even the
>>>> experts often can't help.
>>>
>>> Just to follow-up on that - the hard-reset method supplied is the
>>> correct one, but the 2495 seems to have originally been supplied with
>>> WM2003 (or perhaps 2003SE). I suspect that the fact this one had been
>>> upgraded to WM5 caused the change in the reset procedure. I.e. with
>>> WM5, the persistent storage can override the older form of hard-reset.
>>> Hence most PPCs now have a "Clear Storage" facility to finish the job.
>>>
>>> --
>>> WH
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

On 3 Nov, 01:44, "Steve" <Steve...******.com> wrote:
> Hi Werner...
>
> I was trying to get a clarification from William's comments about WM2003,
> etc.
>
> As I said in first post... PPC newbie and was trying to solve a problem (did
> with lots of help from people like you)... but my last few posts were more
> of the "learning" variety...
>
> My unit is definitely a 2495... little sticker above battery door (on
> outside) says "Windows Mobile 5.0" and, under battery, it says "hx2495b".
> But got curious about his "upgrade" comment... so now wondering WHERE to get
> (for instance) WM 6.0... and HOW to install it... and, of course, how to
> backup WM 5.0 (in case of a problem).

Steve, my apologies, I think I have caused some confusion. The manual
for the hx2000 series (downloaded from the HP web-site) is written for
WM2003. I therefore assumed that the 2495 was a WM2003 device that had
been upgraded to WM5. Of course it isn't.

It seems that the earlier 2000 series models used WM2003 whilst the
later models used WM5 (I'm unsure why HP didn't update the manual).
Anyway, I have no knowledge of a WM6 upgrade for the 2495. The upgrade
would normally have to come from the manufacturer, and they don't
usually bother, In most cases, the simplest way to upgrade is to move
to a new device.

--
WH

There's no WM6 upgrade for the hx2xxx series (or, for that matter, ANY HP
devices).

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--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"William" <william@lowerknowle.com> wrote in message
news:1194091821.232473.286430@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> On 3 Nov, 01:44, "Steve" <Steve...******.com> wrote:
>> Hi Werner...
>>
>> I was trying to get a clarification from William's comments about WM2003,
>> etc.
>>
>> As I said in first post... PPC newbie and was trying to solve a problem
>> (did
>> with lots of help from people like you)... but my last few posts were
>> more
>> of the "learning" variety...
>>
>> My unit is definitely a 2495... little sticker above battery door (on
>> outside) says "Windows Mobile 5.0" and, under battery, it says "hx2495b".
>> But got curious about his "upgrade" comment... so now wondering WHERE to
>> get
>> (for instance) WM 6.0... and HOW to install it... and, of course, how to
>> backup WM 5.0 (in case of a problem).
>
> Steve, my apologies, I think I have caused some confusion. The manual
> for the hx2000 series (downloaded from the HP web-site) is written for
> WM2003. I therefore assumed that the 2495 was a WM2003 device that had
> been upgraded to WM5. Of course it isn't.
>
> It seems that the earlier 2000 series models used WM2003 whilst the
> later models used WM5 (I'm unsure why HP didn't update the manual).
> Anyway, I have no knowledge of a WM6 upgrade for the 2495. The upgrade
> would normally have to come from the manufacturer, and they don't
> usually bother, In most cases, the simplest way to upgrade is to move
> to a new device.
>
> --
> WH
>