Assuming a post 2005 laptop, using Explorer 7.0 and XP, what's the order of
importance for surfing speed?

CPU
RAM
Hard drive speed
Video card: integrated, non-integrated
Video card: speed/ pipelines
Video card: memory
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Your connection to the 'net is what will be the limiting factor, all the
hardware will easily keep up.


"RP" <pryorityy@mung.net> wrote in message
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> Assuming a post 2005 laptop, using Explorer 7.0 and XP, what's the order
> of importance for surfing speed?
>
> CPU
> RAM
> Hard drive speed
> Video card: integrated, non-integrated
> Video card: speed/ pipelines
> Video card: memory
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
>

So on the same broadband line, a celeron with 512 ram and integrated video
will load pages at the same speed as a core2duo with integrated video and 2
gig of ram?

"Val" <vmanes@NOSPAMrap.midco.net> wrote in message
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> ?????????????????????
> Your connection to the 'net is what will be the limiting factor, all the
> hardware will easily keep up.
>
>
> "RP" <pryorityy@mung.net> wrote in message
> news:dafd5$465650e8$1860cd6f$9609@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> Assuming a post 2005 laptop, using Explorer 7.0 and XP, what's the order
>> of importance for surfing speed?
>>
>> CPU
>> RAM
>> Hard drive speed
>> Video card: integrated, non-integrated
>> Video card: speed/ pipelines
>> Video card: memory
>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
>>
>
>

In general, yes. Granted, a large, complex page might be rendered a bit
faster on the Core2Duo, but graphics processing is more likely the
bottleneck on the machine.



"RP" <pryorityy@mung.net> wrote in message
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> So on the same broadband line, a celeron with 512 ram and integrated video
> will load pages at the same speed as a core2duo with integrated video and
> 2 gig of ram?
>
> "Val" <vmanes@NOSPAMrap.midco.net> wrote in message
> news:4MydnRO6ptCixMvbnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@midco.net...
>
>
>> ?????????????????????
>> Your connection to the 'net is what will be the limiting factor, all the
>> hardware will easily keep up.
>>
>>
>> "RP" <pryorityy@mung.net> wrote in message
>> news:dafd5$465650e8$1860cd6f$9609@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>> Assuming a post 2005 laptop, using Explorer 7.0 and XP, what's the order
>>> of importance for surfing speed?
>>>
>>> CPU
>>> RAM
>>> Hard drive speed
>>> Video card: integrated, non-integrated
>>> Video card: speed/ pipelines
>>> Video card: memory
>>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"RP" <pryorityy@mung.net> wrote in message
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> Assuming a post 2005 laptop, using Explorer 7.0 and XP, what's the order
> of importance for surfing speed?
>
> CPU
> RAM
> Hard drive speed
> Video card: integrated, non-integrated
> Video card: speed/ pipelines
> Video card: memory
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
G: None of the Above.

The speed of the pipe betwixt you and the internet is the limiting factor.

You are right.

It's AMAZING how MANY people think they need the fastest PC to surf the
internet and do email.

SMARTEN-UP people!
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"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "RP" <pryorityy@mung.net> wrote in message
> news:dafd5$465650e8$1860cd6f$9609@KNOLOGY.NET...
>> Assuming a post 2005 laptop, using Explorer 7.0 and XP, what's the
>> order of importance for surfing speed?
>>
>> CPU
>> RAM
>> Hard drive speed
>> Video card: integrated, non-integrated
>> Video card: speed/ pipelines
>> Video card: memory
>> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
> G: None of the Above.
>
> The speed of the pipe betwixt you and the internet is the limiting
> factor.
>

On May 24, 9:27 pm, "RP" <pryori...@mung.net> wrote:
> So on the same broadband line, a celeron with 512 ram and integrated video
> will load pages at the same speed as a core2duo with integrated video and 2
> gig of ram?
>
Down to about pentium 1, there's very little difference in page load
speed. There may be some difference with animations and video, and
some Java applets. But a pentium 2 will keep up with 99.9% of THOSE.

Only 486s and below have a noticeable lag in processing web jpgs.

"none" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> writes:

>It's AMAZING how MANY people think they need the fastest PC to surf the
>internet and do email.

It also depends a lot on what you're doing. My P3-700 desktop and
P3-600 laptop are fine for email and most web pages. But there is some
video decoding that they can't handle at full speed, particularly if the
decoding is done in the CPU and not the graphics card. In some cases,
the computer is the bottleneck and not the broadband connection. (I
have cable internet with a maximum downlink speed of 5 Mbps, not
particularly fast).

Dave

paulmd@efn.org wrote:
> On May 24, 9:27 pm, "RP" <pryori...@mung.net> wrote:
>> So on the same broadband line, a celeron with 512 ram and integrated video
>> will load pages at the same speed as a core2duo with integrated video and 2
>> gig of ram?
>>
> Down to about pentium 1, there's very little difference in page load
> speed. There may be some difference with animations and video, and
> some Java applets. But a pentium 2 will keep up with 99.9% of THOSE.
>
> Only 486s and below have a noticeable lag in processing web jpgs.
>
>
>
One thing though. If downloads are slow, some applications or plugins
tend to freeze. Noticeably with Acrobat, and IE is often freezing.

On May 27, 5:53 am, Barrabas <s...@home.org> wrote:
> pau...@efn.org wrote:
> > On May 24, 9:27 pm, "RP" <pryori...@mung.net> wrote:
> >> So on the same broadband line, a celeron with 512 ram and integrated video
> >> will load pages at the same speed as a core2duo with integrated video and 2
> >> gig of ram?
>
> > Down to about pentium 1, there's very little difference in page load
> > speed. There may be some difference with animations and video, and
> > some Java applets. But a pentium 2 will keep up with 99.9% of THOSE.
>
> > Only 486s and below have a noticeable lag in processing web jpgs.
>
> One thing though. If downloads are slow, some applications or plugins
> tend to freeze. Noticeably with Acrobat, and IE is often freezing.

A 486 can easily keep up with High speed internet downloads. Though
Acrobat is a non-starter. Maybe acrobat 4 will work...

I concur that Toolbars and plugins are a bad thing on a low spec
machine. And frankly are often not that great on a better machine.

On May 27, 8:53 pm, Barrabas <s...@home.org> wrote:
> pau...@efn.org wrote:
> > On May 24, 9:27 pm, "RP" <pryori...@mung.net> wrote:
> >> So on the same broadband line, a celeron with 512 ram and integrated video
> >> will load pages at the same speed as a core2duo with integrated video and 2
> >> gig of ram?
>
> > Down to about pentium 1, there's very little difference in page load
> > speed. There may be some difference with animations and video, and
> > some Java applets. But a pentium 2 will keep up with 99.9% of THOSE.
>
> > Only 486s and below have a noticeable lag in processing web jpgs.
>
> One thing though. If downloads are slow, some applications or plugins
> tend to freeze. Noticeably with Acrobat, and IE is often freezing.

Now as this issue had discussed acrobat this reminds me of some
peculiarity which I noticed something just lately. There are some
huge files that I can't open nor finish downloading there will be a
pop up notice that there is not enough memory in my PC. One thing that
I don't understand what does this mean...is this something to do with
the RAM or the HDD when my laptops are well endowed. Is there anybody
here knowledgeable regarding this issue that can bring light to this
acrobat Reader peculiarity...? TIA.

Roy wrote:
> On May 27, 8:53 pm, Barrabas <s...@home.org> wrote:
>> pau...@efn.org wrote:
>>> On May 24, 9:27 pm, "RP" <pryori...@mung.net> wrote:
>>>> So on the same broadband line, a celeron with 512 ram and integrated video
>>>> will load pages at the same speed as a core2duo with integrated video and 2
>>>> gig of ram?
>>> Down to about pentium 1, there's very little difference in page load
>>> speed. There may be some difference with animations and video, and
>>> some Java applets. But a pentium 2 will keep up with 99.9% of THOSE.
>>> Only 486s and below have a noticeable lag in processing web jpgs.
>> One thing though. If downloads are slow, some applications or plugins
>> tend to freeze. Noticeably with Acrobat, and IE is often freezing.
>
> Now as this issue had discussed acrobat this reminds me of some
> peculiarity which I noticed something just lately. There are some
> huge files that I can't open nor finish downloading there will be a
> pop up notice that there is not enough memory in my PC. One thing that
> I don't understand what does this mean...is this something to do with
> the RAM or the HDD when my laptops are well endowed. Is there anybody
> here knowledgeable regarding this issue that can bring light to this
> acrobat Reader peculiarity...? TIA.
>

Hi Roy,

There is actually a 3rd type of memory that you rarely hear
talked about except by programmers . . . that is the
'stack'. You could have a gigabyte of RAM physically
available, but if you run out of stack space, you will get
an out of memory error.

In Windows, the total 'stack' space allowed is 60,000B. That
right, bytes not kilobytes.

One of the major causes of stack over-flow occurs when the
programmer nests to many recursive routines. The second most
common problem is when they lose tracks of object handles.

I'd like to say that after 30+ years of programming that I
don't make those mistakes . . . unfortunately, because we
want fancier and faster applications, the need for nested
recursive routines is common, so yes I push-the-envelope,
and every once in a while I have a client complain about out
of memory errors. Then when I give them the new version of
the database, they complain that it is not as fast as the
old version.

This article gives a little insight into how the 60,000B
stack size can adversely affect high speed processing;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 .

Ciao . . . C.Joseph

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