It would be very handy* to have a laptop that consists of just a
display, keyboard, touchpad and speakers, that can be used with an
external CPU (on a motherboard and in a case, of course). Is such a
thing available anywhere?
* A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
(I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)

Handy for what? No use on the road and no better than a desktop at
home.

Kal

On 8 Nov 2006 12:26:27 -0800, ranjit_mathews******.com wrote:

>It would be very handy* to have a laptop that consists of just a
>display, keyboard, touchpad and speakers, that can be used with an
>external CPU (on a motherboard and in a case, of course). Is such a
>thing available anywhere?
>* A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
>speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
>the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
>(I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
>laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)

I'll have what you are smoking.................
<ranjit_mathews******.com> wrote in message
news:1163017587.921685.230830@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> It would be very handy* to have a laptop that consists of just a
> display, keyboard, touchpad and speakers, that can be used with an
> external CPU (on a motherboard and in a case, of course). Is such a
> thing available anywhere?
> * A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
> speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
> the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
> (I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
> laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)
>

ranjit_mathews******.com wrote:
> It would be very handy* to have a laptop that consists of just a
> display, keyboard, touchpad and speakers, that can be used with an
> external CPU (on a motherboard and in a case, of course).

And how would the laptop communicate as it would be a dumb device and
what would the point be as it would have to be hard wired to the desktop.


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ranjit_mathews******.com wrote in comp.sys.laptops:

> * A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
> speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
> the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
> (I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
> laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)


Great idea. It makes room for another invention: a computer with everything
integrated (speakers, display, keyboard, pointing device etc.) you can carry
with you wherever you go and even without electricity, because it operates
on a battery. And with nearly the same memory, speed and storage
configuration like a desktop.

Like, like .... like a.... like a laptop?

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In article <Xns9875EB5DA6F11ceebeechesterstartco@213.75.12.16 4>,
CeeBee <ceebee@novalidmail> wrote:
>ranjit_mathews******.com wrote in comp.sys.laptops:
>
>> * A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
>> speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
>> the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
>> (I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
>> laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)
>
>
>Great idea. It makes room for another invention: a computer with everything
>integrated (speakers, display, keyboard, pointing device etc.) you can carry
>with you wherever you go and even without electricity, because it operates
>on a battery. And with nearly the same memory, speed and storage
>configuration like a desktop.
>
>Like, like .... like a.... like a laptop?


You miss the point..

Although this would appeal to fairly small market, the concept makes
sense. Basicly he wants a keyboard/video/mouse/speakers packaged as
a laptop sized package, while still having the desktop CPU with it's
associated expansion capabilities, and configuration options.

I can think of a number of places where such a setup would be handy,
such as server maintainance in a colo facility, or some audiovisual
presentation environments, or other limited space applications.

If done right, the laptop portion should connect to the CPU with a
single cable, with a breakout at the CPU end, with only a pair of
headphone/microphone jacks on the laptop, and a pair of USB ports.
Controls for a remotely mounted KVM switch could be an option.

This would make the laptop portion fairly light, as there would be
no batteries, power supplies, or disks in the unit.



The server market has a similar type of setup, except that it is built
into a rack drawer for installation in a server rack, and costs an
arm and a leg.

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I think I will light up another one....................................I
think they already have something like
that it is call a NOTEBOOK>
"Bob Vaughan" <techie@tantivy.tantivy.net> wrote in message
news:eito77$raq$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> In article <Xns9875EB5DA6F11ceebeechesterstartco@213.75.12.16 4>,
> CeeBee <ceebee@novalidmail> wrote:
>>ranjit_mathews******.com wrote in comp.sys.laptops:
>>
>>> * A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
>>> speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
>>> the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
>>> (I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
>>> laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)
>>
>>
>>Great idea. It makes room for another invention: a computer with
>>everything
>>integrated (speakers, display, keyboard, pointing device etc.) you can
>>carry
>>with you wherever you go and even without electricity, because it operates
>>on a battery. And with nearly the same memory, speed and storage
>>configuration like a desktop.
>>
>>Like, like .... like a.... like a laptop?
>
>
> You miss the point..
>
> Although this would appeal to fairly small market, the concept makes
> sense. Basicly he wants a keyboard/video/mouse/speakers packaged as
> a laptop sized package, while still having the desktop CPU with it's
> associated expansion capabilities, and configuration options.
>
> I can think of a number of places where such a setup would be handy,
> such as server maintainance in a colo facility, or some audiovisual
> presentation environments, or other limited space applications.
>
> If done right, the laptop portion should connect to the CPU with a
> single cable, with a breakout at the CPU end, with only a pair of
> headphone/microphone jacks on the laptop, and a pair of USB ports.
> Controls for a remotely mounted KVM switch could be an option.
>
> This would make the laptop portion fairly light, as there would be
> no batteries, power supplies, or disks in the unit.
>
>
>
> The server market has a similar type of setup, except that it is built
> into a rack drawer for installation in a server rack, and costs an
> arm and a leg.
>
> --
> -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine --
> Bob Vaughan | techie @ tantivy.net |
> | P.O. Box 19792, Stanford, Ca 94309 |
> -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? --

In article <pO2dnVU4WMGHXs_YnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@comcast.com>,
BigJim <woody10277********.com> wrote:
>I think I will light up another one....................................I
>think they already have something like
>that it is call a NOTEBOOK>


Since you are obviously too stoned to understand the concept, why
don't you go away and smoke another one, and quit making a fool of yourself..


If you feel like joining the class, why don't you ponder the following
concepts:

Hint: show me a laptop that has multiple processors, >4gb ram, and a
1TB RAID5 array.

Now, can you grasp the concept that somebody might need that kind of
computing power, yet want the control interface to be in a laptop-like
format?


Hint: show me a laptop that has 4 independent CPU's controlled from
the same laptop keyboard/video/mouse via a KVM switch.

Now, can you grasp that someone might want that level of control, with
a laptop style control interface?


Do you understand now?

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:26:27 -0800, ranjit_mathews wrote:

> It would be very handy* to have a laptop that consists of just a
> display, keyboard, touchpad and speakers, that can be used with an
> external CPU (on a motherboard and in a case, of course). Is such a
> thing available anywhere?
> * A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
> speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
> the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
> (I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
> laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)

I think you are looking for something along the lines of this:

1U 15" LCD/KEYBOARD DRAWER
http://www.aberdeeninc.com/ABCATG/lcm100.htm

or

1U 15" KVM/LCD/KEYBOARD DRAWER
http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/LCM101.htm


We use a few of these KVM/LCD/keyboard type drawers with our
multiple web servers (not these exact draws, but similar ones). They
save a great deal of space in the server racks, and store easily when not
in usage.

Hope this helps.

what is there to understand it is oblivious that this is a pipe dream.
get it, pipe dream.
"Bob Vaughan" <techie@tantivy.tantivy.net> wrote in message
news:eiv6tg$err$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> In article <pO2dnVU4WMGHXs_YnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> BigJim <woody10277********.com> wrote:
>>I think I will light up another one....................................I
>>think they already have something like
>>that it is call a NOTEBOOK>
>
>
> Since you are obviously too stoned to understand the concept, why
> don't you go away and smoke another one, and quit making a fool of
> yourself..
>
>
> If you feel like joining the class, why don't you ponder the following
> concepts:
>
> Hint: show me a laptop that has multiple processors, >4gb ram, and a
> 1TB RAID5 array.
>
> Now, can you grasp the concept that somebody might need that kind of
> computing power, yet want the control interface to be in a laptop-like
> format?
>
>
> Hint: show me a laptop that has 4 independent CPU's controlled from
> the same laptop keyboard/video/mouse via a KVM switch.
>
> Now, can you grasp that someone might want that level of control, with
> a laptop style control interface?
>
>
> Do you understand now?
>
> --
> -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine --
> Bob Vaughan | techie @ tantivy.net |
> | P.O. Box 19792, Stanford, Ca 94309 |
> -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? --

Ian Singer wrote:
> ranjit_mathews******.com wrote:
> > It would be very handy* to have a laptop that consists of just a
> > display, keyboard, touchpad and speakers, that can be used with an
> > external CPU (on a motherboard and in a case, of course).
>
> And how would the laptop communicate as it would be a dumb device

It would communicate only with the CPU.

> and what would the point be

It would save me the trouble of lugging a 21" display, a keyboard, a
mouse and speakers with me, which I can effectively do only if I'm
driving where I'm going. If they were integrated into a laptop-like
package, it could be packed in a suitcase. A CPU would be required, to
complement a "dumb laptop" but a CPU in a micro-ATX case (like the
Antec Minuet II) can be packed quite easily too. ... and for many
projects, it can be used with a CPU provided by another party.

> as it would have to be hard wired to the desktop.

It's much easier to get permission to install one's own display,
keyboard, mouse and speakers at a customer site than to install one's
own computer there. The last customer I did a project for had an
onerous process for allowing one's own computer on the premises, which
process included guaranteeing that the computer (even if a laptop)
would not enter any competitor's premises, so if I carried a laptop
with a CPU, I'd have to carry a separate laptop for each customer and
wouldn't be able to start using it for a project till the completion of
a process for allowing it on the premises. Hence, a display, keyboard,
mouse and speakers would be more mobile if they came without a CPU.

As for using the customer's equipment, they generally give hand-me down
equipment to people working on temporary projects. Would you like to
try a source merge with 3 source windows and 1 target window on a
9"x12" inch display or pound away at a keyboard with poor ergonomics 12
hours a day for 3 weeks?

James T. wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:26:27 -0800, ranjit_mathews wrote:
>
> > It would be very handy* to have a laptop that consists of just a
> > display, keyboard, touchpad and speakers, that can be used with an
> > external CPU (on a motherboard and in a case, of course). Is such a
> > thing available anywhere?
> > * A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
> > speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
> > the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
> > (I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
> > laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)
>
> I think you are looking for something along the lines of this:
>
> 1U 15" LCD/KEYBOARD DRAWER
> http://www.aberdeeninc.com/ABCATG/lcm100.htm
>
> or
>
> 1U 15" KVM/LCD/KEYBOARD DRAWER
> http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/LCM101.htm
>
>
> We use a few of these KVM/LCD/keyboard type drawers with our
> multiple web servers (not these exact draws, but similar ones). They
> save a great deal of space in the server racks, and store easily when not
> in usage.
>
> Hope this helps.

Very useful for servers; I'd like the same thing for desktops, except
that I also want audio and do not want any data I/O ports on the device
(that would make customers too nervous about the security of their
data). Ideally, I'd like to pack a suitcase with a dual/quad processor
and 8/16 GB RAM in an Antec Minuet II case as well as a 20+ inch
display, keyboard, mouse, speakers, protecting the devices by packing
clothes around them. For all these to all fit into a suitcase,
everything other than the CPU would ideally be packaged in the form
factor of a "thin and lite laptop"; I don't care if it's called a
mobile KVAM (keyboard, video, audio, mouse) rather than a "dumb
laptop". The mobile KVAM would shuttle, in a tote bag, between a
desktop computer at the customer's office and the PC (the one in the
Antec Minuet II) case in my hotel room/suite.

CeeBee wrote:
> ranjit_mathews******.com wrote in comp.sys.laptops:
>
> > * A CPU-less laptop would beat the hell out of lugging around separate
> > speakers, display, keyboard and mouse and a laptop-less CPU would beat
> > the tar out of memory and storage configurations available for laptops.
> > (I don't mind that the combination of the two - CPU-less laptop and
> > laptop-less CPU - can't be used while on the road.)

Where did I say it had to be usable on the road? A portable is just
meant to be luggable, not usable on the road except, perhaps, in an RV.

> Great idea. It makes room for another invention: a computer with everything
> integrated (speakers, display, keyboard, pointing device etc.) you can carry
> with you wherever you go and even without electricity, because it operates
> on a battery. And with nearly the same memory, speed and storage
> configuration like a desktop.
>
> Like, like .... like a.... like a laptop?

Where can one buy an x86 laptop with a quad core processor, 20"
display, 8GB RAM, dual 10KRPM HDs and speakers for within $1000 of the
price of an equivalently outfitted desktop?

ranjit_mathews******.com wrote:

>
> Where can one buy an x86 laptop with a quad core processor, 20"
> display, 8GB RAM, dual 10KRPM HDs and speakers for within $1000 of the
> price of an equivalently outfitted desktop?
>

Where can one buy one, period? Can I use it on an airline or does it
draw too many watts?

Ian Singer

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Ian Singer wrote:
> ranjit_mathews******.com wrote:
>
> > Where can one buy an x86 laptop with a quad core processor, 20"
> > display, 8GB RAM, dual 10KRPM HDs and speakers for within $1000 of the
> > price of an equivalently outfitted desktop?
>
> Where can one buy one, period?

One can't. So, I had to lug a desktop, 21" display, mouse and keyboard
on my last business trip.

> Can I use it on an airline or does it
> draw too many watts?

I couldn't use the above equipment on an airline. So, why would I
expect to be able to use its replacement on an airline?