I just recently got to use an Acer "Aspire" model of some sort which
had a very glossy, highly reflective screen. I found reflections from
lights and such in the room to be distracting. Then I see an ad for
the Apple "MacBook" which claims as a feature "a 13-inch glossy
widescreen display" .

What's the point of this? My old IBM R51 has a relatively
non-reflective screen and is more easily readable under similar
lighting conditions.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

This is a point of debate right now. The laptop makers seem to think
that the glossy screens are "better". Well, there are clearly
situations in which they are worse, and also situations in which
different users might judge them to be subjective either better or
worse. You pays your money and takes your choice, except that sometimes
you don't get a choice.


Bert Hyman wrote:

> I just recently got to use an Acer "Aspire" model of some sort which
> had a very glossy, highly reflective screen. I found reflections from
> lights and such in the room to be distracting. Then I see an ad for
> the Apple "MacBook" which claims as a feature "a 13-inch glossy
> widescreen display" .
>
> What's the point of this? My old IBM R51 has a relatively
> non-reflective screen and is more easily readable under similar
> lighting conditions.
>

Bert Hyman wrote:

>
> What's the point of this? My old IBM R51 has a relatively
> non-reflective screen and is more easily readable under similar
> lighting conditions.
>
> --


I would rather have a lappy with a glossy screen than having one with a
CLITORIS( trackpoint) in the keyboard( like most IBM and Lenovo
units) ...IMO much more distracting than a glossy screen!

roybasan******.com (Roy) wrote in
news:1160680865.895185.155770@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com:

> I would rather have a lappy with a glossy screen than having one
> with a CLITORIS( trackpoint) in the keyboard( like most IBM and
> Lenovo units) ...IMO much more distracting than a glossy screen!

Because you can't keep your hands off it?

Sounds like a personal problem.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

Bert Hyman wrote:

>
> Because you can't keep your hands off it?
>
> Sounds like a personal problem.
>

I think any rejoinder against a certain device can be considered a
personal problem ....glossy screen and trackpoints.....
For me a trackpoint is its like an appendix, .....not necessary, but a
glossy screen is more useful than a drab one

roybasan******.com (Roy) wrote in
news:1160681775.402261.63490@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> but a glossy screen is more useful than a drab one

How so? That's the point of my question, after all.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

Bert Hyman wrote:

> --
> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

Unless you watch movies often on your lappy you will not recognize the
benefit of a glossy screen

Bert Hyman wrote:
> roybasan******.com (Roy) wrote in
> news:1160681775.402261.63490@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>
> > but a glossy screen is more useful than a drab one
>
> How so? That's the point of my question, after all.
>

Unless you watch movies often on your lappy you will not recognize the
benefit of a glossy screen

Roy wrote:

> Unless you watch movies often on your lappy you will not recognize the
> benefit of a glossy screen

What _IS_ the benefit when you're watching a movie, though?

(This is not a loaded question. I really want to know why people like
glossy screens - I hate them).

<zwsdotcom******.com> wrote in message
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> Roy wrote:
>
>> Unless you watch movies often on your lappy you will not recognize
>> the benefit of a glossy screen
>
> What _IS_ the benefit when you're watching a movie, though?
>
> (This is not a loaded question. I really want to know why people like
> glossy screens - I hate them).

Huh? I have a similar question. I don't care if a screen is glossy or
not. It's just a screen and I still see everything just fine. I'm
nearsighted and I wear glasses. I don't know if that makes a difference?

--
Bill

BillW50 wrote:

> >> Unless you watch movies often on your lappy you will not recognize
> >> the benefit of a glossy screen
> >
> > What _IS_ the benefit when you're watching a movie, though?
> >
>
> Huh? I have a similar question. I don't care if a screen is glossy or

Glossy screens are horrible to use if there is spot ambient light (say,
sunshine). I can't understand why people buy them, which is why I asked
the question.

<zwsdotcom******.com> wrote in message
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>
> Roy wrote:
>
>> Unless you watch movies often on your lappy you will not recognize the
>> benefit of a glossy screen
>
> What _IS_ the benefit when you're watching a movie, though?
>
> (This is not a loaded question. I really want to know why people like
> glossy screens - I hate them).
>

Contrast ratio and sharpness. Any anti-reflective coating or matting finish
on a screen reduces both, because the screen on laptops are designed to use
less wattage. Laptops that are designed to be multimedia machines use
glossy screens to give the best picture quality, and it is assumed that they
will be used in areas where the ambient light can be controlled.

NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> <zwsdotcom******.com> wrote in message
> news:1160701620.489667.9210@i3g2000cwc.googlegroup s.com...
>
>>Roy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Unless you watch movies often on your lappy you will not recognize the
>>>benefit of a glossy screen
>>
>>What _IS_ the benefit when you're watching a movie, though?
>>
>>(This is not a loaded question. I really want to know why people like
>>glossy screens - I hate them).
>>
>
>
> Contrast ratio and sharpness. Any anti-reflective coating or matting finish
> on a screen reduces both, because the screen on laptops are designed to use
> less wattage. Laptops that are designed to be multimedia machines use
> glossy screens to give the best picture quality, and it is assumed that they
> will be used in areas where the ambient light can be controlled.
>
>
>
You know what they say when one ... ASS UME? At least, the clitoris
mentionned in another post is removable, and that's what I did on my
R51. Try removing the gloss from your glossy screen ... Problably a
cheap trick to make users think they have a video card instead of the
bad video Intel integrates!

--
John Doue

NoNoBadDog! wrote:
> <zwsdotcom******.com> wrote in message

>
> Contrast ratio and sharpness. Any anti-reflective coating or matting finish
> on a screen reduces both, because the screen on laptops are designed to use
> less wattage. Laptops that are designed to be multimedia machines use
> glossy screens to give the best picture quality, and it is assumed that they
> will be used in areas where the ambient light can be controlled.

Your spot on mate...That is what I noticed....Movies looks really
good if your glossy screen has higher resolution such 1920 x 1200
like mine.....
Movies looks so sharp ....and enjoyable to watch...

"Roy" <roybasan******.com> wrote in message
news:1160680865.895185.155770@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com
> Bert Hyman wrote:
>
>> What's the point of this? My old IBM R51 has a relatively
>> non-reflective screen and is more easily readable under similar
>> lighting conditions.
>
> I would rather have a lappy with a glossy screen than having one with
> a CLITORIS( trackpoint) in the keyboard( like most IBM and Lenovo
> units) ...IMO much more distracting than a glossy screen!

Toshiba used to use trackpoint controllers. And people who had
complained got an generic answer back. Something about they did a study
and found that a trackpoint was the best one to use on a laptop and they
are not going to change. Funny thing is they don't use them anymore, but
rather use touchpads nowadays. lol

I still have two laptops with a trackpoint. I don't mind them too much.
In fact, sometimes I prefer them. I actually liked trackballs too (all
they are is an upside down mouse). Maybe I am one of the few, eh?

--
Bill