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Old 09-28-2009, 12:21 PM
Happy Oyster
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Take a deep look into your notebook!

http://www.nickveasey.com/

He is an artist, and overdoes this a bit. So the terrific photographs are a bit
complicated to find. But you see an airplane, pants, skeletons in a bus, and,
yes, a notebook ........... in a really extraordinary way. The notebook, okay,
that might happen, but to sqeeze the airplane into the camera...

AMAZING!
--
**** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:20 AM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!


"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.nickveasey.com/
> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****


If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.

But then, as I said, I doubt that it's true.

Which could make for a good libel case.


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Old 10-02-2009, 06:22 AM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.com.. .
>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****

>
>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.


It is true.

They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the card
company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot charge that.


>But then, as I said, I doubt that it's true.
>
>Which could make for a good libel case.


Actually it is a case of large-scale theft: a large number of small sums, which
give a big total.

Out of the blue Globat deducts sums of about 50 US-Dollars from the credit card
accounts with their "automatic upgrades". ALSO (!) this "automatic upgrade"
means that instead of charging about 50 US-Dollar per year, they suddenly charge
the tri-fold sum from the credit-card. And THIS despite the fact, that Globat
already owes money to the customer...!

Confronted with the facts Globat refuses to answer.


I can only warn all customers of Globat to do as I say. Or they will lose money.
I wrote emails to the former owner of Globat, during whose time the first part
of the fraud was done. He did not reply. No wonder, as it is him, who is
responsible for the first part. And I guess that he did not tell the new owners,
what was going on. The new owners are no better that him, see part two...
--

Jeden Tag werden 6000 Mädchen genital vernichtet.

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Old 10-04-2009, 03:00 AM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!

Happy Oyster wrote:
> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>
> He is an artist, and overdoes this a bit. So the terrific photographs are a bit
> complicated to find.



Yes. The catalog is a better read than the flash.

http://www.nickveasey.com/NV%20Gallery%20Catalogue.pdf


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Old 10-06-2009, 01:00 AM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!


"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.com. ..
>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****

>>
>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.

>
> It is true.
>
> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the card
> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot charge
> that.
>


It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority. The credit
card company never deletes the account but merely marks it as dormant.
Since credit card debits are initiated from the debitors end, the amount
will still be debited against the card. The card issuer will either
transfer the debit to any credit card subsequently issued, or send the
holder of the card a bill if no further card was issued (and their debt
collectors if necessary).

The only way to stop a continuous credit card authority is to write to the
debiting organisation formally cancelling it. Writing to the credit card
issuer is not sufficient in itself. If the debitor still debits the card
then you have to recover you money from them, the credit card issuer has no
liability beyond anything contained in your country's legislation.

As far as the UK is concerned, although direct debits are covered by the
direct debit guarantee (where the bank have to recredit any debits once the
mandate is cancelled), continuous credit card authorities have no such
protection.


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Old 10-06-2009, 02:50 AM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!


"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4acaf815$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>
> "Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
> news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.com ...
>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
>>>
>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.

>>
>> It is true.
>>
>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the card
>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot charge
>> that.
>>

>
> It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
> from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority.


I should also add that relying on the offered credit card to go outside of
its expiry date doesn't always work either. Many larger organisations have
to ability to use a special expiry date code once the real expiry date has
passed. Smaller organisations have to find out the new expiry date.

Even today, one organisation still charges me $9.95 per month for a service
that I haven't used for over 5 years, charging it to a card number that
'hasn't existed' for at least 3 years. And it would certainly have expired
by now. The only reason I can't cancel it is that the organisation
concerned doesn't publish either phone numbers or addresses - you have to do
everything on line (and cancelling an account isn't one of the things you
can do).




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Old 10-06-2009, 03:30 PM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:56:29 +0100, "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.com ...
>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
>>>
>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.

>>
>> It is true.
>>
>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the card
>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot charge
>> that.
>>

>
>It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
>from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority. The credit
>card company never deletes the account but merely marks it as dormant.
>Since credit card debits are initiated from the debitors end, the amount
>will still be debited against the card. The card issuer will either
>transfer the debit to any credit card subsequently issued, or send the
>holder of the card a bill if no further card was issued (and their debt
>collectors if necessary).
>
>The only way to stop a continuous credit card authority is to write to the
>debiting organisation formally cancelling it. Writing to the credit card
>issuer is not sufficient in itself. If the debitor still debits the card
>then you have to recover you money from them, the credit card issuer has no
>liability beyond anything contained in your country's legislation.
>
>As far as the UK is concerned, although direct debits are covered by the
>direct debit guarantee (where the bank have to recredit any debits once the
>mandate is cancelled), continuous credit card authorities have no such
>protection.


The credit card number is not valid anymore. IT IS BLOCKED.
--
Herausforderung an die Universität Leipzig

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_ho12.htm
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:30 PM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:45:36 +0100, "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:4acaf815$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>>
>> "Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>> news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.co m...
>>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
>>>>
>>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.
>>>
>>> It is true.
>>>
>>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the card
>>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot charge
>>> that.
>>>

>>
>> It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
>> from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority.

>
>I should also add that relying on the offered credit card to go outside of
>its expiry date doesn't always work either. Many larger organisations have
>to ability to use a special expiry date code once the real expiry date has
>passed. Smaller organisations have to find out the new expiry date.
>
>Even today, one organisation still charges me $9.95 per month for a service
>that I haven't used for over 5 years, charging it to a card number that
>'hasn't existed' for at least 3 years. And it would certainly have expired
>by now. The only reason I can't cancel it is that the organisation
>concerned doesn't publish either phone numbers or addresses - you have to do
>everything on line (and cancelling an account isn't one of the things you
>can do).


Do they get the money or not? If they do, then just close the bank aacount and
open a new one.


This kind of crime could not happen if the bankers were not involved in it.
--
Herausforderung an die Universität Leipzig

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_ho12.htm
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:10 AM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!


"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
news:dvgnc5dmkcm6hbd592dq6bug2uq87ngb6d@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:45:36 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:4acaf815$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>>>
>>> "Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>> news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>>>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.c om...
>>>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
>>>>>
>>>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the
>>>>>bill.
>>>>
>>>> It is true.
>>>>
>>>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the
>>>> card
>>>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot
>>>> charge
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
>>> from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority.

>>
>>I should also add that relying on the offered credit card to go outside of
>>its expiry date doesn't always work either. Many larger organisations
>>have
>>to ability to use a special expiry date code once the real expiry date has
>>passed. Smaller organisations have to find out the new expiry date.
>>
>>Even today, one organisation still charges me $9.95 per month for a
>>service
>>that I haven't used for over 5 years, charging it to a card number that
>>'hasn't existed' for at least 3 years. And it would certainly have
>>expired
>>by now. The only reason I can't cancel it is that the organisation
>>concerned doesn't publish either phone numbers or addresses - you have to
>>do
>>everything on line (and cancelling an account isn't one of the things you
>>can do).

>
> Do they get the money or not? If they do, then just close the bank aacount
> and
> open a new one.
>


It's a credit card. They still send the monthly bill.

>
> This kind of crime could not happen if the bankers were not involved in
> it.
>


[SPAM snipped]


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Old 10-07-2009, 01:10 AM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!


"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
news:tpgnc59o7lo7tsqk5cquh6pro865saamad@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:56:29 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.co m...
>>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
>>>>
>>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.
>>>
>>> It is true.
>>>
>>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the card
>>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot charge
>>> that.
>>>

>>
>>It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
>>from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority. The credit
>>card company never deletes the account but merely marks it as dormant.
>>Since credit card debits are initiated from the debitors end, the amount
>>will still be debited against the card. The card issuer will either
>>transfer the debit to any credit card subsequently issued, or send the
>>holder of the card a bill if no further card was issued (and their debt
>>collectors if necessary).
>>
>>The only way to stop a continuous credit card authority is to write to the
>>debiting organisation formally cancelling it. Writing to the credit card
>>issuer is not sufficient in itself. If the debitor still debits the card
>>then you have to recover you money from them, the credit card issuer has
>>no
>>liability beyond anything contained in your country's legislation.
>>
>>As far as the UK is concerned, although direct debits are covered by the
>>direct debit guarantee (where the bank have to recredit any debits once
>>the
>>mandate is cancelled), continuous credit card authorities have no such
>>protection.

>
> The credit card number is not valid anymore. IT IS BLOCKED.
>


Please yourself.

[SPAM deleted]


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Old 10-07-2009, 07:40 PM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:02:06 +0100, "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>news:dvgnc5dmkcm6hbd592dq6bug2uq87ngb6d@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:45:36 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:4acaf815$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>>>>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>>>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>>>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>>>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the
>>>>>>bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is true.
>>>>>
>>>>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the
>>>>> card
>>>>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot
>>>>> charge
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
>>>> from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority.
>>>
>>>I should also add that relying on the offered credit card to go outside of
>>>its expiry date doesn't always work either. Many larger organisations
>>>have
>>>to ability to use a special expiry date code once the real expiry date has
>>>passed. Smaller organisations have to find out the new expiry date.
>>>
>>>Even today, one organisation still charges me $9.95 per month for a
>>>service
>>>that I haven't used for over 5 years, charging it to a card number that
>>>'hasn't existed' for at least 3 years. And it would certainly have
>>>expired
>>>by now. The only reason I can't cancel it is that the organisation
>>>concerned doesn't publish either phone numbers or addresses - you have to
>>>do
>>>everything on line (and cancelling an account isn't one of the things you
>>>can do).

>>
>> Do they get the money or not? If they do, then just close the bank aacount
>> and
>> open a new one.
>>

>
>It's a credit card. They still send the monthly bill.


NO! That card is taken out of the system and the bill is rejected.
--
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:40 PM
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Re: Take a deep look into your notebook!

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:02:53 +0100, "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>news:tpgnc59o7lo7tsqk5cquh6pro865saamad@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:56:29 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>>>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax.c om...
>>>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never give
>>>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the information,
>>>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING ****
>>>>>
>>>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop them
>>>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the bill.
>>>>
>>>> It is true.
>>>>
>>>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the card
>>>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot charge
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents anyone
>>>from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority. The credit
>>>card company never deletes the account but merely marks it as dormant.
>>>Since credit card debits are initiated from the debitors end, the amount
>>>will still be debited against the card. The card issuer will either
>>>transfer the debit to any credit card subsequently issued, or send the
>>>holder of the card a bill if no further card was issued (and their debt
>>>collectors if necessary).
>>>
>>>The only way to stop a continuous credit card authority is to write to the
>>>debiting organisation formally cancelling it. Writing to the credit card
>>>issuer is not sufficient in itself. If the debitor still debits the card
>>>then you have to recover you money from them, the credit card issuer has
>>>no
>>>liability beyond anything contained in your country's legislation.
>>>
>>>As far as the UK is concerned, although direct debits are covered by the
>>>direct debit guarantee (where the bank have to recredit any debits once
>>>the
>>>mandate is cancelled), continuous credit card authorities have no such
>>>protection.

>>
>> The credit card number is not valid anymore. IT IS BLOCKED.
>>

>
>Please yourself.


Whatever you mean by that, but these are the facts.
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On the subject of killing the ability to block charges to a credit card
by canceling the credit card ....

Keep in mind that, first, we are dealing with different legal jurisdictions.

And, second, we are dealing with different credit card issuers.

NO credit card issuer is REQUIRED (in the US, at least) to honor ANY
particular charge; they can always deny a charge. But, that said, they
can also honor any charge and bill the card holder, even if the card
itself is expired (there normally is fine print in the "card holder
agreement" that makes the card holder legally obligated to pay such
bills ***IF*** they are issued).

Bottom line ... two people can state diametrically opposite positions as
to the consequences of canceling a card or notifying the card issuer to
dishonor certain charges .... and both can be right. In their
respective jurisdictions, for cards issued by their respective financial
institution.
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:47:47 -0400, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com>
wrote:

>On the subject of killing the ability to block charges to a credit card
>by canceling the credit card ....
>
>Keep in mind that, first, we are dealing with different legal jurisdictions.
>
>And, second, we are dealing with different credit card issuers.
>
>NO credit card issuer is REQUIRED (in the US, at least) to honor ANY
>particular charge; they can always deny a charge. But, that said, they
>can also honor any charge and bill the card holder, even if the card
>itself is expired (there normally is fine print in the "card holder
>agreement" that makes the card holder legally obligated to pay such
>bills ***IF*** they are issued).


If this is so, then the credit card bankers are even more criminal than we ever
guessed.
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"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
news:upjqc5ljnmvmduo11835qh23p480ntv687@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:02:06 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>news:dvgnc5dmkcm6hbd592dq6bug2uq87ngb6d@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:45:36 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:4acaf815$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:cbvbc55g170403gtg7s8fqgqqn42r9td00@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:19:26 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
>>>>>> <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Happy Oyster" <happy.oyster@ariplex.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:mq22c5hjco5f2prq6i0a60oop0f1188f99@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>> http://www.nickveasey.com/
>>>>>>>> **** WARNING **** The web-hoster Globat.com steals money from your
>>>>>>>> credit card account. If you are a customer of Globat.com, never
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> them any credit card information. If you can't erase the
>>>>>>>> information,
>>>>>>>> then do delete the old card and get a new one! **** WARNING
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If true (which I doubt), cancelling the old credit card won't stop
>>>>>>>them
>>>>>>>charging it, nor stop the card company expecting you to settle the
>>>>>>>bill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They cannot charge the old card because that one was deleted by the
>>>>>> card
>>>>>> company. As Globat does not have the new card number, they cannot
>>>>>> charge
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a commonly held myth that cancelling a credit card prevents
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> from charging to it under a continuous credit card authority.
>>>>
>>>>I should also add that relying on the offered credit card to go outside
>>>>of
>>>>its expiry date doesn't always work either. Many larger organisations
>>>>have
>>>>to ability to use a special expiry date code once the real expiry date
>>>>has
>>>>passed. Smaller organisations have to find out the new expiry date.
>>>>
>>>>Even today, one organisation still charges me $9.95 per month for a
>>>>service
>>>>that I haven't used for over 5 years, charging it to a card number that
>>>>'hasn't existed' for at least 3 years. And it would certainly have
>>>>expired
>>>>by now. The only reason I can't cancel it is that the organisation
>>>>concerned doesn't publish either phone numbers or addresses - you have
>>>>to
>>>>do
>>>>everything on line (and cancelling an account isn't one of the things
>>>>you
>>>>can do).
>>>
>>> Do they get the money or not? If they do, then just close the bank
>>> aacount
>>> and
>>> open a new one.
>>>

>>
>>It's a credit card. They still send the monthly bill.

>
> NO! That card is taken out of the system and the bill is rejected.
>


You may care to think that, but it is not the way it works.


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