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Old 01-19-2007, 07:17 PM
yeswade@gmail.com
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How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

Hello - I have an old Dell laptop with an 11G HD that I want to
upgrade. I purchased a new compatible 80G HD and I have copied my 11G
HD using Norton Ghost 10. fyi - I connected an external 200G HD via USB
to my Dell laptop, and I used that as the destination for my copy. I am
running winXP.

I have the instructions on how to remove my old 11G HD and install my
new 80G HD - that part looks pretty do-able and I am confident and I
can do it on my own.

My question is - how do I get the copy of my old 11G HD from my
external 200G HD to the new 80G HD in my laptop?

Just to let you know - I am not tech smart beyond the basics - so if my
solution involves complicated instructions once I first re-boot my
laptop, I ask that you please take this into consideration.

Also one other thing - I have Googled this topic/answer, and searched
Norton's site - but am not finding a solution, so this is my last hope
before I head out to some computer repair place - so I am crossing my
fingers that someone else has run into this problem and has a solution.

Thanks.

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Old 01-19-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

<yeswade******.com> wrote in message
news:1161709145.866066.110850@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello - I have an old Dell laptop with an 11G HD that I want to
> upgrade. I purchased a new compatible 80G HD and I have copied my 11G
> HD using Norton Ghost 10. fyi - I connected an external 200G HD via USB
> to my Dell laptop, and I used that as the destination for my copy. I am
> running winXP.
>
> I have the instructions on how to remove my old 11G HD and install my
> new 80G HD - that part looks pretty do-able and I am confident and I
> can do it on my own.
>
> My question is - how do I get the copy of my old 11G HD from my
> external 200G HD to the new 80G HD in my laptop?
>
> Just to let you know - I am not tech smart beyond the basics - so if my
> solution involves complicated instructions once I first re-boot my
> laptop, I ask that you please take this into consideration.
>
> Also one other thing - I have Googled this topic/answer, and searched
> Norton's site - but am not finding a solution, so this is my last hope
> before I head out to some computer repair place - so I am crossing my
> fingers that someone else has run into this problem and has a solution.
>
> Thanks.


When you say you copied your 11gb harddrive, do you mean you created an
image of it on the 200gb usb drive? I use Ghost 2003, which may come with
Ghost 10. I have a bootable floppy and cdrom with USB drivers on it. That
way I can boot with either and create an image of my disk which then can be
restored to a replacement.


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Barry Watzman
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Re: How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

It would have been better to have not used the 200g external hard drive,
and to instead have connected the 80g replacement to the computer (via
USB). Then, I THINK, there is a "disk-to-disk" option in Ghost, whereby
the contents of the current drive are copied directly to the new drive
(not as an image file, but as "live" contents). I know that this
capability existed in Drive Image (the PowerQuest product that Symantec
purchased and whose technology got incorporated into the most recent
versions of Ghost). I'm not absolutely certain if it exists in Ghost 10
for external USB drives (it may exist for IDE drives but not USB drives).

Alternatively, you may be able to install the 80 gig drive into the
laptop, connect the 200g drive, boot from the Ghost CD, and copy the
image file on the 200g drive to the now-internal 80 gig drive. MAYBE.

Another possibility is that you connect both the 200g and the 80g drive
to another computer (desktop) and run Ghost on that computer to restore
the image file on the 200g drive to the 80g drive.

I have not used Ghost 10 specifically, so I'm not certain of it's exact
capabilities, particularly as regards supporting USB drives when you
boot from it's CD (e.g. with Windows not running).

Note that recent versions of Ghost require that a computer running an OS
that was restored with Ghost have Ghost installed on the computer ....
the restored image is "time bombed" and will stop working if you don't.
Since Ghost uses Product Activation, this means actually buying a copy
of Ghost for each computer running an OS derived from a Ghost image.
However, if you had Ghost installed on the 11MB drive, then this
requirement is effectively already met.


yeswade******.com wrote:

> Hello - I have an old Dell laptop with an 11G HD that I want to
> upgrade. I purchased a new compatible 80G HD and I have copied my 11G
> HD using Norton Ghost 10. fyi - I connected an external 200G HD via USB
> to my Dell laptop, and I used that as the destination for my copy. I am
> running winXP.
>
> I have the instructions on how to remove my old 11G HD and install my
> new 80G HD - that part looks pretty do-able and I am confident and I
> can do it on my own.
>
> My question is - how do I get the copy of my old 11G HD from my
> external 200G HD to the new 80G HD in my laptop?
>
> Just to let you know - I am not tech smart beyond the basics - so if my
> solution involves complicated instructions once I first re-boot my
> laptop, I ask that you please take this into consideration.
>
> Also one other thing - I have Googled this topic/answer, and searched
> Norton's site - but am not finding a solution, so this is my last hope
> before I head out to some computer repair place - so I am crossing my
> fingers that someone else has run into this problem and has a solution.
>
> Thanks.
>

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Old 01-19-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

yeswade******.com wrote:
> Hello - I have an old Dell laptop with an 11G HD that I want to
> upgrade. I purchased a new compatible 80G HD and I have copied my 11G
> HD using Norton Ghost 10. fyi - I connected an external 200G HD via USB
> to my Dell laptop, and I used that as the destination for my copy. I am
> running winXP.
>
> I have the instructions on how to remove my old 11G HD and install my
> new 80G HD - that part looks pretty do-able and I am confident and I
> can do it on my own.
>
> My question is - how do I get the copy of my old 11G HD from my
> external 200G HD to the new 80G HD in my laptop?


I used this product:
"http://apricorn.com/product_detail.php?type=reg&id=1023" to upgrade my
notebook drive. It boots the system from the CD-ROM drive, transfers the
contents of the existing drive, over USB to the new drive, then you swap
drives. It was $40 at Fry's. Very straightforward. It's a "Ghost-like"
program, but not wrecked like Ghost has been.

Your problem is that you need to not Ghost the 11GB over USB to the
external 200GB, you need to Ghost it over to the new drive. You can
Ghost the image over to the new notebook drive from the external 200GB
drive but you still need an external notebook drive connection somewhere.

You could buy a converter that temporarily lets you use the new 80GB
hard drive in the enclosure for your 200GB external drive. I was
considering doing this instead of using the Apricorn product, but I
wanted the notebook drive enclosure anyway.

Honestly, your best bet is to buy the Apricorn or similar product. If
you don't want it later, to use your 11 GB drive as an external drive,
then sell it on craigslist.org for 1/2 of what you paid for it. Be sure
to get the version for "normal" IDE drives, not the SATA version.
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Re: How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

All store-bought drives I've bought have had a CD with them.
Did you try it ?
Power off. Leave/put the original drive in the PC.
Add the new drive as drive D ( put the jumper on the SLAVE pins - see
your paperwork.)
Boot the CD ( change your default from HDD to CD temporarily)
That should get you to a menu ( Seagate/ Maxtor etc)
Select COPY Drive

pick the original, then
pick the new drive.
Get a coffee and return in 10 minutes. Copy done
Power off.
Remove C drive. Install new drive and move jumper now to MASTER ( or
remove it depending on the brand - again, see your paperwork.) Chnage
default back to booting HDD.

If you do want to use the original 11gb drive as a data drive, make IT
now the slave (move jumper)
If you do want 2 HDDs put them both on the same cable and put the CD on
the other cable.
( If you have no need for it, keep it as-is in case your new drive
develops problems. That way you can still boot windows to get to your
data )


Bobb


<yeswade******.com> wrote in message
news:1161709145.866066.110850@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello - I have an old Dell laptop with an 11G HD that I want to
> upgrade. I purchased a new compatible 80G HD and I have copied my 11G
> HD using Norton Ghost 10. fyi - I connected an external 200G HD via
> USB
> to my Dell laptop, and I used that as the destination for my copy. I
> am
> running winXP.
>
> I have the instructions on how to remove my old 11G HD and install my
> new 80G HD - that part looks pretty do-able and I am confident and I
> can do it on my own.
>
> My question is - how do I get the copy of my old 11G HD from my
> external 200G HD to the new 80G HD in my laptop?
>
> Just to let you know - I am not tech smart beyond the basics - so if
> my
> solution involves complicated instructions once I first re-boot my
> laptop, I ask that you please take this into consideration.
>
> Also one other thing - I have Googled this topic/answer, and searched
> Norton's site - but am not finding a solution, so this is my last hope
> before I head out to some computer repair place - so I am crossing my
> fingers that someone else has run into this problem and has a
> solution.
>
> Thanks.
>


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- Bobb -
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Re: How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

After I clicked SEND, I noticed "LAPTOPS" newsgroup!
I just gave myself a dope slap.



"- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
news:GJGdnSYqFahBJ6LYnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> All store-bought drives I've bought have had a CD with them.
> Did you try it ?
> Power off. Leave/put the original drive in the PC.
> Add the new drive as drive D ( put the jumper on the SLAVE pins - see
> your paperwork.)
> Boot the CD ( change your default from HDD to CD temporarily)
> That should get you to a menu ( Seagate/ Maxtor etc)
> Select COPY Drive
>
> pick the original, then
> pick the new drive.
> Get a coffee and return in 10 minutes. Copy done
> Power off.
> Remove C drive. Install new drive and move jumper now to MASTER ( or
> remove it depending on the brand - again, see your paperwork.) Chnage
> default back to booting HDD.
>
> If you do want to use the original 11gb drive as a data drive, make IT
> now the slave (move jumper)
> If you do want 2 HDDs put them both on the same cable and put the CD
> on the other cable.
> ( If you have no need for it, keep it as-is in case your new drive
> develops problems. That way you can still boot windows to get to your
> data )
>
>
> Bobb
>
>
> <yeswade******.com> wrote in message
> news:1161709145.866066.110850@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hello - I have an old Dell laptop with an 11G HD that I want to
>> upgrade. I purchased a new compatible 80G HD and I have copied my 11G
>> HD using Norton Ghost 10. fyi - I connected an external 200G HD via
>> USB
>> to my Dell laptop, and I used that as the destination for my copy. I
>> am
>> running winXP.
>>
>> I have the instructions on how to remove my old 11G HD and install my
>> new 80G HD - that part looks pretty do-able and I am confident and I
>> can do it on my own.
>>
>> My question is - how do I get the copy of my old 11G HD from my
>> external 200G HD to the new 80G HD in my laptop?
>>
>> Just to let you know - I am not tech smart beyond the basics - so if
>> my
>> solution involves complicated instructions once I first re-boot my
>> laptop, I ask that you please take this into consideration.
>>
>> Also one other thing - I have Googled this topic/answer, and searched
>> Norton's site - but am not finding a solution, so this is my last
>> hope
>> before I head out to some computer repair place - so I am crossing my
>> fingers that someone else has run into this problem and has a
>> solution.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>

>


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Old 01-19-2007, 07:18 PM
Barry Watzman
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Re: How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

Re: "All store-bought drives I've bought have had a CD with them"

True for 3.5" drives, but not true for 2.5" (laptop) drives.

This question is about, indeed this newsgroup is about, laptops. You
CAN'T add a second internal drive.


- Bobb - wrote:

> All store-bought drives I've bought have had a CD with them.
> Did you try it ?
> Power off. Leave/put the original drive in the PC.
> Add the new drive as drive D ( put the jumper on the SLAVE pins - see
> your paperwork.)
> Boot the CD ( change your default from HDD to CD temporarily)
> That should get you to a menu ( Seagate/ Maxtor etc)
> Select COPY Drive
>
> pick the original, then
> pick the new drive.
> Get a coffee and return in 10 minutes. Copy done
> Power off.
> Remove C drive. Install new drive and move jumper now to MASTER ( or
> remove it depending on the brand - again, see your paperwork.) Chnage
> default back to booting HDD.
>
> If you do want to use the original 11gb drive as a data drive, make IT
> now the slave (move jumper)
> If you do want 2 HDDs put them both on the same cable and put the CD on
> the other cable.
> ( If you have no need for it, keep it as-is in case your new drive
> develops problems. That way you can still boot windows to get to your
> data )
>
>
> Bobb
>
>
> <yeswade******.com> wrote in message
> news:1161709145.866066.110850@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>> Hello - I have an old Dell laptop with an 11G HD that I want to
>> upgrade. I purchased a new compatible 80G HD and I have copied my 11G
>> HD using Norton Ghost 10. fyi - I connected an external 200G HD via USB
>> to my Dell laptop, and I used that as the destination for my copy. I am
>> running winXP.
>>
>> I have the instructions on how to remove my old 11G HD and install my
>> new 80G HD - that part looks pretty do-able and I am confident and I
>> can do it on my own.
>>
>> My question is - how do I get the copy of my old 11G HD from my
>> external 200G HD to the new 80G HD in my laptop?
>>
>> Just to let you know - I am not tech smart beyond the basics - so if my
>> solution involves complicated instructions once I first re-boot my
>> laptop, I ask that you please take this into consideration.
>>
>> Also one other thing - I have Googled this topic/answer, and searched
>> Norton's site - but am not finding a solution, so this is my last hope
>> before I head out to some computer repair place - so I am crossing my
>> fingers that someone else has run into this problem and has a solution.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>

>

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Old 01-19-2007, 07:18 PM
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Barry Watzman wrote:
> Re: "All store-bought drives I've bought have had a CD with them"
>
> True for 3.5" drives, but not true for 2.5" (laptop) drives.
>
> This question is about, indeed this newsgroup is about, laptops. You
> CAN'T add a second internal drive.


Actually you often can. On many laptops you can get a drive-bay adapter,
remove the optical drive, and install a second hard drive.

CMS Products sells the bays with drives, not sure if you can buy just
the bay and add your own hard drive.

"http://cmsproducts.com/detail.aspx?ID=690"

They include software for cloning drives.
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Re: How to upgrade to larger HD / using Norton Ghost 10

Ok, you can do this on some laptops. I wouldn't say many, however; in
fact, I think that the day of interchangeable drive bays has past it's
peak. You can't find a single laptop with those in most retail stores
today. Only a relatively few laptops still have them.



SMS wrote:

> Barry Watzman wrote:
>
>> Re: "All store-bought drives I've bought have had a CD with them"
>>
>> True for 3.5" drives, but not true for 2.5" (laptop) drives.
>>
>> This question is about, indeed this newsgroup is about, laptops. You
>> CAN'T add a second internal drive.

>
>
> Actually you often can. On many laptops you can get a drive-bay adapter,
> remove the optical drive, and install a second hard drive.
>
> CMS Products sells the bays with drives, not sure if you can buy just
> the bay and add your own hard drive.
>
> "http://cmsproducts.com/detail.aspx?ID=690"
>
> They include software for cloning drives.

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Barry Watzman wrote:

>
> This question is about, indeed this newsgroup is about, laptops. You
> CAN'T add a second internal drive.
>

Sure you can. In a selectabay caddy. Did it in my Portege 4000 and Tecra
9100

Ian Singer


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