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Old 06-10-2007, 05:00 AM
Marshall Price
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Battery is drained every night

Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.

The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.

I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.

I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.
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Old 06-10-2007, 05:30 AM
Shane Nokes
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Check the backup battery.

It's probably dead.

Also how old is the current standard battery that you're using?


"Marshall Price" <d021317c******.com> wrote in message
news:eiposX1qHHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
> drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>
> The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
> driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>
> I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>
> I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
> this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
> automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.


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Old 06-10-2007, 06:30 AM
Linley Meslier
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Check if you have any application running in the background. If so,
use a Task Manager to properly close them. I recommend Magic button.

Linley Meslier
Windows Mobile Training Specialist
Pocket PC Mauritius
Http://PocketpcMauritius.blogspot.com

Marshall Price wrote:
> Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
> drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>
> The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
> driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>
> I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>
> I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
> this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
> automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.


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Old 06-10-2007, 07:00 AM
Dr. Woodard
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Re: Battery is drained every night

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:54:49 -0400, Marshall Price
<d021317c******.com> wrote:

>Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
>drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>
>The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
>driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>
>I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>
>I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
>this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
>automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.


My understanding is of the 2495 and 2795 the problem occurs with
Activesync and the use of CF/SD cards. Alledgedly the problem
can be fixed by changing something in Activesync which I never could
get to work.

There is a fix for this but i've never gotten the fix to work.

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Old 06-10-2007, 11:20 AM
mike
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Dr. Woodard wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:54:49 -0400, Marshall Price
> <d021317c******.com> wrote:
>
>> Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
>> drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>>
>> The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
>> driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>>
>> I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>>
>> I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
>> this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
>> automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.

>
> My understanding is of the 2495 and 2795 the problem occurs with
> Activesync and the use of CF/SD cards. Alledgedly the problem
> can be fixed by changing something in Activesync which I never could
> get to work.
>
> There is a fix for this but i've never gotten the fix to work.
>

go to aximsite.com and search for fake server hack.
Lots of discussion on activesync issues.
See if this relates to your machine.
mike

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Old 06-10-2007, 12:00 PM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Battery is drained every night

might also check the power/battery settings and assure that it shuts
down after a short interval...

The "overnight" brings up the possibility that the midnight calendar
update is powering the device on at midnight and it is failing to shut
down thereafter... set an alarm for 12:15 and see if it's turned on.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:30 AM
Marshall Price
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Shane Nokes wrote:
> Check the backup battery.
>
> It's probably dead.
>
> Also how old is the current standard battery that you're using?
>
>
> "Marshall Price" <d021317c******.com> wrote in message
> news:eiposX1qHHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
>> drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>>
>> The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
>> driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>>
>> I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>>
>> I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
>> this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
>> automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.

>


The backup battery has never dipped below 100%, and the main battery is
about 6 months old. It was fine before I messed around with the
software, except that the PPC turned itself on whenever I inserted an SD
card, a minor annoyance (except for the two it never even detects).
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:40 AM
Marshall Price
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Linley Meslier wrote:
> Check if you have any application running in the background. If so,
> use a Task Manager to properly close them. I recommend Magic button.
>
> Linley Meslier
> Windows Mobile Training Specialist
> Pocket PC Mauritius
> Http://PocketpcMauritius.blogspot.com
>
> Marshall Price wrote:
>> Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
>> drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>>
>> The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
>> driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>>
>> I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>>
>> I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
>> this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
>> automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.

>


Thanks for the help, Linley. I suspect it might be one of the keyboard
programs, ActiveSync, or a video file viewer I tried, but removed. (I
tried installing it from a .CAB file, but never got an activation key
for it. It was also around that same time -- perhaps three weeks ago.)
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Old 06-11-2007, 01:50 AM
Marshall Price
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] wrote:
> might also check the power/battery settings and assure that it shuts
> down after a short interval...
>
> The "overnight" brings up the possibility that the midnight calendar
> update is powering the device on at midnight and it is failing to shut
> down thereafter... set an alarm for 12:15 and see if it's turned on.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]


I have it set to shut down as soon as possible (1 min.) after inactivity
when on battery power, and after 5 minutes on external power.

I don't understand "Standby" at all, but I did change it from 72 hours
once, and then put it back. At present it says 9.7 hours left, which I
don't remember noticing before. Is that normal?

When the battery runs out, it loses the date and "thinks" it's 2005,
IIRC. I have no alarms, appointments, or tasks.

The time zone says "GMT-5 Eastern US."

I'll try your idea.

Thank you very much.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:00 AM
Marshall Price
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Dr. Woodard wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:54:49 -0400, Marshall Price
> <d021317c******.com> wrote:
>
>> Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
>> drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>>
>> The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
>> driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>>
>> I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>>
>> I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
>> this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
>> automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.

>
> My understanding is of the 2495 and 2795 the problem occurs with
> Activesync and the use of CF/SD cards. Alledgedly the problem
> can be fixed by changing something in Activesync which I never could
> get to work.
>
> There is a fix for this but i've never gotten the fix to work.
>


Yes, I suspect this is it. I'd like to remove ActiveSync, but it
doesn't show up under "Remove Programs." I'd avoided installing it
until I tried enabling my new BlueTooth folding keyboard (which I ought
to warn everybody about: HP doesn't mention that the layout is not
standard, which is a major headache if you want to use it with a Dvorak
driver; I suspect it's impossible!). I've always had trouble with
ActiveSync -- on all my five or six PPCs.

I have four or five different SD cards, all of which work in my camera,
but two of them are undetected by the iPAQ. I think they all worked
when they were new, not long ago. Reformatting them (to FAT32) had no
effect.

The more frustrated I get, the more trouble I have understanding what to
do! :(
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:00 AM
Marshall Price
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Re: Battery is drained every night

mike wrote:
> Dr. Woodard wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:54:49 -0400, Marshall Price
>> <d021317c******.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Every night, unless I leave my Pocket PC plugged in, the battery is
>>> drained, and the date and time are lost. It's an HP iPAQ hx2795b.
>>>
>>> The problem seemed to crop up after I installed ActiveSync, a Bluetooth
>>> driver for an HP folding keyboard, and a Dvorak keyboard layout driver.
>>>
>>> I uninstalled all but ActiveSync.
>>>
>>> I've noticed that the Pocket PC doesn't detect some of my SD cards, but
>>> this occurred earlier. When I insert an SD card, the Pocket PC turns on
>>> automatically, a behavior I'd like to disable, if possible.

>> My understanding is of the 2495 and 2795 the problem occurs with
>> Activesync and the use of CF/SD cards. Alledgedly the problem
>> can be fixed by changing something in Activesync which I never could
>> get to work.
>>
>> There is a fix for this but i've never gotten the fix to work.
>>

> go to aximsite.com and search for fake server hack.
> Lots of discussion on activesync issues.
> See if this relates to your machine.
> mike
>


"Lots of discussion"? Did I mention I'm dyslexic? )-;
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:00 AM
Ebbe Kristensen
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Re: Battery is drained every night

Marshall Price wrote:

> Yes, I suspect this is it. I'd like to remove ActiveSync, but it
> doesn't show up under "Remove Programs." I'd avoided installing it


ActiveSync is embedded in Pocket PC ROM and cannot be uninstalled. Likewise,
you haven't installed ActiveSync on your Pocket PC. It was there when you
bought it and it will continue to be there even after a hard reset.

Ebbe


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Old 06-11-2007, 07:50 AM
Dr. Woodard
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Re: Battery is drained every night

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:56:04 -0400, Marshall Price
<d021317c******.com> wrote:

>I'd avoided installing it
>until I tried enabling my new BlueTooth folding keyboard (which I ought
>to warn everybody about: HP doesn't mention that the layout is not
>standard,


Did you also notice the BT keyboard has no power off switch so it eats
batteries big time?

So I got rechargeables to use.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Battery is drained every night

way back when, I also suspected that it's necessary to assure that the
timeout settings don't overlap... for example, having the battery power
off matching ac power screen off settings... to be safe, make sure every
one of the power off times is unique...

reason for suspicion , the possibility that the system checks the first
event that comes up when the time increments, and doesn't check the
other(s).

However, at this point, my vote is that something is running and keeping
the unit on... to determine, since the device is "hard resetting"
restore your data, but don't restore or add any third party apps the
next time this happens, then see if the problem occurs the next night...
if it doesn't, it's likely one of the apps... if it does, the problem is
likely hardware.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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Old 06-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]
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Re: Battery is drained every night

>> Did you also notice the BT keyboard has no power off switch so it
eats batteries big time? <<

The stowaway bt keyboard (rebranded by Dell and others) has a switch in
the folding process... fold it closed and it's powered down.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]


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