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| Did I get lucky? (long) HP Pavilion dv9220 After a full year of intensive use as a replacement for a desktop I decide to give the poor thing a break. I get a new PC. I visit my nephew who has a disc with pics I need. I insert the disc in the HP, open Win Explore and attempt to read the disc. Suddenly the screen goes black, no blue screen, no sounds, no nothing. The start button does nothing. Blue glow at the power connection as normal. Try using the mostly charged battery. Nothing. No sound, no boot, no blue color behind the shortcut keys at the top of the keyboard as normal. I admire my shiny new doorstop. Take it home, plug it in, fiddle around with no better results. Decide to let it sit there with the battery in, plugged in, and maybe charge. It sits there, silently, doing nothing, as expected. Suddenly (what else?) I hear a 'snapping' sound from the direction of the laptop. I look at it and notice blue sparks (!) coming from under the middle of the keyboard. Using my years of experience in this kind of thing the first thing that flashes through my mind is "this isn't good." I unplug the unit. I continue to admire my shiny (and now dangerous) new doorstop. With nothing to lose (expired warranty) I decide to locate that HP manual shortcut I archived long ago. Surprisingly, I actually find it! I do have some experience with electronic equipment, mostly in coin operated arcade equipment, and in my many years of experience I learned that sparking was usually a sign of something bad happening with electronic circuitry. So, I decide to remove the keyboard and see just how many crispy resistors, transistors, board traces, etc. I can find. Don't know exactly what I will do when I find the burned parts, but I'm sure they're there. I remove the keyboard and the first thing I do is turn it over and inspect the bottom. Sure enough, on the clear plastic barrier sheet there is some 'smoky' looking residue right in the middle, as expected. I look at the now exposed chassis of the laptop and notice there are only a few small openings in it exposing the assorted parts inside. There IS a board under the small rectangular opening in the chassis. I inspect, expecting to find *something* burned. What I find is -nothing unusual. No burns, no crispy critter smell, nothing. Well, SOMETHING burned! Sparks don't appear out of nowhere. So, I do the only things I can do. I reseat anything that can be reseated, I use compressed air (hot breath, attempting not to spit on it) to clear any microscopic debris, and then brush any accessible surfaces with a soft brush. I notice nothing loose, no debris, no bit of errant solder, no dust bunnies, no rodent droppings, no spiders, not even any Cheeto crumbs or cat hairs. (Now the last IS surprising, my apartment has cat hair EVERYWHERE, despite my best efforts to keep it under control.) So, to make a long story even more boring than you imagined possible, I buttoned the thing up, plugged it in (while shielding my eyes) and waited for the expected small explosion, or at least an interesting light show. Nothing. I push the power button, it starts as if nothing had ever happened. It's worked perfectly for three months now. All I can imagine is that some kind of conductive debris shorted *something* and when I fiddled around inside I dislodged it. What is surprising about the incident is that the short was bad enough to cause sparking, and yet nothing got cooked. Anyone else have this kind of experience with a laptop? Alan |
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| Re: Did I get lucky? (long) In news:47cbfeea$0$1104$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, wtrplnet typed on Mon, 3 Mar 2008 05:35:56 -0800: > HP Pavilion dv9220 > > After a full year of intensive use as a replacement for a desktop I > decide to give the poor thing a break. I get a new PC. > > I visit my nephew who has a disc with pics I need. I insert the disc > in the HP, open Win Explore and attempt to read the disc. Suddenly > the screen goes black, no blue screen, no sounds, no nothing. The > start button does nothing. Blue glow at the power connection as > normal. Try using the mostly charged battery. Nothing. No sound, > no boot, no blue color behind the shortcut keys at the top of the > keyboard as normal. I admire my shiny new doorstop. > > Take it home, plug it in, fiddle around with no better results. Decide > to let it sit there with the battery in, plugged in, and maybe > charge. It sits there, silently, doing nothing, as expected. > > Suddenly (what else?) I hear a 'snapping' sound from the direction of > the laptop. I look at it and notice blue sparks (!) coming from > under the middle of the keyboard. Using my years of experience in > this kind of thing the first thing that flashes through my mind is > "this isn't good." I unplug the unit. I continue to admire my shiny > (and now dangerous) new doorstop. > With nothing to lose (expired warranty) I decide to locate that HP > manual shortcut I archived long ago. Surprisingly, I actually find > it! I do have some experience with electronic equipment, mostly in > coin operated arcade equipment, and in my many years of experience I > learned that sparking was usually a sign of something bad happening > with electronic circuitry. So, I decide to remove the keyboard and > see just how many crispy resistors, transistors, board traces, etc. I > can find. Don't know exactly what I will do when I find the burned > parts, but I'm sure they're there. > I remove the keyboard and the first thing I do is turn it over and > inspect the bottom. Sure enough, on the clear plastic barrier sheet > there is some 'smoky' looking residue right in the middle, as > expected. I look at the now exposed chassis of the laptop and notice > there are only a few small openings in it exposing the assorted parts > inside. There IS a board under the small rectangular opening in the > chassis. I inspect, expecting to find *something* burned. What I > find is -nothing unusual. No burns, no crispy critter smell, > nothing. Well, SOMETHING burned! Sparks don't appear out of nowhere. > > So, I do the only things I can do. I reseat anything that can be > reseated, I use compressed air (hot breath, attempting not to spit on > it) to clear any microscopic debris, and then brush any accessible > surfaces with a soft brush. I notice nothing loose, no debris, no > bit of errant solder, no dust bunnies, no rodent droppings, no > spiders, not even any Cheeto crumbs or cat hairs. (Now the last IS > surprising, my apartment has cat hair EVERYWHERE, despite my best > efforts to keep it under control.) > So, to make a long story even more boring than you imagined possible, > I buttoned the thing up, plugged it in (while shielding my eyes) and > waited for the expected small explosion, or at least an interesting > light show. > Nothing. > > I push the power button, it starts as if nothing had ever happened. > It's worked perfectly for three months now. > > All I can imagine is that some kind of conductive debris shorted > *something* and when I fiddled around inside I dislodged it. What is > surprising about the incident is that the short was bad enough to > cause sparking, and yet nothing got cooked. > > Anyone else have this kind of experience with a laptop? > > Alan Yes you did get very lucky! And yes, something could have fallen inside the laptop and had caused a short until you removed it. And yes, sparks can leave no trace they were never there. -- Bill |
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| Re: Did I get lucky? (long) Thanks for the entertaining story. Enjoy your good fortune. "wtrplnet" <wd12@YOUKNOWTHEDRILLexcite.com> wrote in message news:47cbfeea$0$1104$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > HP Pavilion dv9220 > > After a full year of intensive use as a replacement for a desktop I decide > to give the poor thing a break. I get a new PC. > > I visit my nephew who has a disc with pics I need. I insert the disc in > the HP, open Win Explore and attempt to read the disc. Suddenly the > screen goes black, no blue screen, no sounds, no nothing. The start > button does nothing. Blue glow at the power connection as normal. Try > using the mostly charged battery. Nothing. No sound, no boot, no blue > color behind the shortcut keys at the top of the keyboard as normal. I > admire my shiny new doorstop. > > Take it home, plug it in, fiddle around with no better results. Decide to > let it sit there with the battery in, plugged in, and maybe charge. It > sits there, silently, doing nothing, as expected. > > Suddenly (what else?) I hear a 'snapping' sound from the direction of the > laptop. I look at it and notice blue sparks (!) coming from under the > middle of the keyboard. Using my years of experience in this kind of > thing the first thing that flashes through my mind is "this isn't good." > I unplug the unit. I continue to admire my shiny (and now dangerous) new > doorstop. > > With nothing to lose (expired warranty) I decide to locate that HP manual > shortcut I archived long ago. Surprisingly, I actually find it! I do > have some experience with electronic equipment, mostly in coin operated > arcade equipment, and in my many years of experience I learned that > sparking was usually a sign of something bad happening with electronic > circuitry. So, I decide to remove the keyboard and see just how many > crispy resistors, transistors, board traces, etc. I can find. Don't know > exactly what I will do when I find the burned parts, but I'm sure they're > there. > > I remove the keyboard and the first thing I do is turn it over and inspect > the bottom. Sure enough, on the clear plastic barrier sheet there is some > 'smoky' looking residue right in the middle, as expected. I look at the > now exposed chassis of the laptop and notice there are only a few small > openings in it exposing the assorted parts inside. There IS a board under > the small rectangular opening in the chassis. I inspect, expecting to > find *something* burned. What I find is -nothing unusual. No burns, no > crispy critter smell, nothing. Well, SOMETHING burned! Sparks don't > appear out of nowhere. > > So, I do the only things I can do. I reseat anything that can be > reseated, I use compressed air (hot breath, attempting not to spit on it) > to clear any microscopic debris, and then brush any accessible surfaces > with a soft brush. I notice nothing loose, no debris, no bit of errant > solder, no dust bunnies, no rodent droppings, no spiders, not even any > Cheeto crumbs or cat hairs. (Now the last IS surprising, my apartment has > cat hair EVERYWHERE, despite my best efforts to keep it under control.) > > So, to make a long story even more boring than you imagined possible, I > buttoned the thing up, plugged it in (while shielding my eyes) and waited > for the expected small explosion, or at least an interesting light show. > > Nothing. > > I push the power button, it starts as if nothing had ever happened. It's > worked perfectly for three months now. > > All I can imagine is that some kind of conductive debris shorted > *something* and when I fiddled around inside I dislodged it. What is > surprising about the incident is that the short was bad enough to cause > sparking, and yet nothing got cooked. > > Anyone else have this kind of experience with a laptop? > > Alan > > |
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