Went to bestbuy today. Saw they did not have a single laptop computer on
the floor. Reason is they sent them all back to have vista installed and
they will return with vista installed on the day it's to be sold.

Sales guy said they had approx 140 they had to ship back to where it's
going to be Installed and then ship them all back in less then one week.

Kevin Weaver wrote:
> Went to bestbuy today. Saw they did not have a single laptop computer on
> the floor. Reason is they sent them all back to have vista installed and
> they will return with vista installed on the day it's to be sold.
>
> Sales guy said they had approx 140 they had to ship back to where it's
> going to be Installed and then ship them all back in less then one week.
Just means all buyers will end buying laptops with Vista installed even
if they could not care less, and that they will face the corresponding
hassles. Microsoft does a very good job of strong arm selling an OS
which, AFAIK, brings only cosmetics demands on hardware, and a few
improvements in the Network handling areas. The rest means more hassles
than anything.

I would suggest you run to stores still carrying XP systems and offer to
save them the trouble of shipping back and forth. You might get a good
deal in staying away from the an OS which brings no real advantage to
users ... and save yourself lots of headaches, if experience is any
indication.

Best regards

--
John Doue

I don't see how anyone can make that statement unless they have hands on
with the final product which I take it you do by your reply.

By this I take it we should just go back to a form of DOS correct ?
I think It was better to have some form of xp Installed then get the
Vista upgrade and Install It if you want. This way you have 2 ways to go
not one.

John Doue wrote:
> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>> Went to bestbuy today. Saw they did not have a single laptop computer
>> on the floor. Reason is they sent them all back to have vista
>> installed and they will return with vista installed on the day it's to
>> be sold.
>>
>> Sales guy said they had approx 140 they had to ship back to where it's
>> going to be Installed and then ship them all back in less then one week.
> Just means all buyers will end buying laptops with Vista installed even
> if they could not care less, and that they will face the corresponding
> hassles. Microsoft does a very good job of strong arm selling an OS
> which, AFAIK, brings only cosmetics demands on hardware, and a few
> improvements in the Network handling areas. The rest means more hassles
> than anything.
>
> I would suggest you run to stores still carrying XP systems and offer to
> save them the trouble of shipping back and forth. You might get a good
> deal in staying away from the an OS which brings no real advantage to
> users ... and save yourself lots of headaches, if experience is any
> indication.
>
> Best regards
>

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:TSUth.4239$O02.2988@newssvr11.news.prodigy.ne t...
>I don't see how anyone can make that statement unless they have hands on
>with the final product which I take it you do by your reply.
>

I have had hands on with Vista since before Christmas. I can largely concur
with his post - it is an excellent tool for slowing a PC down. In fact we
have just restored the XP build to the PCs on which it was being trialled.

> By this I take it we should just go back to a form of DOS correct ?
> I think It was better to have some form of xp Installed then get the Vista
> upgrade and Install It if you want. This way you have 2 ways to go not
> one.
>
> John Doue wrote:
>> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>>> Went to bestbuy today. Saw they did not have a single laptop computer on
>>> the floor. Reason is they sent them all back to have vista installed and
>>> they will return with vista installed on the day it's to be sold.
>>>
>>> Sales guy said they had approx 140 they had to ship back to where it's
>>> going to be Installed and then ship them all back in less then one week.
>> Just means all buyers will end buying laptops with Vista installed even
>> if they could not care less, and that they will face the corresponding
>> hassles. Microsoft does a very good job of strong arm selling an OS
>> which, AFAIK, brings only cosmetics demands on hardware, and a few
>> improvements in the Network handling areas. The rest means more hassles
>> than anything.
>>
>> I would suggest you run to stores still carrying XP systems and offer to
>> save them the trouble of shipping back and forth. You might get a good
>> deal in staying away from the an OS which brings no real advantage to
>> users ... and save yourself lots of headaches, if experience is any
>> indication.
>>
>> Best regards
>>

M.I.5¾ wrote:
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:TSUth.4239$O02.2988@newssvr11.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> I don't see how anyone can make that statement unless they have hands on
>> with the final product which I take it you do by your reply.
>>
>
> I have had hands on with Vista since before Christmas. I can largely concur
> with his post - it is an excellent tool for slowing a PC down. In fact we
> have just restored the XP build to the PCs on which it was being trialled.
>
>> By this I take it we should just go back to a form of DOS correct ?
>> I think It was better to have some form of xp Installed then get the Vista
>> upgrade and Install It if you want. This way you have 2 ways to go not
>> one.
>>
>> John Doue wrote:
>>> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>>>> Went to bestbuy today. Saw they did not have a single laptop computer on
>>>> the floor. Reason is they sent them all back to have vista installed and
>>>> they will return with vista installed on the day it's to be sold.
>>>>
>>>> Sales guy said they had approx 140 they had to ship back to where it's
>>>> going to be Installed and then ship them all back in less then one week.
>>> Just means all buyers will end buying laptops with Vista installed even
>>> if they could not care less, and that they will face the corresponding
>>> hassles. Microsoft does a very good job of strong arm selling an OS
>>> which, AFAIK, brings only cosmetics demands on hardware, and a few
>>> improvements in the Network handling areas. The rest means more hassles
>>> than anything.
>>>
>>> I would suggest you run to stores still carrying XP systems and offer to
>>> save them the trouble of shipping back and forth. You might get a good
>>> deal in staying away from the an OS which brings no real advantage to
>>> users ... and save yourself lots of headaches, if experience is any
>>> indication.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>
>
Thanks, it saves me the trouble to answer Kevin's post.

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John Doue