I need netbook for reading many pdf files and writing in MS word, listening
music.
Does it 10.1" screen suffice for reading and writing?
I mean is it not to little?

On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:06:50 +0200, "Brus" <bloomdalium******.com>
wrote:

>I need netbook for reading many pdf files and writing in MS word, listening
>music.
>Does it 10.1" screen suffice for reading and writing?
>I mean is it not to little?
>

That depends completely on what to YOU is too little. Many find it
acceptable, others do not. Try one out in a store before you buy
one.... bring your PDF book on a USB flash drive and ask to see what
it looks like on some of the demos. For me, the glossy screens on
most netbooks are a turnoff, so I went for an "older" model (Samsung
NC-10) that has a non-glossy screen. (The NC-10 has poor speakers,
though, so unless you want to use a headset, it's probably not the one
you want if listening to music is high on your priorities.)

My opinion is that you will likely be better off with a full-size
(albeit maybe as small as 13") laptop.

You are paying too much attention to the physical dimensions of the
screen (in inches) and not enough to the resolution. The resolution of
most 8" (8.9", actually) netbooks are exactly the same as most 10"
netbooks. And this resolution is a problem, and it's the resolution,
not the physical size, that I personally find to be the major issue.

I know some will disagree with this, but Netbooks are not general
purpose laptops. I view netbooks as primarily for doing web browsing &
E-Mail while traveling. CAN they do more? Sure, but there are many
things that they can do but do not do well, some things that they can't
do at all, and with MOST things .... sure, they CAN do them, but doing
them on a netbook won't be any fun.


Brus wrote:
> I need netbook for reading many pdf files and writing in MS word, listening
> music.
> Does it 10.1" screen suffice for reading and writing?
> I mean is it not to little?
>
>

In news:h8gkfj$rdh$1@news.eternal-september.org,
Barry Watzman typed on Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:06:54 -0400:
> My opinion is that you will likely be better off with a full-size
> (albeit maybe as small as 13") laptop.
>
> You are paying too much attention to the physical dimensions of the
> screen (in inches) and not enough to the resolution. The resolution
> of most 8" (8.9", actually) netbooks are exactly the same as most 10"
> netbooks. And this resolution is a problem, and it's the resolution,
> not the physical size, that I personally find to be the major issue.
>
> I know some will disagree with this, but Netbooks are not general
> purpose laptops. I view netbooks as primarily for doing web browsing
> & E-Mail while traveling. CAN they do more? Sure, but there are many
> things that they can do but do not do well, some things that they
> can't do at all, and with MOST things .... sure, they CAN do them,
> but doing them on a netbook won't be any fun.

I am totally different and on the other side of the spectrum. I love
netbooks and I usually rather use a netbook than anything else. I have
four (used to have five and gave one to my nephew) 7 inch netbooks (Asus
EeePC 700 series) which sports the speakers right where they are
supposed to be. Right along side of the screen. One of the best sounding
netbooks out there. And that is very important to me.

Yes I use netbooks for the web, email, newsgroups, PDFs, multimedia,
etc. A bit slow on the video conversions, but it does work nonetheless.
<grin>

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

"Brus" <bloomdalium******.com> wrote in
news:h8gguf$5h0$1@ss408.t-com.hr:

> I need netbook for reading many pdf files and writing in MS word,
> listening music.
> Does it 10.1" screen suffice for reading and writing?

It's fine. If it's not, there's a XVGA socket to plug your high powered
projection unit into the side of it for a little bigger picture...say 4
meters wide?


> I mean is it not to little?
>
>
>

Your trouble with the music is they all have HORRIBLE internal tiny
speakers that are totally useless. But, they support Bluetooth A2DP and
sound beautiful hooked up to my Motorola S9HD Bluetooth headset.



--
Larry
Samsung NC10 "T"...added touchscreen.
It only costs a little more to go first class.....

"Brus" <bloomdalium******.com> wrote in message
news:h8gguf$5h0$1@ss408.t-com.hr...

> I need netbook for reading many pdf files and writing in MS word,
listening
> music. Does it 10.1" screen suffice for reading and writing?
> I mean is it not to little?

Two wholly independent factors determine the suitability of netbooks.

1. Monitor: the fonts and colours now available can make even
quite small displays legible without strain (e.g. Asus Eee.)

2. Keyboard: touch typists accustomed to writing at length
will find the miniature keyboard intolerable and slow. I.e.
touch typists need the full-size keyboard for which their
hands are already trained.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

I don't know that I agree with you that even a 10" screen is fine.
Depends on the user and what they are doing.

But, as to the comment below ... the Acer Aspire One has a speaker
located next to the hard drive. If driven with the wrong songs at high
volume, it can corrupt or destroy the hard drive. There is at least one
known song that will do it every time if the volume is turned up all the
way (it's a real song, not something created for this purpose, but I
recall it's "heavy metal"). It's not a problem at normal volume levels.
The mechanism isn't clear; it could be magnetic, or it could be
acoustical.


Larry wrote:

>
> Your trouble with the music is they all have HORRIBLE internal tiny
> speakers that are totally useless. But, they support Bluetooth A2DP and
> sound beautiful hooked up to my Motorola S9HD Bluetooth headset.
>
>
>

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:24:19 -0400, Barry Watzman
<WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>I don't know that I agree with you that even a 10" screen is fine.
>Depends on the user and what they are doing.
>
>But, as to the comment below ... the Acer Aspire One has a speaker
>located next to the hard drive. If driven with the wrong songs at high
>volume, it can corrupt or destroy the hard drive. There is at least one
>known song that will do it every time if the volume is turned up all the
>way (it's a real song, not something created for this purpose, but I
>recall it's "heavy metal"). It's not a problem at normal volume levels.
> The mechanism isn't clear; it could be magnetic, or it could be
>acoustical.
>
>
>Larry wrote:
>
>>
>> Your trouble with the music is they all have HORRIBLE internal tiny
>> speakers that are totally useless. But, they support Bluetooth A2DP and
>> sound beautiful hooked up to my Motorola S9HD Bluetooth headset.
>>
>>
>>
I have used the HP Mini netbook (from Verizon) for 4 weeks before
returning it. It was lightweight and good for traveling--but even
then, web browsing was difficult and e-mail even more so. Previously
I had a Thinkpad X40, and now I have a new Thinkpad x200. Both of
these (12") machines have a FULL size keyboard. And I am a touch
typist so I could not use the netbook without great frustration. In
addition, I am well over 60 and I do not tolerate well the netbook
minuteness.
On the other hand I csn see where much younger people who do not
touch-type would be quite happy with a netbook. As Barry so wisely
said, the netbook is really not a fully-functioning notebook.
Mahl

In news:52fqa5p1jnmkkl5u06tbhtq55h6dg89oi3@4ax.com,
Mahlon Wagner typed on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:43:20 -0400:
> I have used the HP Mini netbook (from Verizon) for 4 weeks before
> returning it. It was lightweight and good for traveling--but even
> then, web browsing was difficult and e-mail even more so. Previously
> I had a Thinkpad X40, and now I have a new Thinkpad x200. Both of
> these (12") machines have a FULL size keyboard. And I am a touch
> typist so I could not use the netbook without great frustration. In
> addition, I am well over 60 and I do not tolerate well the netbook
> minuteness.
> On the other hand I csn see where much younger people who do not
> touch-type would be quite happy with a netbook. As Barry so wisely
> said, the netbook is really not a fully-functioning notebook.
> Mahl

Well I am in my 50's and I learned to type on an old Remington Model 18
typewriter. And I have no clue how somebody could ever touch type on
that beast! As you had to move a key more than an inch and move each key
with much force to make a good impression. I still have it too, but
never use it anymore.

The good news is that it had taught me how to type on virtually
anything. And I still smack the keys very hard (a very old habit). And I
never, I repeat I never had a single keyboard ever fail on me! My theory
is smacking the keys very hard must keep the contacts very clean and
doesn't harm them at all. I have had keyboards for decades and they
still work just like the day I bought them.

I have bought used keyboards and used other people's keyboards that the
keys are hard to register. I don't know if they spilled something on
them or what? But my key smacking doesn't normally improve those
keyboards very much.

So I normally type with one, two, or three fingers per hand and netbooks
are very easy for me. What is even very nice is you can hold the netbook
with one hand and type with the other. This is very hard to do with a
full size keyboard as my hand can't reach from one end to the other
without moving the hand back and forth.

So I don't think it is just the younger people that might like them.
I've never been one of those 120 WPM typers, but I can hold 40 WPM
pretty well. Not great, but pretty average I guess.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:12:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> My theory
>is smacking the keys very hard must keep the contacts very clean and
>doesn't harm them at all.

That is very funny as for a long time now nearly all keyboards work with
capacitive switches and do not have real contacts anymore.
--
"Toll auch der Trick mit dem Eisen,
um Gottes Macht zu beweisen.
Beileisen ließ Gott nun schwimmen,
um neue Fans zu gewinnen." http://www.reimbibel.de

In news:90iqa55pqhrl5hr8ujl76f87b6qpvim5p5@4ax.com,
Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:30:34 +0200:
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:12:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> My theory
>> is smacking the keys very hard must keep the contacts very clean and
>> doesn't harm them at all.
>
> That is very funny as for a long time now nearly all keyboards work
> with capacitive switches and do not have real contacts anymore.

Which is funnier since capacitive keyboards hasn't been around for
decades either. So nobody knows (unless you are a time traveler) whether
or not they can hold up under decades worth of use or not. <grin>

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:54:38 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>In news:90iqa55pqhrl5hr8ujl76f87b6qpvim5p5@4ax.com,
>Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:30:34 +0200:
>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:12:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>>> My theory
>>> is smacking the keys very hard must keep the contacts very clean and
>>> doesn't harm them at all.
>>
>> That is very funny as for a long time now nearly all keyboards work
>> with capacitive switches and do not have real contacts anymore.
>
>Which is funnier since capacitive keyboards hasn't been around for
>decades either. So nobody knows (unless you are a time traveler) whether
>or not they can hold up under decades worth of use or not. <grin>

The lifetime of the plastic keyboards is ver limited. They are designed as
throw-away-products.
--
"Toll auch der Trick mit dem Eisen,
um Gottes Macht zu beweisen.
Beileisen ließ Gott nun schwimmen,
um neue Fans zu gewinnen." http://www.reimbibel.de

In news:2rjqa5pvfqjpqiu4obk1uecaqo44u09ksb@4ax.com,
Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:01:10 +0200:
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:54:38 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> In news:90iqa55pqhrl5hr8ujl76f87b6qpvim5p5@4ax.com,
>> Happy Oyster typed on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:30:34 +0200:
>>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:12:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My theory
>>>> is smacking the keys very hard must keep the contacts very clean
>>>> and doesn't harm them at all.
>>>
>>> That is very funny as for a long time now nearly all keyboards work
>>> with capacitive switches and do not have real contacts anymore.
>>
>> Which is funnier since capacitive keyboards hasn't been around for
>> decades either. So nobody knows (unless you are a time traveler)
>> whether or not they can hold up under decades worth of use or not.
>> <grin>
>
> The lifetime of the plastic keyboards is ver limited. They are
> designed as throw-away-products.

So they say. My Micro Innovations keyboard claims they can take 10
million keypresses. I don't have a counter, but it is the one I use most
of the time. And I don't have a problem replacing a keyboard every 5 to
10 years. But it hasn't happened yet. <grin>

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2

Actually, no, that is not true of most keyboards ("nearly all keyboards
work with capacitive switches")

Most keyboards now have two layers of mylar with conductive silver paint
on them forming the contacts (in fact, the "two layers" are usually a
single sheet of mylar folded in half with the conductive paint on what
becomes the "inside" of this fold). A 3rd layer of mylar is between
these two and holds them apart (barely, by only the thickness of the
center layer), but the center layer has holes in it at the contact
points. Pressing the keys presses the two outer layers together, their
conductive silver paint touches and the contact is made.

This is [by far] the most common arrangement because it is dirt cheap to
make. There are other mechanisms, including capacitance, but this has
become the most common way that keyboards are made in low-cost ("cheap")
keyboards, which is (unfortunately), most keyboards.

[At the other extreme, unicomp still makes new "IBM buckling spring"
keyboards .... but few people want to spend $70 for a keyboard.]

[the web site is at www.pckeyboard.com]


Happy Oyster wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:12:37 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> My theory
>> is smacking the keys very hard must keep the contacts very clean and
>> doesn't harm them at all.
>
> That is very funny as for a long time now nearly all keyboards work with
> capacitive switches and do not have real contacts anymore.

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in news:h8jkdc$c2v$1@news.eternal-
september.org:

> So they say. My Micro Innovations keyboard claims they can take 10
> million keypresses. I don't have a counter, but it is the one I use most
> of the time. And I don't have a problem replacing a keyboard every 5 to
> 10 years. But it hasn't happened yet. <grin>
>
> --
> Bill
> Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2
>
>

I go through a keyboard every 6-8 months, here. I wear a saddle in the
middle of the spacebar plastic so smooth it shines like a mirror. I wear
the top off many keys, especially rstlne so you must be a touch typist
because most keys have no lettering on them left.

Thank goodness people keep turning in perfectly nice keyboards to the local
thriftshops that look like they never typed on them...no wear at all. I'm
typing this on a Dynex multimedia keyboard with lots of little command
buttons down both sides that come in handy. It boots WinXP's calculator
from a special key that calls it up, etc. Even Firefox has a key! I paid
99c. It's a USB keyboard, so if I'm going to use my Samsung NC-10 for long
documents, or my little Nokia N800 Linux tablet, I simply plug it in and
type. Duhh...(c;]





--
Larry