I just received a Dell Inspiron 1505 today. Since this is my first
laptop, i'm not familiar with the battery charging procedure. I looked
through all the manuals and nowhere did it explain how long to charge
the battery for the first time.As soon as i plugged in the charger it
showed a green light. Does that indidcate the battery already has a
full charge? I don't want to overcharge it. Also, should i take the
battery out of the laptop if i'm not using it, say for a couple of
days? Is there a way to charge it out of the laptop, like with an
external adaptor? Thanks.

I went to the Dell site and found the info i needed but now i have
another question. I wanted to check the battery charge status by going
to the control panel but when i turned on the computer for the first
time, it prompted me to set up the computer first. It was too late so i
hit the power button but the computer wouldn't turn off. Is this
because i didn't go through the set up process? I just took the battery
out, but i want to make sure there isn't anything wrong with the power
button.

On Jan 23, 9:14 pm, "shareyourknowle...********.com"
<shareyourknowle...********.com> wrote:
> I just received a Dell Inspiron 1505 today. Since this is my first
> laptop, i'm not familiar with the battery charging procedure. I looked
> through all the manuals and nowhere did it explain how long to charge
> the battery for the first time.As soon as i plugged in the charger it
> showed a green light. Does that indidcate the battery already has a
> full charge? I don't want to overcharge it. Also, should i take the
> battery out of the laptop if i'm not using it, say for a couple of
> days? Is there a way to charge it out of the laptop, like with an
> external adaptor? Thanks.

<shareyourknowledge********.com> wrote in message
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>I just received a Dell Inspiron 1505 today. Since this is my first
> laptop, i'm not familiar with the battery charging procedure. I looked
> through all the manuals and nowhere did it explain how long to charge
> the battery for the first time.As soon as i plugged in the charger it
> showed a green light. Does that indidcate the battery already has a
> full charge? I don't want to overcharge it. Also, should i take the
> battery out of the laptop if i'm not using it, say for a couple of
> days? Is there a way to charge it out of the laptop, like with an
> external adaptor? Thanks.
>

The light is most probably the charge light. Charge the battery until the
light goes out. It is then adviseable to leave it for one additional hour.
Charge circuits vary on this last point, but it will do no harm. You won't
overcharge the battery - just as well - they explode when overcharged.
People will tell you to charge it for 24 hours, but with a Lithium-ion
battery, there is no point and it should be impossible anyway.

Take the battery out if you are not intending to use it for a few days and,
*most importantly*, take the battery out if you are going to ue AC power and
are not charging the battery as well.

So you think that it's better to remove the battery while not unsing
the laptop on battery mode for several days right ?

On 24 jan, 08:48, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> <shareyourknowle...********.com> wrote in messagenews:1169615684.205478.288500@l53g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com...
>
> >I just received a Dell Inspiron 1505 today. Since this is my first
> > laptop, i'm not familiar with the battery charging procedure. I looked
> > through all the manuals and nowhere did it explain how long to charge
> > the battery for the first time.As soon as i plugged in the charger it
> > showed a green light. Does that indidcate the battery already has a
> > full charge? I don't want to overcharge it. Also, should i take the
> > battery out of the laptop if i'm not using it, say for a couple of
> > days? Is there a way to charge it out of the laptop, like with an
> > external adaptor? Thanks.The light is most probably the charge light. Charge the battery until the
> light goes out. It is then adviseable to leave it for one additional hour.
> Charge circuits vary on this last point, but it will do no harm. You won't
> overcharge the battery - just as well - they explode when overcharged.
> People will tell you to charge it for 24 hours, but with a Lithium-ion
> battery, there is no point and it should be impossible anyway.
>
> Take the battery out if you are not intending to use it for a few days and,
> *most importantly*, take the battery out if you are going to ue AC power and
> are not charging the battery as well.

<darthounet******.com> wrote in message
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So you think that it's better to remove the battery while not unsing
the laptop on battery mode for several days right ?

-----------------------

The laptop takes a small but definite current all the time a battery is
inserted. Normally this does not cause a problem other than to
unnecessarily use up the battery's limited charge/discharge life. The main
problem arises if the few days turns into a few weeks, and the battery
becomes totally discharged (i.e. below its maximum discharge point).
Batteries in this condition become hazardous to charge and in all modern
batteries there is a mechanism to permanently disable the battery from being
charged.

On 24 jan, 08:48, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> <shareyourknowle...********.com> wrote in
> messagenews:1169615684.205478.288500@l53g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com...
>
> >I just received a Dell Inspiron 1505 today. Since this is my first
> > laptop, i'm not familiar with the battery charging procedure. I looked
> > through all the manuals and nowhere did it explain how long to charge
> > the battery for the first time.As soon as i plugged in the charger it
> > showed a green light. Does that indidcate the battery already has a
> > full charge? I don't want to overcharge it. Also, should i take the
> > battery out of the laptop if i'm not using it, say for a couple of
> > days? Is there a way to charge it out of the laptop, like with an
> > external adaptor? Thanks.The light is most probably the charge light.
> > Charge the battery until the
> light goes out. It is then adviseable to leave it for one additional
> hour.
> Charge circuits vary on this last point, but it will do no harm. You
> won't
> overcharge the battery - just as well - they explode when overcharged.
> People will tell you to charge it for 24 hours, but with a Lithium-ion
> battery, there is no point and it should be impossible anyway.
>
> Take the battery out if you are not intending to use it for a few days
> and,
> *most importantly*, take the battery out if you are going to ue AC power
> and
> are not charging the battery as well.

M.I.5¾ wrote:
>
> The laptop takes a small but definite current all the time a battery is
> inserted. Normally this does not cause a problem other than to
> unnecessarily use up the battery's limited charge/discharge life. The main
> problem arises if the few days turns into a few weeks, and the battery
> becomes totally discharged (i.e. below its maximum discharge point).
> Batteries in this condition become hazardous to charge and in all modern
> batteries there is a mechanism to permanently disable the battery from being
> charged.
>
Which is also totally meaningless information as there is also a
mechanism to stop thebattery from being discharged too much and that
cuts in first.

Ian Singer
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"Ian Singer" <iansinger@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> M.I.5¾ wrote:
>>
>> The laptop takes a small but definite current all the time a battery is
>> inserted. Normally this does not cause a problem other than to
>> unnecessarily use up the battery's limited charge/discharge life. The
>> main problem arises if the few days turns into a few weeks, and the
>> battery becomes totally discharged (i.e. below its maximum discharge
>> point). Batteries in this condition become hazardous to charge and in all
>> modern batteries there is a mechanism to permanently disable the battery
>> from being charged.
>>
> Which is also totally meaningless information as there is also a mechanism
> to stop thebattery from being discharged too much and that cuts in first.

That is the theory. Although present in many (if not most) laptop
batteries, it is not universal. In any event such a mechanism, even once it
has operated, will not prevent a battery self discharging below its maximum
discharge point. The point is thus still relevant.

It's definitely better to remove the battery when running on AC for
extended periods of time (days). Actual experience is that leaving the
battery in a plugged in laptop constantly damages the battery and over a
period of 6 months to 2 years (varies by model) will destroy the
battery. Many of the laptop makers deny that this happens, but real
world experience is pretty convincing (although it varies by model).
It's not clear what the culprit is but some combination of heat from the
laptop and overcharging is most likely. If the laptop is really a
desktop replacement and will rarely travel, get a small UPS (300 to
350VA is adequate) and plug the charger into that to prevent data loss
if the power fails while you are using the laptop.

As to the other issues you mentioned, frankly, you are worrying too much
about things that really don't matter and are not all that significant.
Setup the computer first, you can check the battery charge later.


darthounet******.com wrote:
> So you think that it's better to remove the battery while not unsing
> the laptop on battery mode for several days right ?
>
> On 24 jan, 08:48, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>> <shareyourknowle...********.com> wrote in messagenews:1169615684.205478.288500@l53g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com...
>>
>>> I just received a Dell Inspiron 1505 today. Since this is my first
>>> laptop, i'm not familiar with the battery charging procedure. I looked
>>> through all the manuals and nowhere did it explain how long to charge
>>> the battery for the first time.As soon as i plugged in the charger it
>>> showed a green light. Does that indidcate the battery already has a
>>> full charge? I don't want to overcharge it. Also, should i take the
>>> battery out of the laptop if i'm not using it, say for a couple of
>>> days? Is there a way to charge it out of the laptop, like with an
>>> external adaptor? Thanks.The light is most probably the charge light. Charge the battery until the
>> light goes out. It is then adviseable to leave it for one additional hour.
>> Charge circuits vary on this last point, but it will do no harm. You won't
>> overcharge the battery - just as well - they explode when overcharged.
>> People will tell you to charge it for 24 hours, but with a Lithium-ion
>> battery, there is no point and it should be impossible anyway.
>>
>> Take the battery out if you are not intending to use it for a few days and,
>> *most importantly*, take the battery out if you are going to ue AC power and
>> are not charging the battery as well.
>

Ian, the real world evidence is very strong that leaving the battery in
a laptop that's plugged in all the time damages the battery. The real
world evidence on this point is overwhelming. The mechanism is
irrelevant. If you are not really using the battery (e.g. if you are
not traveling), and if you want the battery to last more than a couple
of years (and they can last a decade), removing the battery is good advice.


Ian Singer wrote:
> M.I.5¾ wrote:
>>
>> The laptop takes a small but definite current all the time a battery
>> is inserted. Normally this does not cause a problem other than to
>> unnecessarily use up the battery's limited charge/discharge life. The
>> main problem arises if the few days turns into a few weeks, and the
>> battery becomes totally discharged (i.e. below its maximum discharge
>> point). Batteries in this condition become hazardous to charge and in
>> all modern batteries there is a mechanism to permanently disable the
>> battery from being charged.
>>
> Which is also totally meaningless information as there is also a
> mechanism to stop thebattery from being discharged too much and that
> cuts in first.
>
> Ian Singer

I have a Dell d600 which maily sits by the telly so i can work in the evenings but still be with my family, been through a few batteries with it, and without doubt if you do not want to keep buying new ones you need to completly recycle often, I normally unplug from the power once a week and let it run down all the way, defo best way to condition the battery, but if you dont want to do this and like to keep buying new batteries then here is the link to batterytrader for a new rechargeable Dell laptop battery