This may not be the best group to post this in, but .....

Windows 7 comes out 10/22. Probably not news to anyone.

From now until July 11th, a few places are participating in a Microsoft
"pre-order" program where you can buy a copy at a VERY steep discount
(50% to 70% off; $49 for the $119 Home Premium Upgrade, for example).
Ships on 10/22.

So I went to www.BestBuy.com/Windows7preorder to place an order, and
there are two SKU's ... Home Premium and Business.

Shouldn't there be four SKUs?

-Home Premium 32-bit
-Home Premium 64-bit
-Business 32-bit
-Business 64-bit

???

[Or does each package possibly include both, but you can use one or the
other?]

Barry,
Each SKU includes both 32 and 64 bit.

Terry

"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h28abp$8n8$1@news.motzarella.org...
> This may not be the best group to post this in, but .....
>
> Windows 7 comes out 10/22. Probably not news to anyone.
>
> From now until July 11th, a few places are participating in a Microsoft
> "pre-order" program where you can buy a copy at a VERY steep discount (50%
> to 70% off; $49 for the $119 Home Premium Upgrade, for example). Ships on
> 10/22.
>
> So I went to www.BestBuy.com/Windows7preorder to place an order, and there
> are two SKU's ... Home Premium and Business.
>
> Shouldn't there be four SKUs?
>
> -Home Premium 32-bit
> -Home Premium 64-bit
> -Business 32-bit
> -Business 64-bit
>
> ???
>
> [Or does each package possibly include both, but you can use one or the
> other?]

tc wrote:
> Barry,
> Each SKU includes both 32 and 64 bit.
>
> Terry
>
>> This may not be the best group to post this in, but .....
>>
>> Windows 7 comes out 10/22. Probably not news to anyone.
>>
>> From now until July 11th, a few places are participating in a Microsoft
>> "pre-order" program where you can buy a copy at a VERY steep discount (50%
>> to 70% off; $49 for the $119 Home Premium Upgrade, for example). Ships on
>> 10/22.
>>
>> So I went to www.BestBuy.com/Windows7preorder to place an order, and there
>> are two SKU's ... Home Premium and Business.
>>
>> Shouldn't there be four SKUs?
>>
>> -Home Premium 32-bit
>> -Home Premium 64-bit
>> -Business 32-bit
>> -Business 64-bit
>>
>> ???
>>
>> [Or does each package possibly include both, but you can use one or the
>> other?]

Agreeing with Terry, there is a FAQ at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy...email-faq.aspx

Q: Will I get 32-bit or 64-bit discs?

A: You’ll get both. Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional packaged
products include both 32- and 64-bit discs.

One of the other questions includes the link to the upgrade adviser.

Aaron

Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in news:h28abp$8n8$1
@news.motzarella.org:

> From now until July 11th, a few places are participating in a Microsoft
> "pre-order" program where you can buy a copy at a VERY steep discount
> (50% to 70% off; $49 for the $119 Home Premium Upgrade, for example).
> Ships on 10/22.
>
>

Beta testers always get big discounts. It makes up for all those little
crashes right after you've typed in the 12 page report it was writing to
disk when it crashed.


--
-----
Larry

If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?

This is not a beta test program, it has nothing to do with beta testing
or beta testers.

It's available right now to anyone at Best Buy and at Newegg (and about
6 other places).

The discount is HUGE ($49 instead of $119) and it is ONLY available
until July 11th.

Larry wrote:
>
>> From now until July 11th, a few places are participating in a Microsoft
>> "pre-order" program where you can buy a copy at a VERY steep discount
>> (50% to 70% off; $49 for the $119 Home Premium Upgrade, for example).
>> Ships on 10/22.
>
> Beta testers always get big discounts. It makes up for all those little
> crashes right after you've typed in the 12 page report it was writing to
> disk when it crashed.
>
>

Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>This is not a beta test program, it has nothing to do with beta testing
>or beta testers.

You've been taken in again Barry. That was just a joke. Another dig at
your Windows religion by your friendly local Linux antagonizer. But
you missed it. Too bad for him. But.....judging from past new Windows
releases there's probably some truth in what he says... ;)

>It's available right now to anyone at Best Buy and at Newegg (and about
>6 other places).
>
>The discount is HUGE ($49 instead of $119) and it is ONLY available
>until July 11th.
>
>Larry wrote:
>>
>>> From now until July 11th, a few places are participating in a Microsoft
>>> "pre-order" program where you can buy a copy at a VERY steep discount
>>> (50% to 70% off; $49 for the $119 Home Premium Upgrade, for example).
>>> Ships on 10/22.
>>
>> Beta testers always get big discounts. It makes up for all those little
>> crashes right after you've typed in the 12 page report it was writing to
>> disk when it crashed.
>>
>>

AJL wrote:
> Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> This is not a beta test program, it has nothing to do with beta testing
>> or beta testers.
>
> You've been taken in again Barry. That was just a joke. Another dig at
> your Windows religion by your friendly local Linux antagonizer. But
> you missed it. Too bad for him. But.....judging from past new Windows
> releases there's probably some truth in what he says... ;)
>
>> It's available right now to anyone at Best Buy and at Newegg (and about
>> 6 other places).
>>
>> The discount is HUGE ($49 instead of $119) and it is ONLY available
>> until July 11th.
>>
>> Larry wrote:
>>>> From now until July 11th, a few places are participating in a Microsoft
>>>> "pre-order" program where you can buy a copy at a VERY steep discount
>>>> (50% to 70% off; $49 for the $119 Home Premium Upgrade, for example).
>>>> Ships on 10/22.
>>> Beta testers always get big discounts. It makes up for all those little
>>> crashes right after you've typed in the 12 page report it was writing to
>>> disk when it crashed.

Funny running beta rock solid for 4 months not a hitch, how bout that.
RC goes on tomorrow as the beta license will start nagging then.

ggwillikers <noone@youknow.com> wrote:

>running [W7] beta rock solid for 4 months not a hitch, how bout that.

That's a good sign. I was going to buy my new 17" laptop early with
Vista installed and then get the free W7 upgrade. But after thinking
about it awhile I believe I will wait and get it with W7 installed. It
may save me a few upgrade headaches. Course if any fantastic laptop
deals come along before then I may opt for the headaches... ;)

AJL wrote:
> ggwillikers <noone@youknow.com> wrote:
>
>> running [W7] beta rock solid for 4 months not a hitch, how bout that.
>
> That's a good sign. I was going to buy my new 17" laptop early with
> Vista installed and then get the free W7 upgrade. But after thinking
> about it awhile I believe I will wait and get it with W7 installed. It
> may save me a few upgrade headaches. Course if any fantastic laptop
> deals come along before then I may opt for the headaches... ;)

I get the impression that Microsoft is going to try to get Vista out of
the loop rather quickly. Hopefully the UPGRADE experience is an aesy
process.

ggwillikers wrote:
> AJL wrote:
>> ggwillikers <noone@youknow.com> wrote:
>>
>>> running [W7] beta rock solid for 4 months not a hitch, how bout that.
>>
>> That's a good sign. I was going to buy my new 17" laptop early with
>> Vista installed and then get the free W7 upgrade. But after thinking
>> about it awhile I believe I will wait and get it with W7 installed. It
>> may save me a few upgrade headaches. Course if any fantastic laptop
>> deals come along before then I may opt for the headaches... ;)
>
> I get the impression that Microsoft is going to try to get Vista out of
> the loop rather quickly. Hopefully the UPGRADE experience is an aesy
> process.
I look at Vista as another Windows ME. MSC made a huge mistake way back
when with ME and did the same with Vista.

We won't know till 4Q09 or 1Q10 if W7 will be a success.

I played with a W7 Beta and some of my old favorite applications would
not install. If this is the norm on GA code MSC may be creating another
ME/Vista once again.

It's bad enough customers have to buy the same old Windows OS over and
over again, but if they have to do the same with application software
they will not be happy.

This is why I run Linux 99% of the time on all my hardware.

> but if they have to do the same with application software
> they will not be happy.
>
> This is why I run Linux 99% of the time on all my hardware.

This is contradictory. Anyway, since you only run 1 in 100 apps in Windows
you 1. Know nothing about it and 2. Don't need it anyway.

Vista is not one MS' greatest OS', but it's no ME, either. It's not
THAT bad.

Re: "We won't know till 4Q09 or 1Q10 if W7 will be a success."

I have to disagree on that, I think we know the answer to this now. The
experience with the beta versions of W7 has been so overwhelmingly
positive ... and I mean across the board, by pretty much all reviewers
in pretty much all regards ... that it's safe to conclude that W7 will
be a success. As to compatibility issues, there will always be some of
those, but I think that more things will install under W7 than under
Vista, and that is "natively", but for W7 Business & Ultimate, the
option of "XP Mode" also exists.


Clay Abrams wrote:
> ggwillikers wrote:
>> AJL wrote:
>>> ggwillikers <noone@youknow.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> running [W7] beta rock solid for 4 months not a hitch, how bout that.
>>> That's a good sign. I was going to buy my new 17" laptop early with
>>> Vista installed and then get the free W7 upgrade. But after thinking
>>> about it awhile I believe I will wait and get it with W7 installed. It
>>> may save me a few upgrade headaches. Course if any fantastic laptop
>>> deals come along before then I may opt for the headaches... ;)
>> I get the impression that Microsoft is going to try to get Vista out of
>> the loop rather quickly. Hopefully the UPGRADE experience is an aesy
>> process.
> I look at Vista as another Windows ME. MSC made a huge mistake way back
> when with ME and did the same with Vista.
>
> We won't know till 4Q09 or 1Q10 if W7 will be a success.
>
> I played with a W7 Beta and some of my old favorite applications would
> not install. If this is the norm on GA code MSC may be creating another
> ME/Vista once again.
>
> It's bad enough customers have to buy the same old Windows OS over and
> over again, but if they have to do the same with application software
> they will not be happy.
>
> This is why I run Linux 99% of the time on all my hardware.

Barry Watzman wrote:
> Vista is not one MS' greatest OS', but it's no ME, either. It's not
> THAT bad.
>
> Re: "We won't know till 4Q09 or 1Q10 if W7 will be a success."
>
> I have to disagree on that, I think we know the answer to this now. The
> experience with the beta versions of W7 has been so overwhelmingly
> positive ... and I mean across the board, by pretty much all reviewers
> in pretty much all regards ... that it's safe to conclude that W7 will
> be a success. As to compatibility issues, there will always be some of
> those, but I think that more things will install under W7 than under
> Vista, and that is "natively", but for W7 Business & Ultimate, the
> option of "XP Mode" also exists.
>
>
> Clay Abrams wrote:
>> ggwillikers wrote:
>>> AJL wrote:
>>>> ggwillikers <noone@youknow.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> running [W7] beta rock solid for 4 months not a hitch, how bout that.
>>>> That's a good sign. I was going to buy my new 17" laptop early with
>>>> Vista installed and then get the free W7 upgrade. But after thinking
>>>> about it awhile I believe I will wait and get it with W7 installed. It
>>>> may save me a few upgrade headaches. Course if any fantastic laptop
>>>> deals come along before then I may opt for the headaches... ;)
>>> I get the impression that Microsoft is going to try to get Vista out of
>>> the loop rather quickly. Hopefully the UPGRADE experience is an aesy
>>> process.
>> I look at Vista as another Windows ME. MSC made a huge mistake way back
>> when with ME and did the same with Vista.
>>
>> We won't know till 4Q09 or 1Q10 if W7 will be a success.
>>
>> I played with a W7 Beta and some of my old favorite applications would
>> not install. If this is the norm on GA code MSC may be creating another
>> ME/Vista once again.
>>
>> It's bad enough customers have to buy the same old Windows OS over and
>> over again, but if they have to do the same with application software
>> they will not be happy.
>>
>> This is why I run Linux 99% of the time on all my hardware.
I disagree. You are viewing it as a consumer not a corporate IS manager.

If you are an IS manager in a large company and have to buy you favorite
application time 100K, because it doesn't run of W7, then you will not
upgrade. This is what happened with Vista. Large companies cannot afford
to spend that kind of money in todays environment. Lets face it MSC make
their big bucks from the large spenders, not individual folks. When the
large companies world wide upgrade to W7, then it's a success. Many
companies and governments in Europe (especially Germany) have dropped
MSC in favor of Linux. It will be tough for MSC to even meet and exceed
the success of XP. Time will tell.

In news:N7mdnTLMkvipB9TXnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@wavecable.co m,
Clay Abrams typed on Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:53:08 -0700:
> I look at Vista as another Windows ME. MSC made a huge mistake way
> back when with ME and did the same with Vista.
>
> We won't know till 4Q09 or 1Q10 if W7 will be a success.
>
> I played with a W7 Beta and some of my old favorite applications would
> not install. If this is the norm on GA code MSC may be creating
> another ME/Vista once again.
>
> It's bad enough customers have to buy the same old Windows OS over and
> over again, but if they have to do the same with application software
> they will not be happy.
>
> This is why I run Linux 99% of the time on all my hardware.

Sounds like you never recompiled your own Linux kernel like you are
supposed to do for security updates. As if you did, you would find that
this breaks many of your Linux applications. So many Linux users never
update their OS with security updates.

And I have Xandros, Ubuntu, and Puppy Linux and not a single application
is available for these distros that I find useful. Although on the
Windows side, everything that I ever want or need for the past 10 years
runs under 2000/XP. Linux can't even keep my interest for a whole day,
let alone for 10 years. See the difference now?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP Home SP2

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>And I have Xandros,

I will agree that finding and installing Xandros applications for the
Eee PCs is difficult. But since the Eee PC comes new with around 40
apps, most *non-hobby* users will likely be able to do what they
bought the netbook for just fine.

>Ubuntu,

I currently have the latest version of Ubuntu installed (dual boot
with XP) on this Eee PC (1000HD) and it works fine.There were a few
things that had to be worked out but I doubt a fresh install of XP on
a strange netbook would have gone any better.

>and not a single application
>is available for these distros that I find useful.

I just checked the Ubuntu Synaptic package handler. It says there are
26000+ packages available for installation. Of those several thousand
are applications. Perhaps you are a bit too picky??... ;)

>Linux can't even keep my interest for a whole day...

OSs of course are a personal preference. But like warm beer you might
warm (pun intended) to Linux if you used it more often. With two OSs
on the *same* Eee PC you could make a good comparison. You could try
dual booting Linux with XP on your Eee PC as I do. That way you can
have the best of both worlds. But wait, with those dinky SSDs of yours
that would be difficult wouldn't it... ;)