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Old 01-25-2007, 10:15 PM
Barry Watzman
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Re: How does wireless lan work?

Dial-up and wireless LAN are two totally different things. It's like
asking what kind of tires you put on your car to make it fly (or drive
across rivers).

To use dial-up you need a modem. This can be internal, PC Card or
external (serial or USB). If you don't have one, they are fairly cheap,
should be able to get one for $20 or less.

To use a wireless LAN your relative would normally need a cable or DSL
service provider. Really, he should do that anyway, Dial-up is a fossil
and should not be used by anyone who has inexpensive cable or DSL
available, and in most cases you can get DSL for less than dial-up
(usually for $12.95 to $18.95 per month).

Don't use someone else's wireless without their permission. While it
may be perfectly possible, in most states it's a felony and you can
actually end up going to prison.


pakihaki22******.ca wrote:
> I have a new laptop with wireless lan. I notice I can pick up other op
> peoples connection in my apartment building. Im giving the
> computer to a relative who only has a dial up connection and
> I dont think the laptop has a dial up modem. I was wondering
> what I need to do to get wireless lan to pick up the dial up connection
>

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Old 01-26-2007, 03:15 AM
pakihaki22@yahoo.ca
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Re: How does wireless lan work?

I dont really get the analogy because special tires allow you to drive
on water and I'm sure there are special tires for getting off the
ground.

My brother sees computers as unnecessary expense or complication of
life so he will likely stick with free dial up.
Hopefully he will become skilled and stealing broadband from his
neighbours or libraries, etc..

Thanks for the help though I have become depressed over
being burdened by idiot relatives.


On Jan 25, 9:54 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Dial-up and wireless LAN are two totally different things. It's like
> asking what kind of tires you put on your car to make it fly (or drive
> across rivers).
>
> To use dial-up you need a modem. This can be internal, PC Card or
> external (serial or USB). If you don't have one, they are fairly cheap,
> should be able to get one for $20 or less.
>
> To use a wireless LAN your relative would normally need a cable or DSL
> service provider. Really, he should do that anyway, Dial-up is a fossil
> and should not be used by anyone who has inexpensive cable or DSL
> available, and in most cases you can get DSL for less than dial-up
> (usually for $12.95 to $18.95 per month).
>
> Don't use someone else's wireless without their permission. While it
> may be perfectly possible, in most states it's a felony and you can
> actually end up going to prison.
>
>
>
> pakihak...******.ca wrote:
> > I have a new laptop with wireless lan. I notice I can pick up other op
> > peoples connection in my apartment building. Im giving the
> > computer to a relative who only has a dial up connection and
> > I dont think the laptop has a dial up modem. I was wondering
> > what I need to do to get wireless lan to pick up the dial up connection- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


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Old 01-26-2007, 03:15 AM
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Re: How does wireless lan work?

Your brother (and you) should be aware that using someone else's wireless
internet connection without their permission is morally wrong and is a
crime.

Honu

<pakihaki22******.ca> wrote in message
news:1169799136.980705.25730@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com...
>I dont really get the analogy because special tires allow you to drive
> on water and I'm sure there are special tires for getting off the
> ground.
>
> My brother sees computers as unnecessary expense or complication of
> life so he will likely stick with free dial up.
> Hopefully he will become skilled and stealing broadband from his
> neighbours or libraries, etc..
>
> Thanks for the help though I have become depressed over
> being burdened by idiot relatives.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:54 pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> Dial-up and wireless LAN are two totally different things. It's like
>> asking what kind of tires you put on your car to make it fly (or drive
>> across rivers).
>>
>> To use dial-up you need a modem. This can be internal, PC Card or
>> external (serial or USB). If you don't have one, they are fairly cheap,
>> should be able to get one for $20 or less.
>>
>> To use a wireless LAN your relative would normally need a cable or DSL
>> service provider. Really, he should do that anyway, Dial-up is a fossil
>> and should not be used by anyone who has inexpensive cable or DSL
>> available, and in most cases you can get DSL for less than dial-up
>> (usually for $12.95 to $18.95 per month).
>>
>> Don't use someone else's wireless without their permission. While it
>> may be perfectly possible, in most states it's a felony and you can
>> actually end up going to prison.
>>
>>
>>
>> pakihak...******.ca wrote:
>> > I have a new laptop with wireless lan. I notice I can pick up other op
>> > peoples connection in my apartment building. Im giving the
>> > computer to a relative who only has a dial up connection and
>> > I dont think the laptop has a dial up modem. I was wondering
>> > what I need to do to get wireless lan to pick up the dial up
>> > connection- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

>



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Old 01-26-2007, 08:00 PM
Sheldon
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Re: How does wireless lan work?


"Hertz_Donut" <nowhere@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:nvqdnV9l-LfTJiTYnZ2dnUVZ_rKvnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net...
> Your brother (and you) should be aware that using someone else's wireless
> internet connection without their permission is morally wrong and is a
> crime.
>
> Honu
>

While I don't do it, I'm not so sure about it being a crime or immoral. The
waves are just hanging out there much like a Starbucks or anyplace that has
public access. It would be wrong to use an open signal and try to break
into that person's computer or network, or compromise their network in any
way. Otherwise, I think it's more like when an apple falls from your
neighbor's tree into your yard.

BTW, there are some limitations to using someone else's signal, especially
if you have an e-mail account that is not Web based.

Also, it's really up to the person who has the signal to encrypt it. In my
state if you leave your keys in your car and it's stolen, YOU get a ticket
and are held partially responsible for the theft of your car.


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Old 01-27-2007, 09:15 PM
Barry Watzman
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Re: How does wireless lan work?

Re: "I'm not so sure about it being a crime"

It is. People have gone to jail. The laws vary by state, but it's
definitely illegal in many states under various statues (some are
computer specific, some (theft of service) are not).


Sheldon wrote:
> "Hertz_Donut" <nowhere@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:nvqdnV9l-LfTJiTYnZ2dnUVZ_rKvnZ2d@hawaiiantel.net...
>> Your brother (and you) should be aware that using someone else's wireless
>> internet connection without their permission is morally wrong and is a
>> crime.
>>
>> Honu
>>

> While I don't do it, I'm not so sure about it being a crime or immoral. The
> waves are just hanging out there much like a Starbucks or anyplace that has
> public access. It would be wrong to use an open signal and try to break
> into that person's computer or network, or compromise their network in any
> way. Otherwise, I think it's more like when an apple falls from your
> neighbor's tree into your yard.
>
> BTW, there are some limitations to using someone else's signal, especially
> if you have an e-mail account that is not Web based.
>
> Also, it's really up to the person who has the signal to encrypt it. In my
> state if you leave your keys in your car and it's stolen, YOU get a ticket
> and are held partially responsible for the theft of your car.
>
>

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