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Old 08-11-2009, 04:10 PM
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Re: Buy new laptop with Vista and then downgrade to XP, but how?

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Barry Watzman wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Barry Watzman wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> A problem that stops many people dead in their tracks right at the
>>> beginning is that the XP setup program does not support SATA hard
>>> drives. SOME laptops "emulate" IDE drives from SATA drives in the
>>> BIOS (either unconditionally or as an option), but in other cases,
>>> you need what is called an "F6 Driver" (see wikipedia). If you
>>> don't know what
>>> an F6 driver is, then you probably don't have the knowledge and
>>> ability necessary to do this yourself (although not all laptops
>>> require an F6 driver, not knowing what that is suggests someone
>>> whose knowledge of operating systems probably isn't as great as
>>> this type of task is likely to require).

>>
>> I take take that to mean that some laptops *don't* have the option to
>> emulate IDE drives and must be run as ACHI? The newest machines I've
>> played with are both over two years old and they both have the
>> option in BIOS. Can you confirm that some laptops don't have the
>> option?

> Yes, some laptops do not do the IDE emulation at all, either
> unconditionally or through a BIOS option. AHCI is the only mode, and
> you must use an F6 driver to install XP on such laptops. However, an
> F6 driver REQUIRES a floppy drive, and some of the subject laptops
> don't have that either (they do support USB floppy drives, in all
> cases that I have seen). I've dealt with both Gateway and Toshiba
> models on which AHCI was the only mode.
>

Yes, all machines that I've seen will accept a USB floppy too if / when
inserting an F6 driver (or the driver can be slipstreamed into the install
disc..).

Could you please let me know the models of Gateway and Tosh that don't do
IDE emulation please? It's something I want to look into.

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Old 08-11-2009, 04:30 PM
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Re: Buy new laptop with Vista and then downgrade to XP, but how?

Understand, I've only seen a handful of the thousands of models of
Gateway and Toshiba laptops. The Gateway MT6711 didn't do emulation. I
don't remember the models of the Toshiba laptops that I worked with that
didn't.


~misfit~ wrote:

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> Could you please let me know the models of Gateway and Tosh that don't do
> IDE emulation please? It's something I want to look into.
>
> Cheers,

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Old 08-13-2009, 04:50 PM
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Re: Buy new laptop with Vista and then downgrade to XP, but how?

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Barry Watzman wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
>> Could you please let me know the models of Gateway and Tosh that
>> don't do IDE emulation please? It's something I want to look into.
>>

> Understand, I've only seen a handful of the thousands of models of
> Gateway and Toshiba laptops. The Gateway MT6711 didn't do emulation. I
> don't remember the models of the Toshiba laptops that I worked with
> that didn't.
>

Ok. Yeah, I just found your thread on techtalkz.com about it from 2 years
ago.
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Shaun.

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warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.



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Old 08-17-2009, 02:50 AM
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Re: Buy new laptop with Vista and then downgrade to XP, but how?

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Barry Watzman wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
>> Could you please let me know the models of Gateway and Tosh that
>> don't do IDE emulation please? It's something I want to look into.
>>

> Understand, I've only seen a handful of the thousands of models of
> Gateway and Toshiba laptops. The Gateway MT6711 didn't do emulation. I
> don't remember the models of the Toshiba laptops that I worked with
> that didn't.
>

Ok. Yeah, I just found your thread on techtalkz.com about it from 2 years
ago.
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.



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Old 08-26-2009, 12:45 AM
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Re: Buy new laptop with Vista and then downgrade to XP, but how?

Yes you can buy the new laptop only with the free Linux, it may save your 60 pounds, you can customer order it in Dell.com or newegg.com
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